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Enlightened-One wrote: ↑02 Dec 2019, 05:30

oogiebe wrote: ↑29 Nov 2019, 17:00
I'm hearing Ruiz is closer to 260 for the fight.

I'd be pleased with that. He has recently and regularly stated that he didn't want to lose much weight for the rematch, with his target weight loss being 10lbs.

PUGLET wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 15:58 I picked Ruiz in the first fight..... he’s gonna win by KNOCKOUT again. Simply put, regardless of athletic talent or gifts, RUIZ is the superior fighter and boxer. In terms of experience and ring craft, AJ is essentially a novice in comparison to Ruiz. ONLY in the heavyweight division does this type of scenario take place.... Do you think that after less than 20 amateur fights does AJ become a National champion, let alone an Olympic Gold medallist in any division other than Heavyweight?.... NOT A FREAKING CHANCE.
I’m NOT saying that AJ wasn’t a decent, exceptionally strong athlete that “played” very well at “BOXING”. Now that he’s been knocked out and essentially quit.... he has ZERO CHANCE. Further to which, he has slimmed down and done body weight calisthenics to COMPLETELY eliminate the one advantage he had... which was EXPLOSIVE, natural athletic power, which translated to a “heavy handed” kind of knockout power. Something which only translates to KO power in the heavyweight division. Lighter weight fighters have to cut weight and therefore get in better shape and have more reliable chins than heavyweights, (at least at the elite levels of the sport.)
So, essentially, AJ’s coaches have listened to the criticisms of boxing media and pundits... and done EXACTLY the opposite of what they needed to do to in order for him to have a chance at winning the rematch. As a result, AJ will be slimmer, less powerful AND SLOWER as a result of his “refined” strength and conditioning work. All of this was done in terms of them hoping that he either wouldn’t gas or would suddenly have some natural ability to suddenly not be as robotic or actually have some natural flow to his punches or “actual” natural fighting ability. Only a time machine creates that scenario.
As soon as Ruiz feels how less strong and slower AJ feels to him.... he’s gonna walk him down and walk right through him, AJ is going to take a career-ending beating and be knocked out in rounds 5 or 6. It’s gonna be UGLY.... you heard it here first. Just like last time.

Normally, I would’ve kept my analysis to myself (cuz i’m trying to move up the PTBF scoreboard), but I’m STRONGLY considering starting a YouTube channel with fight predictions and analysis and working at conveying my thoughts without being too overly offensive. So tired of listening to semi brain-dead Mayweathers and punch drunk ex-fighters give insights and predictions about fights. If you pay attention, there are 3/4 fairly well-respected coaches whom ARE ALWAYS WRONG. IT IS MIND-BOGGLNG.

PUGLET wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 15:58 I picked Ruiz in the first fight..... he’s gonna win by KNOCKOUT again. Simply put, regardless of athletic talent or gifts, RUIZ is the superior fighter and boxer. In terms of experience and ring craft, AJ is essentially a novice in comparison to Ruiz. ONLY in the heavyweight division does this type of scenario take place.... Do you think that after less than 20 amateur fights does AJ become a National champion, let alone an Olympic Gold medallist in any division other than Heavyweight?.... NOT A FREAKING CHANCE.
I’m NOT saying that AJ wasn’t a decent, exceptionally strong athlete that “played” very well at “BOXING”. Now that he’s been knocked out and essentially quit.... he has ZERO CHANCE. Further to which, he has slimmed down and done body weight calisthenics to COMPLETELY eliminate the one advantage he had... which was EXPLOSIVE, natural athletic power, which translated to a “heavy handed” kind of knockout power. Something which only translates to KO power in the heavyweight division. Lighter weight fighters have to cut weight and therefore get in better shape and have more reliable chins than heavyweights, (at least at the elite levels of the sport.)
So, essentially, AJ’s coaches have listened to the criticisms of boxing media and pundits... and done EXACTLY the opposite of what they needed to do to in order for him to have a chance at winning the rematch. As a result, AJ will be slimmer, less powerful AND SLOWER as a result of his “refined” strength and conditioning work. All of this was done in terms of them hoping that he either wouldn’t gas or would suddenly have some natural ability to suddenly not be as robotic or actually have some natural flow to his punches or “actual” natural fighting ability. Only a time machine creates that scenario.
As soon as Ruiz feels how less strong and slower AJ feels to him.... he’s gonna walk him down and walk right through him, AJ is going to take a career-ending beating and be knocked out in rounds 5 or 6. It’s gonna be UGLY.... you heard it here first. Just like last time.

Normally, I would’ve kept my analysis to myself (cuz i’m trying to move up the PTBF scoreboard), but I’m STRONGLY considering starting a YouTube channel with fight predictions and analysis and working at conveying my thoughts without being too overly offensive. So tired of listening to semi brain-dead Mayweathers and punch drunk ex-fighters give insights and predictions about fights. If you pay attention, there are 3/4 fairly well-respected coaches whom ARE ALWAYS WRONG. IT IS MIND-BOGGLNG.

snake33 wrote: ↑04 Dec 2019, 16:11 There seems to be a lot of drama going around.
Does two rounds suddenly make Joshua a bum ?
He was the greatest thing since sliced toast and then he had a bad night.
Parker beat Ruiz, Joshua beat Parker, Ruiz beat Joshua, sooooo
Unless Joshua is f*cked in the head, he will probably win.

oogiebe wrote: ↑04 Dec 2019, 17:17 He wasn't the greatest thing since sliced bread to all fans, and maybe not most. He's far from shite, that's for sure.

KiwiRider wrote: ↑04 Dec 2019, 17:40

oogiebe wrote: ↑04 Dec 2019, 17:17 He wasn't the greatest thing since sliced bread to all fans, and maybe not most. He's far from shite, that's for sure.

He was to HW fans for a time at least.
Fury was out after a stinker win against Wlad.
Wilder was trolling the railyards for tomato cans.
And Joshua was knocking out decent opposition, raking in massive crowds, trying to unify. Then he put a definitive end to the Klitschko era. Around that time he was the best thing since sliced bread to HW fans at least.
Anyhow, I don't mind unsloced bread, at least you can vary your slice thickness depending on purpose.

oogiebe wrote: ↑04 Dec 2019, 17:42

KiwiRider wrote: ↑04 Dec 2019, 17:40
He was to HW fans for a time at least.
Fury was out after a stinker win against Wlad.
Wilder was trolling the railyards for tomato cans.
And Joshua was knocking out decent opposition, raking in massive crowds, trying to unify. Then he put a definitive end to the Klitschko era. Around that time he was the best thing since sliced bread to HW fans at least.
Anyhow, I don't mind unsloced bread, at least you can vary your slice thickness depending on purpose.

I said not all fans. Including HW fans. UK fans yes. The rest of the world was 50/50.
LOL on bread preferance!

PUGLET wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 15:58 I picked Ruiz in the first fight..... he’s gonna win by KNOCKOUT again. Simply put, regardless of athletic talent or gifts, RUIZ is the superior fighter and boxer. In terms of experience and ring craft, AJ is essentially a novice in comparison to Ruiz. ONLY in the heavyweight division does this type of scenario take place.... Do you think that after less than 20 amateur fights does AJ become a National champion, let alone an Olympic Gold medallist in any division other than Heavyweight?.... NOT A FREAKING CHANCE.
I’m NOT saying that AJ wasn’t a decent, exceptionally strong athlete that “played” very well at “BOXING”. Now that he’s been knocked out and essentially quit.... he has ZERO CHANCE. Further to which, he has slimmed down and done body weight calisthenics to COMPLETELY eliminate the one advantage he had... which was EXPLOSIVE, natural athletic power, which translated to a “heavy handed” kind of knockout power. Something which only translates to KO power in the heavyweight division. Lighter weight fighters have to cut weight and therefore get in better shape and have more reliable chins than heavyweights, (at least at the elite levels of the sport.)
So, essentially, AJ’s coaches have listened to the criticisms of boxing media and pundits... and done EXACTLY the opposite of what they needed to do to in order for him to have a chance at winning the rematch. As a result, AJ will be slimmer, less powerful AND SLOWER as a result of his “refined” strength and conditioning work. All of this was done in terms of them hoping that he either wouldn’t gas or would suddenly have some natural ability to suddenly not be as robotic or actually have some natural flow to his punches or “actual” natural fighting ability. Only a time machine creates that scenario.
As soon as Ruiz feels how less strong and slower AJ feels to him.... he’s gonna walk him down and walk right through him, AJ is going to take a career-ending beating and be knocked out in rounds 5 or 6. It’s gonna be UGLY.... you heard it here first. Just like last time.

Normally, I would’ve kept my analysis to myself (cuz i’m trying to move up the PTBF scoreboard), but I’m STRONGLY considering starting a YouTube channel with fight predictions and analysis and working at conveying my thoughts without being too overly offensive. So tired of listening to semi brain-dead Mayweathers and punch drunk ex-fighters give insights and predictions about fights. If you pay attention, there are 3/4 fairly well-respected coaches whom ARE ALWAYS WRONG. IT IS MIND-BOGGLNG.

Quantrax wrote: ↑05 Dec 2019, 10:09 A lot of UK fans also fancied Fury over AJ, especially as AJ got more and more muscular. I don't think there's ever been a time when AJ was thought of as Superman.