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Re: Anthony Joshua warns Mike Tyson: We’re bigger, we’re stronger
Posted: 30 Jul 2020, 06:49
by tiny_acres
lazboy wrote: ↑30 Jul 2020, 06:36
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑30 Jul 2020, 06:33
lazboy wrote: ↑30 Jul 2020, 06:29
Pretty dumb stuff man. You certainly judged Blowe, calling him a liar.
If it's so "dumb", why don't you quote my words where I supposedly said that "size is the only thing that matters"?
I've never said that and it doesn't represent my thoughts.
And it is "pretty dumb" to hold me accountable for other people's lies, because that's precisely what they are.
Man seriously...get help.
We have an actual interesting topic and like always it is turned into a pissing contest.
Another thread ruined by our own fact checker.
He is not worth arguing with.
Re: Anthony Joshua warns Mike Tyson: We’re bigger, we’re stronger
Posted: 30 Jul 2020, 06:54
by lazboy
I know but I didn’t have anything better to do today lol. Next few days I’m busy though. He’s a big waste of time. Where have you been tiny? Trying to socially distance form the CS? Why? COVID?
Re: Anthony Joshua warns Mike Tyson: We’re bigger, we’re stronger
Posted: 30 Jul 2020, 07:02
by RScarf1
I think what Joshua said is nearly total bullcrap. If that is true about sports science and technology making boxers significantly better than the '80s-'90s, then Joshua is inferring that Tyson would lose to Joshua today even if Tyson was in his prime today. With all the GMO food in the world now, I would say athletes today would be worse unless they were eating all non-GMO/organic food. Some boxers took their training to another level in the '80s-'90s. Evander Holyfield is one example. He was a cruiserweight and became one of the best heavyweight champions.
It's easier to compare athletes in sports that can be measured such as running. Times have improved, but there were good runners in the '80s that could compete with runners today. I was a track and cross-country runner in high school and even my best times 30 years ago are better than some of the runners currently on college teams. If I would have known about yoga, I would have done that, but the different types of training I did 30 years ago is still being done. The only reason that Tyson couldn't beat Joshua today is because of age. Otherwise, he would suffer the same fate as Frank Bruno when he fought Tyson.
Re: Anthony Joshua warns Mike Tyson: We’re bigger, we’re stronger
Posted: 30 Jul 2020, 07:28
by tiny_acres
lazboy wrote: ↑30 Jul 2020, 06:54
I know but I didn’t have anything better to do today lol. Next few days I’m busy though. He’s a big waste of time. Where have you been tiny? Trying to socially distance form the CS? Why? COVID?
Actually just been bored with the same arguments on here. I read nearly every thread but they all seem to be argued out.
I ain't left just can not seem to get excited about too much
Re: Anthony Joshua warns Mike Tyson: We’re bigger, we’re stronger
Posted: 30 Jul 2020, 07:55
by cormack
have to agree with AJ
Tyson got crushed by Lennox Lewis who is probably the best example of just how big and strong todays fighters are .
Re: Anthony Joshua warns Mike Tyson: We’re bigger, we’re stronger
Posted: 30 Jul 2020, 07:58
by bigjack
Only boredom brought me to CS and after seeing this thread go down the pan I won't be back in a hurry,they always say it only takes one person to ruine a good thing,looks like that's the case.
Re: Anthony Joshua warns Mike Tyson: We’re bigger, we’re stronger
Posted: 30 Jul 2020, 08:00
by bigjack
stevec@france wrote: ↑30 Jul 2020, 07:55
have to agree with AJ
Tyson got crushed by Lennox Lewis who is probably the best example of just how big and strong todays fighters are .
Tyson was well past it,Lewis was arguably at his peak.
Re: Anthony Joshua warns Mike Tyson: We’re bigger, we’re stronger
Posted: 30 Jul 2020, 09:05
by RScarf1
stevec@france wrote: ↑30 Jul 2020, 07:55
have to agree with AJ
Tyson got crushed by Lennox Lewis who is probably the best example of just how big and strong todays fighters are .
Ok, so therefore, Lennox Lewis would get crushed by Joshua since Lewis is not one of today's fighters. Genetics is the most important factor as to whether someone becomes a world-class athlete or not. The athletes today and yesterday train hard, but what separates the best from the above average to average is genetics. That's why Michael Jordan and LeBron James are among the best basketball players of all time. Everyone in the NBA trains and works hard. It's the same thing with other sports such as running. The runners who have the best genetics are the best runners. Tyson had the genetics. He also needed to train hard and have good guidance, but he had God-given ability when he was young.
Re: Anthony Joshua warns Mike Tyson: We’re bigger, we’re stronger
Posted: 30 Jul 2020, 09:10
by margaret thatcher
What is modern sports sciene and methods anyway. Those funny looking rope things dudes always look like utter fannies pulling? the whole hit the giant tire with a hammer stuff?
It's one thing when comparing to past hws who were really the size of lhws today or even smaller (for example the 5'7 160ish pound tiny midget Tommy Burns was hw champ), but dudes over last several decades havent been that small. smaller on the whole , ya, but not like tiny smol. remember guys like vander and tyson were pretty ripped too, i'm sure they could inflate themselves with 20 more pounds and still not be that tubby
there defo is an emphasis on being big and strong today. size and strength make a difference, and obviously the closer you get in ability the more of a fight changer it is. but the hw greats also looked a hell of a lot more natural, comfortable, and fluid in the ring
Re: Anthony Joshua warns Mike Tyson: We’re bigger, we’re stronger
Posted: 30 Jul 2020, 09:20
by RScarf1
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Jul 2020, 09:10
What is modern sports sciene and methods anyway. Those funny looking rope things dudes always look like fannies pulling? the whole hit the giant tire with a hammer stuff?
It's one thing when comparing to past hws who were really the size of lhws today or even smaller (for example the 5'7 160ish pound midget Tommy Burns was hw champ), but dudes over last several decades havent been that small. smaller on the whole , ya, but not like tiny smol.
there defo is an emphasis on being big and strong today. size and strength make a difference. but the hw greats also looked a hell of a lot more natural, comfortable, and fluid in the ring than anyone we've seen at least since len and co
I think you mean the heavy rope training with usually two ropes that they move up and down to form waves. Yeah, that stuff wasn't around in the '80s. I agree there is much more of a difference in size and strength when comparing boxers from 100 years ago to today as opposed to the '80s to today.
Re: Anthony Joshua warns Mike Tyson: We’re bigger, we’re stronger
Posted: 30 Jul 2020, 09:21
by margaret thatcher
Ya, that's the thing i meant, if you wanna look silly as f@ck go exercise with those lol
Re: Anthony Joshua warns Mike Tyson: We’re bigger, we’re stronger
Posted: 30 Jul 2020, 09:25
by Tony1244
I thought my razor was dull until I read EO. I think EO got jealous when I wrote Kronk is the dullest guy on here.
Re: Anthony Joshua warns Mike Tyson: We’re bigger, we’re stronger
Posted: 30 Jul 2020, 09:35
by tiny_acres
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Jul 2020, 09:10
It's one thing when comparing to past hws who were really the size of lhws today or even smaller (for example the 5'7 160ish pound tiny midget Tommy Burns was hw champ), but dudes over last several decades havent been that small. smaller on the whole , ya, but not like tiny smol.
This here also summarizes my thoughts on the topic.
Comparing fighters who fought 80 plus years ago who would be middleweight or at the most super middleweight with the 24 hour weigh ins today. Compare to our super heavyweights of today is crazy.
But the fighters of the 70s and 80s are not giving up as much hight and reach as some are leading us to believe.
Re: Anthony Joshua warns Mike Tyson: We’re bigger, we’re stronger
Posted: 30 Jul 2020, 11:20
by punchoutsb
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑30 Jul 2020, 04:31
punchoutsb wrote: ↑30 Jul 2020, 00:55You cannot justify an opinion with an opinion.
In the future please make sure to use a disclaimer to warn other posters when you’re going to spout unverifiable nonsense.
The opinions of experts are admissible as evidence of fact in lawsuits.
So yes, you can justify a personal opinion, using the opinion of an expert or multiple experts.
Therefore, please make sure
YOU use a disclaimer to warn other posters when you’re going to spout unverifiable nonsense.
The opinions of experts with contingent financial interest in the outcome can be excluded. And this isn't a lawsuit...
Re: Anthony Joshua warns Mike Tyson: We’re bigger, we’re stronger
Posted: 30 Jul 2020, 11:24
by Counter-puncher
fvck me ragged, this is a new low.
Re: Anthony Joshua warns Mike Tyson: We’re bigger, we’re stronger
Posted: 30 Jul 2020, 11:55
by oogiebe
C'mon man, EO is comic gold. Repetitive yes, but hilariously moronic. I'm still waiting for him to raise up Jack O'Halleron to superstar status.
Re: Anthony Joshua warns Mike Tyson: We’re bigger, we’re stronger
Posted: 30 Jul 2020, 12:06
by brilo33
i mean he is right they are bigger and stronger, but it aint strong man its fighting , i mean everyone knows who has seen a fight muscles hight or what ever mean for nothing if your up against someone who is game and a fighter then add can throw a punch or take a punch hand speed natural power goes on, Pinklon Thomas v tyson is how i see aj v mike going
Re: Anthony Joshua warns Mike Tyson: We’re bigger, we’re stronger
Posted: 30 Jul 2020, 12:23
by Counter-puncher
oogiebe wrote: ↑30 Jul 2020, 11:55
C'mon man, EO is comic gold. Repetitive yes, but hilariously moronic. I'm still waiting for him to raise up Jack O'Halleron to superstar status.
whatever comedy there may be is lost on me now I'm afraid. there's only so many shrill, screeching attempts at self-justification I can listen to, when they're that far off-base. let's face it, dudes continually precipitating situations then crying 'persecution' is pretty nauseating to start off with, add to that the constant stroking of his own ego, the (intentional or unintentional)misreadings of other people's arguments and logical fallacies, the argumentative tunnel-vision, the colossal arrogance, the misplaced tone of victory, I could keep going- by now it's just a dude who (let's face it) already had enough issues, talking himself ever-deeper into his very own little narcissistic echo-chamber (I mean, you just know he re-lives his internet victories for, like,
hours even when he's offline, right? I mean, he's every now and then starting out of his chair with a little 'eureka!' moment, 'here's how i will vanquish my latest online foe,
I will prevail once more etc'). It's not unlike henry actually, in the sense that the more opposition and abuse he gets, the more he evolves into a mindset where this actually somehow proves
just how right he is and it negatively reinforces his already-warped self-perception. yeah, I'm pretty much at the same point as I was with Henry, like, vaguely sympathetic to his mental health plight, but then the dude just acts like way too much of a dick to actually care. i certainly don't want to lower myself wasting time in 'discussion' with a brick wall.
Re: Anthony Joshua warns Mike Tyson: We’re bigger, we’re stronger
Posted: 30 Jul 2020, 12:37
by oogiebe
Counter-puncher wrote: ↑30 Jul 2020, 12:23
oogiebe wrote: ↑30 Jul 2020, 11:55
C'mon man, EO is comic gold. Repetitive yes, but hilariously moronic. I'm still waiting for him to raise up Jack O'Halleron to superstar status.
whatever comedy there may be is lost on me now I'm afraid. there's only so many shrill, screeching attempts at self-justification I can listen to, when they're that far off-base. let's face it, dudes continually precipitating situations then crying 'persecution' is pretty nauseating to start off with, add to that the constant stroking of his own ego, the (intentional or unintentional)misreadings of other people's arguments and logical fallacies, the argumentative tunnel-vision, the colossal arrogance, the misplaced tone of victory, I could keep going- by now it's just a dude who (let's face it) already had enough issues, talking himself ever-deeper into his very own little narcissistic echo-chamber (I mean, you just know he re-lives his internet victories for, like,
hours even when he's offline, right? I mean, he's every now and then starting out of his chair with a little 'eureka!' moment, 'here's how i will vanquish my latest online foe,
I will prevail once more etc'). It's not unlike henry actually, in the sense that the more opposition and abuse he gets, the more he evolves into a mindset where this actually somehow proves
just how right he is and it negatively reinforces his already-warped self-perception. yeah, I'm pretty much at the same point as I was with Henry, like, vaguely sympathetic to his mental health plight, but then the dude just acts like way too much of a dick to actually care. i certainly don't want to lower myself wasting time in 'discussion' with a brick wall.
Brillian post.
I still think he's funny AF. (in a pathetic way of course).
Re: Anthony Joshua warns Mike Tyson: We’re bigger, we’re stronger
Posted: 30 Jul 2020, 12:38
by Counter-puncher
it's difficult to say but i think he's kinda worse than henry, or at least he annoys me even more. i mean, i think henry had more of an 'excuse', if you know what i mean.
Re: Anthony Joshua warns Mike Tyson: We’re bigger, we’re stronger
Posted: 30 Jul 2020, 12:38
by margaret thatcher
He's shown new dimensions with his rimming lectures, I didn't expect that from him tbf
Re: Anthony Joshua warns Mike Tyson: We’re bigger, we’re stronger
Posted: 30 Jul 2020, 13:44
by Bard of Boxrec
Counter-puncher wrote: ↑30 Jul 2020, 12:23
oogiebe wrote: ↑30 Jul 2020, 11:55
C'mon man, EO is comic gold. Repetitive yes, but hilariously moronic. I'm still waiting for him to raise up Jack O'Halleron to superstar status.
whatever comedy there may be is lost on me now I'm afraid. there's only so many shrill, screeching attempts at self-justification I can listen to, when they're that far off-base. let's face it, dudes continually precipitating situations then crying 'persecution' is pretty nauseating to start off with, add to that the constant stroking of his own ego, the (intentional or unintentional)misreadings of other people's arguments and logical fallacies, the argumentative tunnel-vision, the colossal arrogance, the misplaced tone of victory, I could keep going- by now it's just a dude who (let's face it) already had enough issues, talking himself ever-deeper into his very own little narcissistic echo-chamber (I mean, you just know he re-lives his internet victories for, like,
hours even when he's offline, right? I mean, he's every now and then starting out of his chair with a little 'eureka!' moment, 'here's how i will vanquish my latest online foe,
I will prevail once more etc'). It's not unlike henry actually, in the sense that the more opposition and abuse he gets, the more he evolves into a mindset where this actually somehow proves
just how right he is and it negatively reinforces his already-warped self-perception. yeah, I'm pretty much at the same point as I was with Henry, like, vaguely sympathetic to his mental health plight, but then the dude just acts like way too much of a dick to actually care. i certainly don't want to lower myself wasting time in 'discussion' with a brick wall.
I’m glad I haven’t been on the end of a CP ‘Acerbic Hairdryer’ for a while
The slim possibility that EO was once a sincere poster but is now trolling everyone after realising how much people take the bait, and finding it all hilarious, makes me chuckle.
Re: Anthony Joshua warns Mike Tyson: We’re bigger, we’re stronger
Posted: 30 Jul 2020, 15:59
by Jeff_lacy_ko
Bigger, stronger and get knocked silly by short fat men ...
Re: Anthony Joshua warns Mike Tyson: We’re bigger, we’re stronger
Posted: 30 Jul 2020, 16:07
by bigjack
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑30 Jul 2020, 15:59
Bigger, stronger and get knocked silly by short fat men ...
oh yes,then ran like a marathon runner second time round.
Re: Anthony Joshua warns Mike Tyson: We’re bigger, we’re stronger
Posted: 30 Jul 2020, 16:27
by Tony1244
Uh, AJ, it's not that.
It's that Tyson is in his 50s and has been smoking as much pot as Bob Dylan. Conducive to lyrics writing, to fighting? Not as much.