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Re: Jeff Horn vs. Tim Tszyu - August 26, 2020

Posted: 26 Aug 2020, 09:05
by Ruthless-RKO
Tim Tszyu Batters Jeff Horn, Stops Him After 8th Round In One-Sided Fight

Tim Tszyu beat up Jeff Horn in their Australian grudge match until Horn’s trainer, Glenn Rushton, had seen enough Wednesday night.

The younger, stronger Tszyu battered the former WBO welterweight champion for almost eight entire rounds, before stopping his awkward, rough opponent after the eighth round at Queensland Country Bank Stadium in Townsville, Australia. Rushton instructed referee Phil Austin to stop their scheduled 10-round junior middleweight match with a beaten, exhausted Horn sitting on his stool.

Sydney’s Tszyu remained unbeaten (16-0, 12 KOs) and moved closer to a shot at WBO junior middleweight champion Patrick Teixeira.

“All respect to Jeff,” Tszyu said. “He’s achieved so much. He’s given Australia this platform. It’s an honor to sell out an event like this stadium, with another fellow Australian. All respect to Jeff again. He was a tough competitor. But look, this is a young man’s sport and I was better this night.

“I said, ‘Give me competition, someone that could test me, and, you know, it’s sink or swim.’ And I’m not gonna sink. I’m here to swim.”


The 32-year-old Horn (20-3-1, 13 KOs), who’s most known for his controversial upset of Manny Pacquiao three years ago, slipped to 2-3 in his past five fights and lost by technical knockout for the third time as a pro. The Brisbane native moved back down to the junior middleweight division to fight Tszyu after two straight fights against Australia’s Michael Zerafa at the middleweight limit of 160 pounds.

“Look, Tim was young, hungry,” Horn said. “He’s an absolute champion, so I can’t put anything past him. He’s an absolute legend, so hopefully all of Australia can support him now. He now is the number one [boxer] in Australia. He wasn’t before this. He was saying he was, but he certainly earned it now. And he’s an absolute champion, and he can fly that flag very proudly for Australia.”

In the biggest fight of his three-year pro career, the 25-year-old Tszyu simply overwhelmed Horn with his activity, pressure and strength.

“He’s very good,” Horn said. “Look, he was on his game tonight and I wasn’t probably on my game. That was all credit to Tim as well. He was out-boxing me out there, and I guess he’s got that young blood. Not that I’m old. I’m not gonna say I’m old. Everyone’s saying I’m old, but I’m not. But yeah, Tim’s got that hunger about him.”

Facing Horn was considered a step up for Tszyu, even though Horn was stopped in the ninth round two fights ago by Zerafa last August 31 at Bendigo Stadium in Bendigo, Australia. Horn came back to defeat Zerafa (27-4, 16 KOs) by 10-round majority decision in their immediate rematch December 18 at Brisbane Convention & Exhibition Centre in South Brisbane.

Horn’s opponent, the son of the legendary Kostya Tszyu, knocked Horn to the canvas twice, once apiece in the third and sixth rounds.

Tszyu’s left to the body affected Horn 1:10 into the eighth round. Horn grazed Tszyu with a right uppercut just before the midway point of the eighth, but the former champ mostly missed wildly with his punches in that round.

Tszyu nailed Horn with a right to the side of his head 20 seconds into the seventh round. Austin warned Horn for a low blow with 1:42 remaining in the seventh.

A right hand by Tszyu landed flush with just under 30 seconds to go in the seventh.

Horn took a knee with 51 seconds on the clock in the sixth round after absorbing a left to the body. He caught his breath and fended off Tszyu to make it to the end of another round.

Austin admonished Horn for hitting Tszyu on the back of his head a few seconds into the fifth round. He threatened to take a point from Horn if he kept fouling.

Tszyu staggered Horn with a left hook just after the halfway point of the fifth round. A fatigued Horn held and wrestled his way through much of the remainder of the fifth round.

Tszyu blasted Horn with a right uppercut at the midway mark of the fourth round. He made Horn move away from him after landing another right hand shortly thereafter.

Horn, bleeding from his nose, landed a left hook just before the fourth round ended.

Tszyu flung Horn to the canvas with 1:45 left I the third round and again about 15 seconds later. Tszyu buzzed Horn with a right hand when the action resumed and Horn held on to regain his senses.

A left hook inside by Tszyu sent Horn to the canvas with 23 seconds remaining in the third round. Horn got up quickly and made it to the end of the round.

Horn and Tszyu spent much of the first minute of the second round wrestling and fouling one another. Austin called for a break with 1:47 remaining in the second round to warn them for their tactics.

Tszyu landed a short, right uppercut with about 40 seconds to go in the second round. He followed with a right to the side of Horn’s head several seconds later.

Horn lunged in and landed two left hands less than 30 seconds into the fight. Horn missed wildly with a right hand later in the opening round, which led to Tszyu hitting him with a straight right hand that backed Horn into the ropes.

Tszyu hit Horn with a straight right hand with about 1:15 to go in the first round that left Horn holding him.

Re: Jeff Horn vs. Tim Tszyu - August 26, 2020

Posted: 26 Aug 2020, 09:07
by DrDuke
skanksta wrote: 26 Aug 2020, 08:52 He was a hell of a lot better against Crawford and Pac than he was tonight !
Pac was a small oldman, who still handled Horn objectively. Crawford just outclassed Horn.

Re: Jeff Horn vs. Tim Tszyu - August 26, 2020

Posted: 26 Aug 2020, 09:18
by Ruthless-RKO
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Re: Jeff Horn vs. Tim Tszyu - August 26, 2020

Posted: 26 Aug 2020, 09:19
by Ruthless-RKO
DrDuke wrote: 26 Aug 2020, 09:07
skanksta wrote: 26 Aug 2020, 08:52 He was a hell of a lot better against Crawford and Pac than he was tonight !
Pac was a small oldman, who still handled Horn objectively. Crawford just outclassed Horn.
Pac was not even motivated to fight Horn.

Re: Jeff Horn vs. Tim Tszyu - August 26, 2020

Posted: 26 Aug 2020, 09:30
by DrDuke
The today's outcome was quite predictable. I was sure in Tszyu and only had doubts in a way he was supposed to win. Tszyu showed some good fundamentals in his previous bouts. There was only a question, if Horn's dirty display would trouble Tim. And Tim was prepared to that as well.

Re: Jeff Horn vs. Tim Tszyu - August 26, 2020

Posted: 26 Aug 2020, 11:40
by Finkel
Shhhh wrote: 26 Aug 2020, 09:40
DrDuke wrote: 26 Aug 2020, 09:30 The today's outcome was quite predictable. I was sure in Tszyu and only had doubts in a way he was supposed to win. Tszyu showed some good fundamentals in his previous bouts. There was only a question, if Horn's dirty display would trouble Tim. And Tim was prepared to that as well.
I’d never watched a full horn fight. He really is a dirty bastard and a spoiler
That's school teachers for ya

Re: Jeff Horn vs. Tim Tszyu - August 26, 2020

Posted: 26 Aug 2020, 11:54
by Ruthless-RKO
Official Judges scores after 8 rounds

Chris Condon | 80-71
Phillip Holiday | 77-73
Derek Milham | 79-73

All for Tim Tszyu

Re: Jeff Horn vs. Tim Tszyu - August 26, 2020

Posted: 26 Aug 2020, 11:57
by Ruthless-RKO
Boxrec states:

"Commentary and media announced as corner retirement. This is incorrect. The bout was stopped with the referees decision."

Re: Jeff Horn vs. Tim Tszyu - August 26, 2020

Posted: 26 Aug 2020, 15:21
by Offthehook
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 26 Aug 2020, 11:57 Boxrec states:

"Commentary and media announced as corner retirement. This is incorrect. The bout was stopped with the referees decision."
yeah was wondering about that. tim did look good though

Re: Jeff Horn vs. Tim Tszyu - August 26, 2020

Posted: 26 Aug 2020, 16:06
by gregregegg
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 26 Aug 2020, 11:57 Boxrec states:

"Commentary and media announced as corner retirement. This is incorrect. The bout was stopped with the referees decision."
It was defiantly corner retirement. Unless that member of the corner didn’t have the authority to retire Horn but the ref agreed with him so did it himself?

Re: Jeff Horn vs. Tim Tszyu - August 26, 2020

Posted: 26 Aug 2020, 17:55
by TheBeast
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Jeff Horn 20 2 1
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Horn down in round 3 & 6






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Re: Jeff Horn vs. Tim Tszyu - August 26, 2020

Posted: 26 Aug 2020, 18:02
by conan_the_cribber
Well, Horn was sub-par, so hard to read much into this win.

Positives for Tszyu
- Very composed. Not phased at all by Horn's swarming style.
- Has a range of shots to use, straight rights, uppercuts and lefts to the body.
- Excellent stamina. Very fresh.

Negatives
- Doesn't seem to have one punch power. He hit Horn with clean rights all night and couldn't put him down with it.
- Open to the left hook counter.
- He was pacing himself well, but unlike his father, he didn't seem to have very good footwork. He certainly wasn't finding new angles with his feet. This may have had to do with Horn's approach, but it's not like Tszyu was on his toes, ready to change the direction of attack at any time in the fight.

I can't imagine him troubling the top contendors in the division. He has solid fundamentals, but no real magic.

Re: Jeff Horn vs. Tim Tszyu - August 26, 2020

Posted: 26 Aug 2020, 18:28
by margaret thatcher
I think he could beat a dude like Jeison Rosario, who currently finds himself a unified champ. Lara is also nearing 40 years old, and after maybe a couple of guys at most there aren't too many standout dudes at 154 any more. Tim can do well for sure.

Re: Jeff Horn vs. Tim Tszyu - August 26, 2020

Posted: 26 Aug 2020, 19:40
by gilgamesh
What a shock. The guy who's claim to fame is winning a decision he didn't deserve can't for the life of him manage another significant win.

Because he never managed one in the first place.

Re: Jeff Horn vs. Tim Tszyu - August 26, 2020

Posted: 26 Aug 2020, 20:26
by jujigatame
Just watched the fight. Thought the ref was woeful, warning Horn for all the grappling in the first 2 rounds and then letting him do it continuously for the rest of the fight without making a peep. Horn embarrassed himself at times with his desperation to hold at all costs.

Tszyu mostly looked good but there are definitely areas for improvement. He threw some really telegraphed shots and he smothered his own punches at times. But he's only 25 and has time to improve those areas.

BTW it was surreal seeing a fight with a live crowd. A reminder that there are places in the world less fucked than here.

Re: Jeff Horn vs. Tim Tszyu - August 26, 2020

Posted: 27 Aug 2020, 02:02
by gregregegg
conan_the_cribber wrote: 26 Aug 2020, 18:02
Negatives
- Doesn't seem to have one punch power. He hit Horn with clean rights all night and couldn't put him down with it.
Decent enough power i think, not amazing, but not bad for a 25 year old still filling in a bit, horn is just tough as nails. Thats the quickest horn has ever been stopped, and he has been in with pac, craw and a mid levle middle weight twice. Noone has ever just starched horn out of nowhere. Pac hit him with about 300 good shots in round 9 of there fault and couldent budge him...

Re: Jeff Horn vs. Tim Tszyu - August 26, 2020

Posted: 27 Aug 2020, 03:45
by conan_the_cribber
gregregegg wrote: 27 Aug 2020, 02:02
conan_the_cribber wrote: 26 Aug 2020, 18:02
Negatives
- Doesn't seem to have one punch power. He hit Horn with clean rights all night and couldn't put him down with it.
Decent enough power i think, not amazing, but not bad for a 25 year old still filling in a bit, horn is just tough as nails. Thats the quickest horn has ever been stopped, and he has been in with pac, craw and a mid levle middle weight twice. Noone has ever just starched horn out of nowhere. Pac hit him with about 300 good shots in round 9 of there fault and couldent budge him...
Well at 25, you've already reached your physical peak. I don't think you can factor that in. But maybe Horn's toughness. Horn does have a pretty solid neck which helps absorb such blows. We'll wait and see. Must be hard for Tszyu dealing with all the comparisons to his father. Best of luck to him.

Re: Jeff Horn vs. Tim Tszyu - August 26, 2020

Posted: 27 Aug 2020, 10:27
by bobcatbox
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 26 Aug 2020, 11:54 Official Judges scores after 8 rounds

Chris Condon | 80-71
Phillip Holiday | 77-73
Derek Milham | 79-73

All for Tim Tszyu
What fight was Holiday watching??

Re: Jeff Horn vs. Tim Tszyu - August 26, 2020

Posted: 27 Aug 2020, 13:04
by Ruthless-RKO
ryandmosley wrote: 27 Aug 2020, 10:27
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 26 Aug 2020, 11:54 Official Judges scores after 8 rounds

Chris Condon | 80-71
Phillip Holiday | 77-73
Derek Milham | 79-73

All for Tim Tszyu
What fight was Holiday watching??
No idea.. the ONLY rounds Horn COULD HAVE won was the first 2.. but I didn’t even have him winning them.

Re: Jeff Horn vs. Tim Tszyu - August 26, 2020

Posted: 27 Aug 2020, 14:15
by bobcatbox
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 27 Aug 2020, 13:04
ryandmosley wrote: 27 Aug 2020, 10:27
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 26 Aug 2020, 11:54 Official Judges scores after 8 rounds

Chris Condon | 80-71
Phillip Holiday | 77-73
Derek Milham | 79-73

All for Tim Tszyu
What fight was Holiday watching??
No idea.. the ONLY rounds Horn COULD HAVE won was the first 2.. but I didn’t even have him winning them.
Just a ludicrous scorecard. You could arguably give Horn 1 or both of the first two rounds. Or score the first even. But the rest of the fight was a complete blowout.

Re: Jeff Horn vs. Tim Tszyu - August 26, 2020

Posted: 29 Aug 2020, 05:21
by Ruthless-RKO
Bob Arum: Tim Tszyu Looks Terrific, Looks Like He's The Real Goods

“He looks terrific, he looks like he’s the real goods,” Arum said to The Age. “It’s like race horses; sometimes you can tell the colt is going to be good because the sire was good. It was on ESPN plus, the streaming service of ESPN, which now has 11 million subscribers. He looked really good.

“I talked to Matt, his manager and promoter, and he said he wanted him to fight again before the end of the year in Australia and then he would bring him over to the United States.”


Arum said it wasn't fair for experts to constantly compare Tszyu to his famous father.

“There’s no mistaking the resemblance,” Arum said. “Kostya Tszyu was a tremendous fighter. You can’t make comparisons. Kostya was fighting at a much lower weight. I hate to make comparisons between fighters in different eras, no less the father and the son.

“[A world title is possible], but let’s not jump. He’s still a baby and needs a little bit more schooling. But I would think he’s about a year away. Probably by the end of next year he will be in a position to compete for a world title with a real good chance to win.”

Re: Jeff Horn vs. Tim Tszyu - August 26, 2020

Posted: 31 Aug 2020, 09:45
by Ruthless-RKO
Jeff Horn Was Gassed After Two Rounds, Admits Cornerman

Stephen Edwards, who worked with Horn for seven years, has made statements that raise serious questions regarding the fighter's conditioning for the bout.

"By the end of the second round I thought Jeff was gassed," Edwards told The Sunday Telegraph. "He got by on pure heart from that point.

"From round five onwards there were some robust discussions in our corner about where the fight was heading."

Horn's trainer Glenn Rushton has taken a lot of criticism for debating the stoppage of the contest after eight rounds. Rushton was giving Horn the opportunity to continue, while others in the corner were asking for the contest to get stopped.

"Jeff had taken a lot of punishment," Edwards said. "His legs were gone, his power was gone, his speed was gone and he had no petrol left. We were way behind on the scorecards.

"Because I care so much about Jeff I couldn't allow him to go back out. Jeff's a warrior and if he'd had something left he'd have told us to let him go on."

Re: Jeff Horn vs. Tim Tszyu - August 26, 2020

Posted: 01 Sep 2020, 08:11
by Ajay11
What I find abnormal bordering on the insane is the continuous mention of THE GREAT MANNY PACQUIO who was robbed against the joker Jeff Horn who is the worst fighter ....blah, blah, blah. :witzend:

1. Has there ever been such sad losers in the history of sport.

2. He lost, it's official, get over it.

3. Stop denigrating Horn as it does nothing to support the claim that Pacman is the greatest since chicken adobo.

4. He lost, it's official, get over it.

Re: Jeff Horn vs. Tim Tszyu - August 26, 2020

Posted: 04 Sep 2020, 18:04
by brilo33
Ajay11 wrote: 01 Sep 2020, 08:11 What I find abnormal bordering on the insane is the continuous mention of THE GREAT MANNY PACQUIO who was robbed against the joker Jeff Horn who is the worst fighter ....blah, blah, blah. :witzend:

1. Has there ever been such sad losers in the history of sport.

2. He lost, it's official, get over it.

3. Stop denigrating Horn as it does nothing to support the claim that Pacman is the greatest since chicken adobo.

4. He lost, it's official, get over it.
well you wont hear that here i thought horn won that pac fight

Re: Jeff Horn vs. Tim Tszyu - August 26, 2020

Posted: 04 Sep 2020, 18:11
by brilo33
as much as i think horn was finished in this fight became quite obvious after the 1 st rd, got to say Tim Tszyu looked different fighter since his last couple of fights , what i liked also with Tim Tszyu he didnt let jeff bully him, Tszyu landed some good shots hands looked good as well, strong up stairs down stairs , patience aswell very improved good sign and stopped horn who has a lot of heart really good win , i wouldnt rush him yet though