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It proves everythin g you said to be wrong you fornicating clown


"Socio economic factors matter the most" is the consensus on every single one of these tests,EVERY SINGLE ONE, and obviously that is going to matter the most amongs African Americans because there is still obvious systemic racism in America, you have not brought up one single point that supports your argument other than substance level shit that is debunked whenever anybody looks slightly deeper at the data, read the fornicating study you idiot

My reaction is "kneejerk?" You're peddling fornicating lies mate

Lol, again a reading comprehension failure. At nowhere do I say socioeconomic factors don't matter or even that they aren't the most important. Still doesn't eliminate the fact that there are clear and observable results in performance on congitive performance measures (unfortunetly this isn't a lie mate) and it doesn't show other factors are irrelevant too, just like when it comes to athletic performance (which ppl seem not to be triggered by lol)

Some genius

Brother, seriously, all you have to do is cite ONE study, a proper study, that proves cognitive advantages for some races over others with no extraneous circumstances taken into account, your response was literally "i dunno"

go ahead son, find one

It's all there to see. Very very clear and long documented differences in cognitive performance. Note I said cognitive performance, just like athletic performance. I didn't say these tests are the same as intelligence or that the differences must be innate. These groups performed tested which engaged them in certain questions of complex though , and some groups routinely outperform others.

Nice denial mate

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 17:57 Still doesn't eliminate the fact that there are clear and observable results in cognitive performance (not lies as much as you may wish they were)

Based on WHAT?! nothing you have mentioned has showed any such thing, they have ALL pointed to socio economic factors being them ost important thing, and NONE of it to do with race specifically, I'm actually struggling to understand what your point is here mate, give me some evidence to work with

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 18:00 It's all there to see. Very very clear and long documented differences in cognitive performance. Note I said cognitive performance, just like athletic performance. I didn't say these tests are the same as intelligence or that the differences must be innate. These groups performed tested which engaged them in certain questions of complex though , and some groups routinely outperform others.

Nice denial mate

Can't name a single one...

But what is intelligence ,, Is it the ability to score high on a IQ test ,, the ability to know more about the life cycle of an imaginary virus on mars , tHE ABILITY TO STRIP A CAR ENGINE DOWN AND REBUILD IT .

I myself i have said on here in the past , i only had a limited education , whilst others were at school i was wagging it and running around playing on the canals , , at 13 when other kids were tucked up in bed getting a good nights BO BO'S I was running around on factory roofs knicking the lead , did'nt have the conventional childhood , at 14 i was'nt at school studying for my masters degree in what i considered shite , i was at work .

Now on the odd occasion on here ,and another forum or two , some have alluded to my poor spelling, generally people who i suppose are more intellegent , or presume they are , , BUT like i said i never had a proper formal schooling after the age of 13 , i learnt basics , Now long division i could'nt do it then or now , teacher said whats 265 divided by 10 , i got frustrated , angry and embarressed because i could'nt work it out .. YET when we knicked lead of a roof and got a older boy usually one of my cousins to weigh it in , by christ i could work out what my share was in a second .

Fast forward a lot of years , and i look back on life and i've travelled the world run my own buisness , employed at one stage up to 25-27 people , and retrired has a self funded retireee at 10 years younger than the pension age , and i still can't do long division , , but what i could do was read upside down , a trick i learnt from when i was in meettings and would read what was in front of them without them knowing ,,, what i did have was the ability to coax out of someone , what they were willing to pay and if i was in with a chance of getting the job , without them knowing . I could and still can meet , analyise , and read a personality within seconds , , I could and still can , walk in a gym watch for a few days and say to a trainer that kid over there is gonna give up , that one will fight to the death , and very rarely be wrong .

Intellegence is not all about marks on a peice of paper and who can score 10 out of 10 , I'm relativly dumb about a lot of things , purely because i have no interest in them , but i can read personalities like graduates read a book , i can't rebuild a car engine , but i'm smart enough to not try ,

I think intellegence is the ability to understand what you are what you got , and work with it , a smart man KNOWS his LIMITATIONS , and works around them

Lol read much genius? I said throughout that many factors could be involved and nowhere do I say these results must be explained by innate differences. But it;s just denial to act like there aren't easily observable differences between groups on these measures, I guess whatever makes you sleep easier at night mate

Basically you are admitting these different outcomes exist, you are just trying to explain them using a certain type of factor, one which I have fully admitted may be very important .

But as long as it's a certain group running faster it's all good

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 18:02 Lol read much genius? I said throughout that many factors could be involved and nowhere do I say these results must be explained by innate differences. But it;s just denial to act like there aren't easily observable differences between groups on these measures, I guess whatever makes you sleep easier at night mate

Easily observable differences that have all been proven to be socioeconomic related, I guess it's true, there are none so blind as those who refuse to see...you can't name a single credible source, not a single one, yet you are just determined to believe, based on tests that are rigged against those of a poorer background, as was found by those who studied the tests

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 18:02 Lol read much genius? I said throughout that many factors could be involved and nowhere do I say these results must be explained by innate differences. But it;s just denial to act like there aren't easily observable differences between groups on these measures, I guess whatever makes you sleep easier at night mate

Basically you are admitting these different outcomes exist, you are just trying to explain them using a certain type of factor, one which I have fully admitted may be very important .

But as long as it's a certain group running faster it's all good

No I'm not trying to explain them, it's a fact, every single legitimate study has shown it, you can't show one, you say it "may be important" it is objectively THE MOST IMPORTANT, fornicate, this guy talks about reading comprehension. You have confirmation bias and obviously this is the horse you're gonna ride on, have at it Maggie

GreenLightning wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 18:05

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 18:02 Lol read much genius? I said throughout that many factors could be involved and nowhere do I say these results must be explained by innate differences. But it;s just denial to act like there aren't easily observable differences between groups on these measures, I guess whatever makes you sleep easier at night mate

Easily observable differences that have all been proven to be socioeconomic related, I guess it's true, there are none so blind as those who refuse to see...you can't name a single credible source, not a single one, yet you are just determined to believe, based on tests that are rigged against those of a poorer background, as was found by those who studied the tests

You obviously aren't a genius as claim if you still are failing to grasp my point , and I haven't once said that there is some inborn racial difference.

Further, even if they are ALL socioeconomic related you are putting forth a reason to explain something which clearly exists (the obvious differences in results), which isn't remotely the same as proving it doesn't exist. Uhhh, me GreenLightning, me soo smart

Basically, it's been

Me: X exists

GL: moan moan , racism! You're a liar, X is because of Y


Um, ya bruh, it may well be, still means X exists. You are basically affirming its existence by trying to give a cause for it.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 18:08

GreenLightning wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 18:05


Easily observable differences that have all been proven to be socioeconomic related, I guess it's true, there are none so blind as those who refuse to see...you can't name a single credible source, not a single one, yet you are just determined to believe, based on tests that are rigged against those of a poorer background, as was found by those who studied the tests

You obviously aren't a genius as claim if you still are failing to grasp my point , and I haven't once said that there is some inborn racial difference.

Further, even if they are ALL socioeconomic related you are putting forth a reason to explain something which clearly exists (the obvious differences in results), which isn't remotely the same as proving it doesn't exist. Uhhh, me GreenLightning, me soo smart

Jesus Christ, mr logic, there are differences in results, nobody denied that, READ THE STUDY to see why.

So you don't believe there are inborn racial differences in intelligence then, is that what you're saying?

Then what the hell are you banging on about mate if you don't deny that?

I've just been saying we can clearly observe these divergent results, so what are the factors behind them and why can't we have a free discussion about them?

You are case and point about how snow flakey people get about it, even if they seem to have zero problem discussing physical and athletic differences.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 18:10 Basically, it's been

Me: X exists

GL: moan moan , racism! You're a liar, X is because of Y


Um, ya bruh, it may well be, still means X exists. You are basically affirming its existence by trying to give a cause for it.

No you fornicating dick, you literally stated there are "clear cognitive differences" between the races, but the studies show that's not the ca,e the results come from the nature and circumstances of the tests.... It's not that you won't grasp that, you just don't want to. This is basic level stuff

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 18:13 Then what the hell are you banging on about mate if you don't deny that?

I've just been saying we can clearly observe these divergent results, so what are the factors behind them and why can't we have a free discussion about them?

You are case and point about how snow flakey people get about it, even if they seem to have zero problem discussing physical and athletic differences.

Ah the free exchange of ideas, we don;t need to "discuss" it mate, we all know it, it's there in countless fornicating studies for christs sake,

You boys should get a room.

Yep, clear differences in cognitive performance. Hell, maybe there is just something that causes certain people to panic when they take a test and perform not to their full potential more so than others. Doesn't mean they aren't as 'smart' or whatever, but it's undeniable that on certain measures that test critical/logical reasoning etc the actual performance isn't at the same level. Performance.

Still waiting for one single study from you to prove those clear cognitive differences mate

At least I roused him from his hiatus in style

GreenLightning wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 18:17 Still waiting for one single study from you to prove those clear cognitive differences mate

Lol, weeeaaak bruh

There are loads and loads of different tests which test various types of thought that show clear differences in performance.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 18:16 Yep, clear differences in cognitive performance. Hell, maybe there is just something that causes certain people to panic when they take a test and perform not to their full potential more so than others. Doesn't mean they aren't as 'smart' or whatever, but it's undeniable that on certain measures that test critical/logical reasoning etc the actual performance isn't at the same level. Performance.

We are going in circles here, it's due to circumstance, if you don't believe there is any difference between the races, why did you A) both say and imply that there were and B) ignore all of the actual evidence that says otherwise, instead of manipulating data on Law School predictor tests that are so bad they are being phased out of existence?

I'm not manipulating anything, I haven't lied about anything, and there are undeniably clear racial differences on results obtained on many measures of logical and critical reasoning and other things that can be thought of cognitive performance tests.

These differences, as I've said many many times, may not be inborn at all and may stem from socioeconomic factors more than anything.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 18:18

GreenLightning wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 18:17 Still waiting for one single study from you to prove those clear cognitive differences mate

Lol, weeeaaak bruh

There are loads and loads of different tests which test various types of thought that show clear differences in performance.

And there are loads of studies that show why that is the case, none of which say it is because one race has less cognitive ability than the other, not ONE, prove me wrong please, give me SOMETHING to work with other than tests that when studied in depth prove the exact opposite of what you were saying, then backed away from, then seem to be saying again

Whats the argument about I got confused too many big words being thrown about