Re: Is Fury the best heavyweight of all time?
Posted: 26 Mar 2020, 17:44
As his argument gets weaker he'll start posting more emojis.
Then when he's really on the ropes he'll ask me who my top ten is.
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Re: Is Fury the best heavyweight of all time?
Posted: 26 Mar 2020, 17:45
Re: Is Fury the best heavyweight of all time?
Posted: 26 Mar 2020, 17:46
Re: Is Fury the best heavyweight of all time?
Posted: 26 Mar 2020, 17:49
Lol, as if anyone is having trouble putting forth a strong argument vs your fussing about size being considered 
If you are going to take guys as they actually were, of course it's relevant, of course it should be mentioned, of course it's not flawed just because it puts little guys at a disadvantage. If none of this is to matter, or if size shouldn't be part of it because it's unfair, you gotta stretch some bones out on some guys, crunch them on others, etc...because that's essentialy what you're arguing for 
Btw can hardly see anyone saying it's all that matter, this always happens though , someone just mentions it a s a factor and you get someone moaning 'waah, look he's saying size is all that matters and biggest is best '
If you are going to take guys as they actually were, of course it's relevant, of course it should be mentioned, of course it's not flawed just because it puts little guys at a disadvantage. If none of this is to matter, or if size shouldn't be part of it because it's unfair, you gotta stretch some bones out on some guys, crunch them on others, etc...because that's essentialy what you're arguing for Btw can hardly see anyone saying it's all that matter, this always happens though , someone just mentions it a s a factor and you get someone moaning 'waah, look he's saying size is all that matters and biggest is best '
Re: Is Fury the best heavyweight of all time?
Posted: 26 Mar 2020, 17:51
Re: Is Fury the best heavyweight of all time?
Posted: 26 Mar 2020, 17:52
Re: Is Fury the best heavyweight of all time?
Posted: 26 Mar 2020, 17:53
I wouldn't expect rankings out of you anyway, too much work, too much thinking, you prefer the just chrip in with one or two liners
Re: Is Fury the best heavyweight of all time?
Posted: 26 Mar 2020, 17:54
Re: Is Fury the best heavyweight of all time?
Posted: 26 Mar 2020, 17:54
Smaller guys from prior eras should be able to use baseball bats to even things out vs the slick giants of today!margaret thatcher wrote: ↑26 Mar 2020, 17:49 Lol, as if anyone is having trouble putting forth a strong argument vs your fussing about size being considered
Btw can hardly see anyone saying it's all that matter, this always happens though , someone just mentions it a s a factor and you get someone moaning 'waah, look he's saying size is all that matters and biggest is best '
I think most of us know that size is an attribute just like hand speed; footwork; athleticism; power, etc.
Re: Is Fury the best heavyweight of all time?
Posted: 26 Mar 2020, 17:55
Ya, but some people think it's unfair game to mention it ,,, ooh, those poor poor little guys of the 1900s
Re: Is Fury the best heavyweight of all time?
Posted: 26 Mar 2020, 17:56
I'll try and make it nice an easy for you to understand.
Yes, Fury would possibly knock Jack Dempsey, Rocky Marciano and Joe Louis into next week due to the size difference.
But that doesn't make Fury a greater heavyweight than any of them.
Yes, Fury would possibly knock Jack Dempsey, Rocky Marciano and Joe Louis into next week due to the size difference.
But that doesn't make Fury a greater heavyweight than any of them.
Re: Is Fury the best heavyweight of all time?
Posted: 26 Mar 2020, 17:57
It makes him their daddy
Re: Is Fury the best heavyweight of all time?
Posted: 26 Mar 2020, 17:58
But but but Jack Johnson once fought someone who was 5ft 7 so that means he was rubbish.
But but but Fury is much bigger than Jack Johnson so that means he's better.
Do you even read your own posts?
But but but Fury is much bigger than Jack Johnson so that means he's better.
Do you even read your own posts?
Re: Is Fury the best heavyweight of all time?
Posted: 26 Mar 2020, 17:58
If you believe that Fury can do that then you believe he might be the best ever. I think Lewis beats them all so I guess I think he's the greatest HW ever.
Re: Is Fury the best heavyweight of all time?
Posted: 26 Mar 2020, 17:59
He won the HW title from that guy too, would be like someone winning the HW title today vs Danny Garcia
Re: Is Fury the best heavyweight of all time?
Posted: 26 Mar 2020, 18:00
No I don't. I'm a Fury fan as you well know.
But I'd be bonkers to rank him above other heavyweights such as the afore mentioned. And plenty others
Re: Is Fury the best heavyweight of all time?
Posted: 26 Mar 2020, 18:00
Ok,, you got me laughing my arse off now! Geez you are relentless!!!margaret thatcher wrote: ↑26 Mar 2020, 17:59 He won the HW title from that guy too, would be like someone winning the HW title today vs Danny Garcia
Re: Is Fury the best heavyweight of all time?
Posted: 26 Mar 2020, 18:01
Re: Is Fury the best heavyweight of all time?
Posted: 26 Mar 2020, 18:04
Yeah but that's not how I think we should rate them.
I think they should be rated on what they achieved in their era based on real life.
Not what people think might happen when a big guy meets a smaller guy.
Re: Is Fury the best heavyweight of all time?
Posted: 26 Mar 2020, 18:05
Thread was about who is better ability wise, hardly bonkers to think someone is better than a guy they beat (and a guy who think they would beat)
Re: Is Fury the best heavyweight of all time?
Posted: 26 Mar 2020, 18:08
There's such a size difference between a Fury/Lewis and the top HWS from the first half of the 20th century that you'd arguably have to look at it P4P. Fury best ever is quite a stretch, but top 10 is reasonable.
Re: Is Fury the best heavyweight of all time?
Posted: 26 Mar 2020, 18:08
For example
Ali came out on top based on the head to head meetings of all the heavyweights in his era. Which included a decent number of fellow heavyweight champions and fellow all time greats. . In an era where there was only one recognised champion to boot.
Fury can't say that. At least yet. He has a win against one guy who could arguably be considered as an atg. Plus one other heavyweight champion. Those are great wins but not enough imo to elevate you above others who have came before.
Ali came out on top based on the head to head meetings of all the heavyweights in his era. Which included a decent number of fellow heavyweight champions and fellow all time greats. . In an era where there was only one recognised champion to boot.
Fury can't say that. At least yet. He has a win against one guy who could arguably be considered as an atg. Plus one other heavyweight champion. Those are great wins but not enough imo to elevate you above others who have came before.
Re: Is Fury the best heavyweight of all time?
Posted: 26 Mar 2020, 18:15
I love boxing fans. Most of you predicted hed lose to wilder and now you have him as the best ever.
Re: Is Fury the best heavyweight of all time?
Posted: 26 Mar 2020, 18:16
Another boxing forum feature: 1 guy says something extreme, suddenly people claim everyone is saying it
Re: Is Fury the best heavyweight of all time?
Posted: 26 Mar 2020, 18:18
Maddening isn't it?Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑26 Mar 2020, 18:15 I love boxing fans. Most of you predicted hed lose to wilder and now you have him as the best ever.