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Posted: **16 Feb 2020, 10:12**

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑16 Feb 2020, 04:33 And he apparently defied those odds to become an iconic boxer

To be fair, joking aside. He is pretty iconic.
He is the ultimate one punch knock out artist. I'm not sure we'll see his like again.

And he is the most googled boxer in the world!

Posted: **16 Feb 2020, 11:50**

Finkel wrote: ↑16 Feb 2020, 10:12
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑16 Feb 2020, 04:33 And he apparently defied those odds to become an iconic boxer
To be fair, joking aside. He is pretty iconic.
He is the ultimate one punch knock out artist. I'm not sure we'll see his like again.

And he is the most googled boxer in the world!

Yes, he's always been underated. You should have seen the abuse he was shipping here on this very forum!

Yet, gradually ever so gradually he's won more and more fans over, a bit like GGG, and now is seen as heavyweight no 1 by many. No one is calling him a mere slugger now are they?

If he can catch Fury, he can catch anyone. I'm pretty sure the Fury camp don't want to risk replaying the first fight again, that was just too close to oblivion for them.

Hence the reason for them gambling on the Davidson exit in favour of Sugar Hill.

Like Golovkin though, his age (34) means he doesn't have very long left at his peak. The Fury camp are banking on Wilder not being any better than he was in Dec 2018.

We'll soon find out if they're right.

Posted: **16 Feb 2020, 13:05**

Thomastearns wrote: ↑16 Feb 2020, 11:50
Finkel wrote: ↑16 Feb 2020, 10:12

To be fair, joking aside. He is pretty iconic.
He is the ultimate one punch knock out artist. I'm not sure we'll see his like again.

And he is the most googled boxer in the world!
Yes, he's always been underated. You should have seen the abuse he was shipping here on this very forum!

Yet, gradually ever so gradually he's won more and more fans over, a bit like GGG, and now is seen as heavyweight no 1 by many. No one is calling him a mere slugger now are they?

If he can catch Fury, he can catch anyone. I'm pretty sure the Fury camp don't want to risk replaying the first fight again, that was just too close to oblivion for them.

Hence the reason for them gambling on the Davidson exit in favour of Sugar Hill.

Like Golovkin though, his age (34) means he doesn't have very long left at his peak. The Fury camp are banking on Wilder not being any better than he was in Dec 2018.

We'll soon find out if they're right.

I'll be honest I don't rate Wilder's resume at all, and I mean at all. And the avoidance of Whyte for however long really doesn't sit well with me either. But if he beats Fury he genuinely deserves the plaudits.

But, for me and I don't think I'm alone in saying this, neither Wilder or Fury is a legitimate number 1 until they beat Joshua. If Wilder beats Fury it's a massive step toward that.

Posted: **16 Feb 2020, 18:16**

I hope the guys get payed well and that the fight sells. Both guys have charisma and both have different personalities but the same character trait of being bamfs. Im edging at Fury, do also be siding with him. And I do like Wilder since been following him since he got that bronze medal in the olympics. Hate being a fan of both guys but Fury is my dude, only time I side against Wilder thou.
Both guys seem focused as hell and that makes me giggly like a schoolgirl.

Would like to see either in against AJ would be funny fights either way. Different build ups and i do think Fury is the bigger threat too him skillwise and Wilder can KO anyone.

The dream is too get one guy on top(that everyone agrees on again), who is the nr.1 guy counts for me. Both guys are top dogs as nr1 and 2. I put AJ at 3 right now, and below him for the moment Ruiz(focused Ruiz is a threat).

At least the purist ratingboarda will have a lineal champ again. Im going with Fury, but I never ever gonna count out Wilder in a fight. Since Wilder is Wilder. But, Fury is the sneakiest bastard since Ali among the heavyweights.

Posted: **21 Feb 2020, 15:03**

My prediction, based on my feeling, not on my knowledge - Wilder by KO/TKO. I suppose he will be able to catch Fury (one proper punch will be enough).

Posted: **21 Feb 2020, 15:54**

Finkel wrote: ↑16 Feb 2020, 10:12
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑16 Feb 2020, 04:33 And he apparently defied those odds to become an iconic boxer
To be fair, joking aside. He is pretty iconic.
He is the ultimate one punch knock out artist. I'm not sure we'll see his like again.

And he is the most googled boxer in the world!

whom ffs did he knock out clean with one punch? szplika jumped chin first into his fist, breazale, who else

Posted: **21 Feb 2020, 21:00**

Posted: **21 Feb 2020, 21:00**

6-4 baby

Posted: **21 Feb 2020, 21:03**

ValMar wrote: ↑21 Feb 2020, 15:03 My prediction, based on my feeling, not on my knowledge - Wilder by KO/TKO. I suppose he will be able to catch Fury (one proper punch will be enough).

Posters saying that Fury's 273 lbs is all muscle growth. All I know is that I put bets down after the weigh in on Wilder by KO.

Posted: **22 Feb 2020, 01:40**

oogiebe wrote: ↑21 Feb 2020, 21:03
ValMar wrote: ↑21 Feb 2020, 15:03 My prediction, based on my feeling, not on my knowledge - Wilder by KO/TKO. I suppose he will be able to catch Fury (one proper punch will be enough).
Posters saying that Fury's 273 lbs is all muscle growth. All I know is that I put bets down after the weigh in on Wilder by KO.

Fury looks in great shape. This isn't a Ruiz situation.

Wilder may still win but Fury certainly hasn't been raiding Ruiz's snicker collection.

Posted: **22 Feb 2020, 03:54**

I was going to bet fury but I’m back to not knowing wtf is going to happen again

Posted: **22 Feb 2020, 04:18**

oogiebe wrote: ↑21 Feb 2020, 21:03
ValMar wrote: ↑21 Feb 2020, 15:03 My prediction, based on my feeling, not on my knowledge - Wilder by KO/TKO. I suppose he will be able to catch Fury (one proper punch will be enough).
Posters saying that Fury's 273 lbs is all muscle growth. All I know is that I put bets down after the weigh in on Wilder by KO.

I mean its not like Fury was shredded so I dont know why does this change anything.

Posted: **22 Feb 2020, 04:48**

ewenhay wrote: ↑22 Feb 2020, 01:40
oogiebe wrote: ↑21 Feb 2020, 21:03

Posters saying that Fury's 273 lbs is all muscle growth. All I know is that I put bets down after the weigh in on Wilder by KO.
Fury looks in great shape. This isn't a Ruiz situation.

Wilder may still win but Fury certainly hasn't been raiding Ruiz's snicker collection.

He hasn't got all the fat of Andy Ruiz, but he has a lot of fat anyway.... I don't know what to think.

Posted: **22 Feb 2020, 04:53**

oogiebe wrote: ↑21 Feb 2020, 21:03
ValMar wrote: ↑21 Feb 2020, 15:03 My prediction, based on my feeling, not on my knowledge - Wilder by KO/TKO. I suppose he will be able to catch Fury (one proper punch will be enough).
Posters saying that Fury's 273 lbs is all muscle growth. All I know is that I put bets down after the weigh in on Wilder by KO.

I don't know that its muscle growth entirely, but it does point to the fact that he's probably not just talking when he says he intends to engage Wilder more, and attempt to knock him out.

It's probably a crazy idea.

His logic in thinking Wilder could be beaten this way is sound, I just don't know if HE'S the guy to beat him this way.

Muffling a puncher's big shots can work though. Ask Vince Phillips and Ricky Hatton how it worked out against Tszyu. Sometimes getting inside, and not giving them room to punch is the ticket more so than avoiding them which convential wisdom suggests you should do.

If Fury insists on trying to engage in a firefight I'm not sure if he'll be successful or not, but I'm certain of one thing. We'll have a far better fight than we had the first time.

So I sure hope he is 100% sincere in his intention to come right out and "knock out Wilder in the 2nd round"

Posted: **22 Feb 2020, 05:17**

gilgamesh wrote: ↑22 Feb 2020, 04:53
oogiebe wrote: ↑21 Feb 2020, 21:03

Posters saying that Fury's 273 lbs is all muscle growth. All I know is that I put bets down after the weigh in on Wilder by KO.
I don't know that its muscle growth entirely, but it does point to the fact that he's probably not just talking when he says he intends to engage Wilder more, and attempt to knock him out.

It's probably a crazy idea.

His logic in thinking Wilder could be beaten this way is sound, I just don't know if HE'S the guy to beat him this way.

Muffling a puncher's big shots can work though. Ask Vince Phillips and Ricky Hatton how it worked out against Tszyu. Sometimes getting inside, and not giving them room to punch is the ticket more so than avoiding them which convential wisdom suggests you should do.

If Fury insists on trying to engage in a firefight I'm not sure if he'll be successful or not, but I'm certain of one thing. We'll have a far better fight than we had the first time.

So I sure hope he is 100% sincere in his intention to come right out and "knock out Wilder in the 2nd round"

I think his plan will be to work inside too but I'm not sure Bayliss will let him

Posted: **22 Feb 2020, 07:11**

gilgamesh wrote: ↑22 Feb 2020, 04:53
oogiebe wrote: ↑21 Feb 2020, 21:03

Posters saying that Fury's 273 lbs is all muscle growth. All I know is that I put bets down after the weigh in on Wilder by KO.
I don't know that its muscle growth entirely, but it does point to the fact that he's probably not just talking when he says he intends to engage Wilder more, and attempt to knock him out.

It's probably a crazy idea.

His logic in thinking Wilder could be beaten this way is sound, I just don't know if HE'S the guy to beat him this way.

Muffling a puncher's big shots can work though. Ask Vince Phillips and Ricky Hatton how it worked out against Tszyu. Sometimes getting inside, and not giving them room to punch is the ticket more so than avoiding them which convential wisdom suggests you should do.

If Fury insists on trying to engage in a firefight I'm not sure if he'll be successful or not, but I'm certain of one thing. We'll have a far better fight than we had the first time.

So I sure hope he is 100% sincere in his intention to come right out and "knock out Wilder in the 2nd round"

Fury sincere? Kind of an oxymoron. Fury claims publicly about his masterbation to increase testosterone, eating pootang to strengthen his jaw muscles, knocked every sparring partner he had out cold, etc. He is a clown, and the extra weight will make him less mobile, and tire quicker if he is more active like he claims.
He'll have his trunks hiked up to his nipple line no doubt too to cover his extra flab. Fury will have his moments, but the only way I see him winning the fight is if he gets cut and it is stopped when it is legal he can win if ahead on the cards.

Posted: **22 Feb 2020, 07:42**

gilgamesh wrote: ↑22 Feb 2020, 04:53 So I sure hope he is 100% sincere in his intention to come right out and "knock out Wilder in the 2nd round"

Posted: **22 Feb 2020, 11:06**

Bandog wrote: ↑22 Feb 2020, 07:11
gilgamesh wrote: ↑22 Feb 2020, 04:53

I don't know that its muscle growth entirely, but it does point to the fact that he's probably not just talking when he says he intends to engage Wilder more, and attempt to knock him out.

It's probably a crazy idea.

His logic in thinking Wilder could be beaten this way is sound, I just don't know if HE'S the guy to beat him this way.

Muffling a puncher's big shots can work though. Ask Vince Phillips and Ricky Hatton how it worked out against Tszyu. Sometimes getting inside, and not giving them room to punch is the ticket more so than avoiding them which convential wisdom suggests you should do.

If Fury insists on trying to engage in a firefight I'm not sure if he'll be successful or not, but I'm certain of one thing. We'll have a far better fight than we had the first time.

So I sure hope he is 100% sincere in his intention to come right out and "knock out Wilder in the 2nd round"
Fury sincere? Kind of an oxymoron. Fury claims publicly about his masterbation to increase testosterone, eating pootang to strengthen his jaw muscles, knocked every sparring partner he had out cold, etc. He is a clown, and the extra weight will make him less mobile, and tire quicker if he is more active like he claims.
He'll have his trunks hiked up to his nipple line no doubt too to cover his extra flab. Fury will have his moments, but the only way I see him winning the fight is if he gets cut and it is stopped when it is legal he can win if ahead on the cards.

Agreed.

That old theory that 'skinny' legs Wilder is comparitvely weak and chinny has been going round for years. That and the possibility that Fury doesn't fancy risking a repeat of the near disastrous first fight seems to suggest that Fury might be willing to try out something new.

Even if he is, and I doubt it, as soon as Wilder lands anything on Fury it'll be back to hit weave, or miss and weave, or nothing but weave.

This might be boxing's biggest global fight since sight Pacquiao v Mayweather and unfortunately this will be just as big a stinker if Fury gets his way.

The question, yet to be answered, is exactly how will Wilder catch Fury?

After the Breazeale and Ortiz demolitions he's going to have a lot of eyes on him worldwide to see just how he's going to do it.

Hopefully Deontay Wilder will provide everyone of us with the answer tonight.

Posted: **22 Feb 2020, 11:15**

adislav123 wrote: ↑21 Feb 2020, 15:54
Finkel wrote: ↑16 Feb 2020, 10:12

To be fair, joking aside. He is pretty iconic.
He is the ultimate one punch knock out artist. I'm not sure we'll see his like again.

And he is the most googled boxer in the world!
whom ffs did he knock out clean with one punch? szplika jumped chin first into his fist, breazale, who else

Ethan Cox
Kelsey Arnold
Shannon Caudle
Dan Sheehan
...
...
...
Luis Ortiz

I really can't be arsed going through his KO reel. Let's just say quite a lot.

Posted: **22 Feb 2020, 13:32**

ewenhay wrote: ↑22 Feb 2020, 05:17
gilgamesh wrote: ↑22 Feb 2020, 04:53

I don't know that its muscle growth entirely, but it does point to the fact that he's probably not just talking when he says he intends to engage Wilder more, and attempt to knock him out.

It's probably a crazy idea.

His logic in thinking Wilder could be beaten this way is sound, I just don't know if HE'S the guy to beat him this way.

Muffling a puncher's big shots can work though. Ask Vince Phillips and Ricky Hatton how it worked out against Tszyu. Sometimes getting inside, and not giving them room to punch is the ticket more so than avoiding them which convential wisdom suggests you should do.

If Fury insists on trying to engage in a firefight I'm not sure if he'll be successful or not, but I'm certain of one thing. We'll have a far better fight than we had the first time.

So I sure hope he is 100% sincere in his intention to come right out and "knock out Wilder in the 2nd round"
I think his plan will be to work inside too but I'm not sure Bayliss will let him

I don't think Bayless would stop him. The only time I remember Bayless being a factor in a fight was Mayweather-Maidana 2 where he separated 'em every time they got close. You can do that with a B fighter that doesn't have any major promotional backing. I doubt you could do that with a guy like Tyson Fury, and not catch hell.

Posted: **22 Feb 2020, 15:29**

Is that British beef Fury used as good as Mexican?

Posted: **22 Feb 2020, 15:31**

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑22 Feb 2020, 15:29 Is that British beef Fury used as good as Mexican?

I didn't want to mention that but I thought it. Masterbate and eat some Mexican beef to raise his T levels.

Posted: **22 Feb 2020, 16:23**

ewenhay wrote: ↑22 Feb 2020, 01:40
oogiebe wrote: ↑21 Feb 2020, 21:03

Posters saying that Fury's 273 lbs is all muscle growth. All I know is that I put bets down after the weigh in on Wilder by KO.
Fury looks in great shape. This isn't a Ruiz situation.

If he is in great shape why weigh in wearing a vest? He’s fat as butter.

Wilder may still win but Fury certainly hasn't been raiding Ruiz's snicker collection.

Posted: **22 Feb 2020, 20:05**

Can barely care about this fight but like most I think it's Wilder's. Tired of inconsistent fighters like Fury, but he does show up for big fights. At least Wilder is consistently a shitty boxer with power and perhaps is enough to derail the world class idiot.

Posted: **22 Feb 2020, 20:25**

I’m curious, how many BoxRec folks are at the fight today? I am myself, and the atmosphere around town and at the weigh-in yesterday has been just excellent. Barring some controversy, I think this fight will be great for the sport!

My gut keeps saying Fury by upset KO for various reasons, but there’s so many X-factors I can see most any outcome. What I absolutely love about boxing!

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