Why did Groves and Booth part ways?

[DavidPayne]

Pandemic brought trip,e time overtime to my blue collar existence. I’m writing a little again, 18/19 we’re actually my most prolific years for a decade. Love you too.

[Fray Bentos]

Whatever Spud was or wasn't - he was the pioneer of British boxing on the internet and brought all the big names of British boxing to our forum at the time (doghouse...) Frank Maloney, David Haye amongst others to post and interact - so for me, he carved his name in British boxing as the news went from print media to digital media - a lot of that was solely down to him in its infancy.

As for eight stone or more heavier, professional heavyweight/serial rapist Paul King cheapshotting Spud from behind - well, it seems to bring Eric Guy glee after all these years if nobody else - Spud's response is the correct one. I hope Spud is well, he has a lot to be proud of and has done many worthy things with his life.

[Glass Joe]

pretty sure he says why in this. someone link the bit I will listen to it a weekend

[stujones]

Safe to say there will be no comeback judging by the still of him in the clip - good on him I think..... whatever people think of George personally, I thought the dignity in which he dealt with the Gutkneckt injury was fantastic and showed an amazing maturity and to go on to win a world title on the 4th attempt and following that was amazing.

For me Groves seemed to be at his physical best in the run between - Luisa and Gutkneckt - I think the wear and tear was visible from (and including) the Chudinov fight. But I was pleased he finally got the title, people forget there was a geniune case for Groves to have got the decision vs Jack anyway..... I don't think though his fight with Smith should have been for the Ring Magazine belt - Groves actually only won a vacant belt and somehow the WBA awarded it with its "Super" status.

[TheLeprechaun]

pretty sure he says why in this. someone link the bit I will listen to it a weekend

Thanks for that link. I'll watch it in more depth when i have time but he talks about Booth about an hour in. I listened for a couple of minutes. He mentions something about asking Booth to come to the Froch 1 press conference and Booth tells him he might go or he might not go and strings him along a bit as the breaking point.

Booth definitely comes across as an odd guy in interviews and I can see why they would have a weird dynamic between them. It sounds like Booth was definitely being a bit of a pr*ck there stringing him along. Groves theorizes that he was trying to assert his dominance which is a strange thing to do after being with a fighter for years. Says he "outgrew the dynamic of the relationship". I think that sums it up.

Booth is supposed to be the mature guy in the relationship who knows how to handle his fighter and keep him happy. Both guys obviously have big egos but he's about 20+ years older than Groves.

[mickey1975]

Groves is a very intelligent man.

[THEBUTCH]

Groves confirms it was Booth's no show at the press conference in Manchester that was the last straw. Sounds fair enough to me if it's true.

[mickey1975]

Why wasn’t Booth in Courtney’s corner tonight?

[king_cham]

As he was in Harlem Eubanks corner in the MTK show Wednesday and couldn't join the Matchroom bubble in time.

[margaret thatcher]

did georgie get a hair transplant

[stujones]

did georgie get a hair transplant

Looks like it - he was bald as coot in his last few fights - definately has the advance hair studio look and using the old just for men also it seemed today.

[TheGman]

Safe to say there will be no comeback judging by the still of him in the clip - good on him I think..... whatever people think of George personally, I thought the dignity in which he dealt with the Gutkneckt injury was fantastic and showed an amazing maturity and to go on to win a world title on the 4th attempt and following that was amazing.

For me Groves seemed to be at his physical best in the run between - Luisa and Gutkneckt - I think the wear and tear was visible from (and including) the Chudinov fight. But I was pleased he finally got the title, people forget there was a geniune case for Groves to have got the decision vs Jack anyway..... I don't think though his fight with Smith should have been for the Ring Magazine belt - Groves actually only won a vacant belt and somehow the WBA awarded it with its "Super" status.

I thought Groves beat Jack after a terrible start,he done better than Degale and he got a draw.

[THEBUTCH]

I had Groves beating Jack too, but couldn't argue with the decision. Very close.

[Counter-puncher]

I had Groves beating Jack too, but couldn't argue with the decision. Very close.

good fight

[Twinkle Toes]

Why wasn’t Booth in Courtney’s corner tonight?

He wasn't in her corner for her loss to Ball either.

[rhino222]

To be honest there is more to the Groves v Booth parting story. Ive been privvy to it but its a bit delicate to go on a public forum. Im not saying that just to tease, what im saying is that we should let sleeping dogs lie.

[Wee Tommy]

To be honest there is more to the Groves v Booth parting story. Ive been privvy to it but its a bit delicate to go on a public forum. Im not saying that just to tease, what im saying is that we should let sleeping dogs lie.

Who was the giver?

[Counter-puncher]

To be honest there is more to the Groves v Booth parting story. Ive been privvy to it but its a bit delicate to go on a public forum. Im not saying that just to tease, what im saying is that we should let sleeping dogs lie.

*taps nose*

[Counter-puncher]

To be honest there is more to the Groves v Booth parting story. Ive been privvy to it but its a bit delicate to go on a public forum. Im not saying that just to tease, what im saying is that we should let sleeping dogs lie.

Who was the giver?

[TheLeprechaun]

To be honest there is more to the Groves v Booth parting story. Ive been privvy to it but its a bit delicate to go on a public forum. Im not saying that just to tease, what im saying is that we should let sleeping dogs lie.

I think the overall point to it is that Booth is a weird odd guy with a big ego and George is also a guy who has a big ego, especially around that time. Booth was not mature enough to handle Groves despite being the best part of 25 years older. I think he would have been "putting Groves in his place" to "assert his dominance" and Groves perhaps didn't like it more and more. Groves had to go and get the Degale shorts because he feared Booth wouldn't give him them.

I remember after the Anderson fight Booth said something like "George is red headed. He's got a temper". At the time I thought it was a bit disrespectful. Groves will probably have had some stick over having red hair as a child.

The fact that Groves seems to have disliked Spud tells me he's probably got a good intuition on people and is the right side to be with in this.

[liamlion]

Groves is a very intelligent man.

He is certainly a deep thinker.

He also comes across as a little bit odd.

[MightyWarrior]

Nice guy George, very intelligent and yes a little eccentric, but bloody hell he’s brutally honest about the Booth thing, and Tris obviously loves a bit of gossip - clearly it was a big brother little brother thing. George looking up to Booth at the start, just out grew him ( Adam loves to play the great all wise guru doesn’t he ? i’ve always said he comes across as a little like a corner shop cult leader ) and you can tell he’s speaking the truth there and Adam is obviously a bit of a prick.

[Counter-puncher]

( Adam loves to play the great all wise guru doesn’t he ? i’ve always said he comes across as a little like a corner shop cult leader )

That’s perfectly put, I think. I was searching for a way to say this but you’ve nailed it for me, corner shop cult leader, very good, poundshop Svengali

[mickey1975]

Why wasn’t Booth in Courtney’s corner tonight?

He wasn't in her corner for her loss to Ball either.

And wouldn’t go to groves press conference? But he’ll go all over with Haye for millions. I’m taking groves side.

[DG]

I’ve seen Spud working behind the scenes at a few Sky shows and a friend of mine from Hull flew home from Latvia with him from an Usyk fight. He got a bit of a crowd into a Haye fight in Huddersfield and I’ve seen him around Booth a lot. The man has done more than 99% of people on here.

Thank you

I hope life’s good for you Spud. We had many a ruck. I remember copying one of your threads and running it alongside yours.

You went BALLASTIC

All the best.