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Re: Johnny 'The Romford Bull' Fisher

Posted: 10 Feb 2022, 09:09
by jimmystone
jameswilson wrote: 10 Feb 2022, 09:05
Coco wrote: 10 Feb 2022, 06:35 You would want 25% for sure, esp for that number of tickets, and I doubt they are paying more than 5k for the opponent.

Heavyweight opponents cost more than that surely?
Nah. I'd move about with him for a lot less than that and I haven't gloved up for nearly 20 years.

Re: Johnny 'The Romford Bull' Fisher

Posted: 10 Feb 2022, 09:12
by jameswilson
589555 wrote: 10 Feb 2022, 09:09
jameswilson wrote: 10 Feb 2022, 09:05
Coco wrote: 10 Feb 2022, 06:35 You would want 25% for sure, esp for that number of tickets, and I doubt they are paying more than 5k for the opponent.

Heavyweight opponents cost more than that surely?
Nah. I'd move about with him for a lot less than that and I haven't gloved up for nearly 20 years.
Move about with him?

Oh is 5k how much he charges for removals?

Re: Johnny 'The Romford Bull' Fisher

Posted: 10 Feb 2022, 09:43
by mickey1975
maverick23 wrote: 10 Feb 2022, 07:45
589555 wrote: 10 Feb 2022, 07:23 I seem to remember FW's ticket deals being circa 25% a couple of decades back. There or thereabouts. Arnie will obviously know. He used to push a good few tickets.

2200 tickets is serious. Must be a popular lad.
Yep. For a guy without a link to a football club and at his level it’s really impressive and will keep growing each fight if he keeps performing.
Links to football clubs mean nothing if they're not real.

Re: Johnny 'The Romford Bull' Fisher

Posted: 10 Feb 2022, 10:25
by jameswilson
Maybe Fisher will prove to not be a ‘talentless ticket seller’ but who’s your favourite ‘talentless ticket seller’ down the years?

What does me in is when they bang on about it so Frank Buglioni was mine. Every commentary. Every interview. Every time his name part escaped someone’s lips

‘You know that Frank Bug…….’

‘GAHHHHHHHHHHH He sells loads of tickets don’t you know!!!!’

Re: Johnny 'The Romford Bull' Fisher

Posted: 10 Feb 2022, 10:27
by margaret thatcher
nathan heany is apparently the biggest ticket seller in all boxing :maybe:

Re: Johnny 'The Romford Bull' Fisher

Posted: 10 Feb 2022, 10:41
by mickey1975
margaret thatcher wrote: 10 Feb 2022, 10:27 nathan heany is apparently the biggest ticket seller in all boxing :maybe:
Josh Warrington sells most out of his wife's hand.

Re: Johnny 'The Romford Bull' Fisher

Posted: 10 Feb 2022, 10:55
by jimmystone
jameswilson wrote: 10 Feb 2022, 10:25 Maybe Fisher will prove to not be a ‘talentless ticket seller’ but who’s your favourite ‘talentless ticket seller’ down the years?

What does me in is when they bang on about it so Frank Buglioni was mine. Every commentary. Every interview. Every time his name part escaped someone’s lips

‘You know that Frank Bug…….’

‘GAHHHHHHHHHHH He sells loads of tickets don’t you know!!!!’
:lol: "Talentless ticket seller" is a harsh way of putting it, James.

I'm not going to answer. I'm too nice. If you rephrased it to big ticket selling hype-job I might join in.

Re: Johnny 'The Romford Bull' Fisher

Posted: 10 Feb 2022, 18:03
by Coco
jameswilson wrote: 10 Feb 2022, 09:05
Coco wrote: 10 Feb 2022, 06:35 You would want 25% for sure, esp for that number of tickets, and I doubt they are paying more than 5k for the opponent.

Heavyweight opponents cost more than that surely?

I can't see it,, if this guy gets 5k I reckon it will be a career high purse.

How much do you think fighters earn?

Re: Johnny 'The Romford Bull' Fisher

Posted: 10 Feb 2022, 20:14
by KiwiRider
jameswilson wrote: 10 Feb 2022, 10:25 Maybe Fisher will prove to not be a ‘talentless ticket seller’ but who’s your favourite ‘talentless ticket seller’ down the years?

What does me in is when they bang on about it so Frank Buglioni was mine. Every commentary. Every interview. Every time his name part escaped someone’s lips

‘You know that Frank Bug…….’

‘GAHHHHHHHHHHH He sells loads of tickets don’t you know!!!!’
Bloody heck James!
Hangry somewhat? :wave:

Re: Johnny 'The Romford Bull' Fisher

Posted: 10 Feb 2022, 21:05
by Coco
jameswilson wrote: 10 Feb 2022, 10:25 Maybe Fisher will prove to not be a ‘talentless ticket seller’ but who’s your favourite ‘talentless ticket seller’ down the years?

What does me in is when they bang on about it so Frank Buglioni was mine. Every commentary. Every interview. Every time his name part escaped someone’s lips

‘You know that Frank Bug…….’

‘GAHHHHHHHHHHH He sells loads of tickets don’t you know!!!!’
Bugoloni talentless?? Really

Re: Johnny 'The Romford Bull' Fisher

Posted: 11 Feb 2022, 11:28
by jameswilson
Coco wrote: 10 Feb 2022, 21:05
jameswilson wrote: 10 Feb 2022, 10:25 Maybe Fisher will prove to not be a ‘talentless ticket seller’ but who’s your favourite ‘talentless ticket seller’ down the years?

What does me in is when they bang on about it so Frank Buglioni was mine. Every commentary. Every interview. Every time his name part escaped someone’s lips

‘You know that Frank Bug…….’

‘GAHHHHHHHHHHH He sells loads of tickets don’t you know!!!!’
Bugoloni talentless?? Really

No. Not really.

Re: Johnny 'The Romford Bull' Fisher

Posted: 11 Feb 2022, 12:01
by jameswilson
Coco wrote: 10 Feb 2022, 18:03
jameswilson wrote: 10 Feb 2022, 09:05
Coco wrote: 10 Feb 2022, 06:35 You would want 25% for sure, esp for that number of tickets, and I doubt they are paying more than 5k for the opponent.

Heavyweight opponents cost more than that surely?

I can't see it,, if this guy gets 5k I reckon it will be a career high purse.

How much do you think fighters earn?
I don't know at all, I was just suprised I guess. You hear how the heavyweights earn a lot more across the board. I did think this was more than a 6 rounder tho so 5k does make more sense now. I remember seeing Joe Hanks's purse vs Joe Joyce tho and thinking 'christ the heavyweights really do earn more don't they.' I know that was a PPV card but it was way down a long card.

Re: Johnny 'The Romford Bull' Fisher

Posted: 11 Feb 2022, 12:07
by mickey1975
jameswilson wrote: 11 Feb 2022, 12:01
Coco wrote: 10 Feb 2022, 18:03
jameswilson wrote: 10 Feb 2022, 09:05


Heavyweight opponents cost more than that surely?

I can't see it,, if this guy gets 5k I reckon it will be a career high purse.

How much do you think fighters earn?
I don't know at all, I was just suprised I guess. You hear how the heavyweights earn a lot more across the board. I did think this was more than a 6 rounder tho so 5k does make more sense now. I remember seeing Joe Hanks's purse vs Joe Joyce tho and thinking 'christ the heavyweights really do earn more don't they.' I know that was a PPV card but it was way down a long card.
And Matchroom pay less and Joyce is an Olympic silver medallist.

Re: Johnny 'The Romford Bull' Fisher

Posted: 11 Feb 2022, 12:59
by jameswilson
mickey1975 wrote: 11 Feb 2022, 12:07
And Matchroom pay less and Joyce is an Olympic silver medallist.
Fair enough.

Let’s say Enguema was fighting David Adeleye in a BT show. 6 rounder. Would he make the same, more or less?

Fisher and Adeleye both prospects. Decent domestic prospects but without much amateur background. But different promoters one of which, you say pays less.

Re: Johnny 'The Romford Bull' Fisher

Posted: 11 Feb 2022, 13:52
by mickey1975
Fishers own father said they would have sold 4,000 but they were only allowed 2,300 so he had to redirect them all to StubHub. He said it was so Matchroom wouldn't have to pay the commission.

Re: Johnny 'The Romford Bull' Fisher

Posted: 11 Feb 2022, 14:07
by jimmystone
mickey1975 wrote: 11 Feb 2022, 13:52 Fishers own father said they would have sold 4,000 but they were only allowed 2,300 so he had to redirect them all to StubHub. He said it was so Matchroom wouldn't have to pay the commission.
Maybe Fisher's dad needs to be think before he speaks? Johnny sells a lot of tickets but how good is he? If he's not that good he should be careful before he says things that could upset the applecart. There's always another popular, bang average local fighter who can shift tickets and keep winning when matched well. Maybe they'll offer him 4000 tickets next time and half the commission rate, what else is he going to do? "take it or leave. Johnny, you are earning the best part of £50 grand fighting a knockover, don't get greedy".

Re: Johnny 'The Romford Bull' Fisher

Posted: 11 Feb 2022, 14:23
by mickey1975
589555 wrote: 11 Feb 2022, 14:07
mickey1975 wrote: 11 Feb 2022, 13:52 Fishers own father said they would have sold 4,000 but they were only allowed 2,300 so he had to redirect them all to StubHub. He said it was so Matchroom wouldn't have to pay the commission.
Maybe Fisher's dad needs to be think before he speaks? Johnny sells a lot of tickets but how good is he? If he's not that good he should be careful before he says things that could upset the applecart. There's always another popular, bang average local fighter who can shift tickets and keep winning when matched well. Maybe they'll offer him 4000 tickets next time and half the commission rate, what else is he going to do? "take it or leave. Johnny, you are earning the best part of £50 grand fighting a knockover, don't get greedy".
Nobody at that level sells close to that except Heany. 120 is considered ok, 200 good. Josh couldn't do 200 early on, neither Hatton. Its ridiculous support.

Re: Johnny 'The Romford Bull' Fisher

Posted: 11 Feb 2022, 14:26
by mickey1975
Also, guessing they haven't all bought the cheap seats, if it's a percentage he could be on 100k! His mother is apparently rushed of her feet selling t shirts as well.

Re: Johnny 'The Romford Bull' Fisher

Posted: 11 Feb 2022, 14:50
by KiwiRider
mickey1975 wrote: 11 Feb 2022, 14:23
589555 wrote: 11 Feb 2022, 14:07
mickey1975 wrote: 11 Feb 2022, 13:52 Fishers own father said they would have sold 4,000 but they were only allowed 2,300 so he had to redirect them all to StubHub. He said it was so Matchroom wouldn't have to pay the commission.
Maybe Fisher's dad needs to be think before he speaks? Johnny sells a lot of tickets but how good is he? If he's not that good he should be careful before he says things that could upset the applecart. There's always another popular, bang average local fighter who can shift tickets and keep winning when matched well. Maybe they'll offer him 4000 tickets next time and half the commission rate, what else is he going to do? "take it or leave. Johnny, you are earning the best part of £50 grand fighting a knockover, don't get greedy".
Nobody at that level sells close to that except Heany. 120 is considered ok, 200 good. Josh couldn't do 200 early on, neither Hatton. Its ridiculous support.
Everyone loves the heavyweights.
Usually they have a Commonwealth or Olympic medal though, before they sell in those numbers.
It is surprising alright. Good on him, imagine if he got to retire after ten fights off the back of selling tickets :lol:

Re: Johnny 'The Romford Bull' Fisher

Posted: 11 Feb 2022, 14:51
by jameswilson
To be fair selling t shirts you can do sitting down so being rushed off your feet is hardly an impairment.


I wonder if they ever have Fisher at the Copper box. Every show there doesn’t seem to sell. Maybe he could sell it out.

Re: Johnny 'The Romford Bull' Fisher

Posted: 11 Feb 2022, 15:10
by jimmystone
mickey1975 wrote: 11 Feb 2022, 14:23
589555 wrote: 11 Feb 2022, 14:07
mickey1975 wrote: 11 Feb 2022, 13:52 Fishers own father said they would have sold 4,000 but they were only allowed 2,300 so he had to redirect them all to StubHub. He said it was so Matchroom wouldn't have to pay the commission.
Maybe Fisher's dad needs to be think before he speaks? Johnny sells a lot of tickets but how good is he? If he's not that good he should be careful before he says things that could upset the applecart. There's always another popular, bang average local fighter who can shift tickets and keep winning when matched well. Maybe they'll offer him 4000 tickets next time and half the commission rate, what else is he going to do? "take it or leave. Johnny, you are earning the best part of £50 grand fighting a knockover, don't get greedy".
Nobody at that level sells close to that except Heany. 120 is considered ok, 200 good. Josh couldn't do 200 early on, neither Hatton. Its ridiculous support.
It is I agree.

You are right. Ricky's fanbase was grown in large part from Arnie's and Gomez'.

Re: Johnny 'The Romford Bull' Fisher

Posted: 11 Feb 2022, 15:32
by JamesPhilips
589555 wrote: 11 Feb 2022, 15:10
mickey1975 wrote: 11 Feb 2022, 14:23
589555 wrote: 11 Feb 2022, 14:07

Maybe Fisher's dad needs to be think before he speaks? Johnny sells a lot of tickets but how good is he? If he's not that good he should be careful before he says things that could upset the applecart. There's always another popular, bang average local fighter who can shift tickets and keep winning when matched well. Maybe they'll offer him 4000 tickets next time and half the commission rate, what else is he going to do? "take it or leave. Johnny, you are earning the best part of £50 grand fighting a knockover, don't get greedy".
Nobody at that level sells close to that except Heany. 120 is considered ok, 200 good. Josh couldn't do 200 early on, neither Hatton. Its ridiculous support.
It is I agree.

You are right. Ricky's fanbase was grown in large part from Arnie's and Gomez'.
Good points here. That’s tremendous ticket sales.

Re: Johnny 'The Romford Bull' Fisher

Posted: 11 Feb 2022, 16:01
by margaret thatcher
how did johnny and his dad make so many friends

Re: Johnny 'The Romford Bull' Fisher

Posted: 11 Feb 2022, 16:20
by margaret thatcher
22 going on 40

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Re: Johnny 'The Romford Bull' Fisher

Posted: 11 Feb 2022, 16:45
by JamesPhilips
margaret thatcher wrote: 11 Feb 2022, 16:20 22 going on 40

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