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Fight Week!!

thanks to a schedule change at work I won't be able watch this fight live.
Was looking forward to this fight.
On the positive side the schedule change came a week in advance instead of the day before or day of the fight.

Ryota Murata has never won a legitimate world title fight.

Ryota Murata has never defeated a legitimate current or former world champion.

Ryota Murata has only won two fights within the last four years and has currently been inactive for 28 months.

I strongly suspect that even a completely shot iteration of Gennadiy Golovkin is capable of scoring a late stoppage victory over Ryota Murata.

So the only question mark about the outcome of this fight relates to how quickly GGG disposes of Murata.

If he does it quickly, then this suggests he’s not that far removed from his proverbial prime.

However, if Golovkin has to wait until the last quarter of the scheduled 12 rounds of the bout to score the stoppage, then I fear he might be totally shot, to the point that he’ll be embarrassed by Canelo when they fight each other again in September.

Therefore, I hope that Gennadiy turns back the clock and beats Murata within four rounds, because otherwise, I’ll have no interest in seeing the Canelo-GGG bout.

canelo will beat his ass either way

This is a guaranteed exciting fight that's bound to sell out.

2 action packed heavy punchers that are determined to stand and trade.

What's not to like?

RYOTA MURATA
mw olympic gold medalist at the London 2012 Games.
wba mw super champion
#5 Ring Magazine
#4 ESPN

apollo creed wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 12:16 RYOTA MURATA
mw olympic gold medalist at the London 2012 Games.
wba mw super champion
#5 Ring Magazine
#4 ESPN

Ryota Murata has never won a legitimate world title fight.

Ryota Murata has never defeated a legitimate current or former world champion.

Ryota Murata has only won two fights within the last four years and has currently been inactive for 28 months.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 13:07

apollo creed wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 12:16 RYOTA MURATA
mw olympic gold medalist at the London 2012 Games.
wba mw super champion
#5 Ring Magazine
#4 ESPN

Ryota Murata has never won a legitimate world title fight.

Ryota Murata has never defeated a legitimate current or former world champion.

Ryota Murata has only won two fights within the last four years and has currently been inactive for 28 months.

wow EO. Murata must suck crap.

oogiebe wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 13:12

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 13:07

apollo creed wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 12:16 RYOTA MURATA
mw olympic gold medalist at the London 2012 Games.
wba mw super champion
#5 Ring Magazine
#4 ESPN

Ryota Murata has never won a legitimate world title fight.

Ryota Murata has never defeated a legitimate current or former world champion.

Ryota Murata has only won two fights within the last four years and has currently been inactive for 28 months.

wow EO. Murata must suck crap.

yeah Murata should fight king kong and godzilla on Mount Fuji for the Eunuch-One's OCD strapon.

apollo creed wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 13:26

oogiebe wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 13:12

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 13:07
Ryota Murata has never won a legitimate world title fight.

Ryota Murata has never defeated a legitimate current or former world champion.

Ryota Murata has only won two fights within the last four years and has currently been inactive for 28 months.

wow EO. Murata must suck crap.

yeah Murata should fight king kong and godzilla on Mount Fuji for the Eunuch-One's OCD strapon.

oogiebe wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 14:51

apollo creed wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 13:26

oogiebe wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 13:12
wow EO. Murata must suck crap.

yeah Murata should fight king kong and godzilla on Mount Fuji for the Eunuch-One's OCD strapon.

I would not be surprised if Eunuch-One has a strapon belt with an attached fat dildo plugged into his but'thole.

According to PADDYPOWER, Gennadiy Golovkin is 89% certain of defeating Ryota Murata (1/8), with the underdog rated by betfair as having an 18% chance of victory (9/2).

The betting odds I’ve quoted for the Golovkin-Murata fight are pretty consistent for 25 bookmakers (as per the stats supplied by oddschecker).

Therefore, it seems that all the betting websites unanimously agree that the Golovkin-Murata bout is a mismatch.

And to be honest, I can’t disagree with them, especially when you consider Murata’s age, inactivity, poor resume and also the fighters he’s been beaten by.

As far as I can tell, none of boxing's media outlets are favouring Murata to score the upset.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑05 Apr 2022, 04:33 According to PADDYPOWER, Gennadiy Golovkin is 89% certain of defeating Ryota Murata (1/8), with the underdog rated by betfair as having an 18% chance of victory (9/2).

The betting odds I’ve quoted for the Golovkin-Murata fight are pretty consistent for 25 bookmakers (as per the stats supplied by oddschecker).

Therefore, it seems that all the betting websites unanimously agree that the Golovkin-Murata bout is a mismatch.

And to be honest, I can’t disagree with them, especially when you consider Murata’s age, inactivity, poor resume and also the fighters he’s been beaten by.

As far as I can tell, none of boxing's media outlets are favouring Murata to score the upset.

So those odds probably imply about 83% for GGG, 14% murat and 3 % draw ish, when you take out there margin.

gregregegg wrote: ↑05 Apr 2022, 04:41

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑05 Apr 2022, 04:33 According to PADDYPOWER, Gennadiy Golovkin is 89% certain of defeating Ryota Murata (1/8), with the underdog rated by betfair as having an 18% chance of victory (9/2).

The betting odds I’ve quoted for the Golovkin-Murata fight are pretty consistent for 25 bookmakers (as per the stats supplied by oddschecker).

Therefore, it seems that all the betting websites unanimously agree that the Golovkin-Murata bout is a mismatch.

And to be honest, I can’t disagree with them, especially when you consider Murata’s age, inactivity, poor resume and also the fighters he’s been beaten by.

As far as I can tell, none of boxing's media outlets are favouring Murata to score the upset.

So those odds probably imply about 83% for GGG, 14% murat and 3 % draw ish, when you take out there margin.

I don’t know where you got those numbers from, so I can’t comment.

But in terms of how I acquired my percentages, I converted the betting fractions cited by oddschecker into its equivalent implied probability, using an online calculator (i.e. 1/8 = 88.9%, as per PADDYPOWER).

So I didn’t guess those percentages in my previous post. Instead, they were calculated.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑05 Apr 2022, 04:46

gregregegg wrote: ↑05 Apr 2022, 04:41

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑05 Apr 2022, 04:33 According to PADDYPOWER, Gennadiy Golovkin is 89% certain of defeating Ryota Murata (1/8), with the underdog rated by betfair as having an 18% chance of victory (9/2).

The betting odds I’ve quoted for the Golovkin-Murata fight are pretty consistent for 25 bookmakers (as per the stats supplied by oddschecker).

Therefore, it seems that all the betting websites unanimously agree that the Golovkin-Murata bout is a mismatch.

And to be honest, I can’t disagree with them, especially when you consider Murata’s age, inactivity, poor resume and also the fighters he’s been beaten by.

As far as I can tell, none of boxing's media outlets are favouring Murata to score the upset.

So those odds probably imply about 83% for GGG, 14% murat and 3 % draw ish, when you take out there margin.

I don’t know where you got those numbers from, so I can’t comment.

But in terms of how I acquired my percentages, I converted the betting fractions cited by oddschecker into its equivalent implied probability, using an online calculator (i.e. 1/8 = 88.9%, as per PADDYPOWER).

So I didn’t guess those percentages in my previous post. Instead, they were calculated.

You converted from a betting line to imply probablity. Which is obviously wrong because I dosent account for profit margin. Your results have more than a 100 % total without accounting for a draw.

I just used a bit of sneaky guess work to see what those odds actually imply.

gregregegg wrote: ↑05 Apr 2022, 05:15

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑05 Apr 2022, 04:46

gregregegg wrote: ↑05 Apr 2022, 04:41

So those odds probably imply about 83% for GGG, 14% murat and 3 % draw ish, when you take out there margin.

I don’t know where you got those numbers from, so I can’t comment.

But in terms of how I acquired my percentages, I converted the betting fractions cited by oddschecker into its equivalent implied probability, using an online calculator (i.e. 1/8 = 88.9%, as per PADDYPOWER).

So I didn’t guess those percentages in my previous post. Instead, they were calculated.

You converted from a betting line to imply probablity. Which is obviously wrong because I dosent account for profit margin. Your results have more than a 100 % total without accounting for a draw.

I just used a bit of sneaky guess work to see what those odds actually imply.

In sports betting, the implied probability of a set of events will always add up to over 100%. The amount over 100% is the bookie’s over round. This is their expected profit.

For instance, PADDYPOWER’s betting odds for the Fury-Whyte bout are (fraction = implied probability):
• Tyson Win: 1/6 = 85.7%
• Whyte Win: 7/2 = 22.2%
• Draw: 16/1 = 5.9%

The combined total of all three percentages equates to 113.8%.

You should Google this explanation to validate it for yourself, since most people don’t believe me anyway.

Even GGG has been more active than Murata

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑05 Apr 2022, 05:27

gregregegg wrote: ↑05 Apr 2022, 05:15

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑05 Apr 2022, 04:46
I don’t know where you got those numbers from, so I can’t comment.

But in terms of how I acquired my percentages, I converted the betting fractions cited by oddschecker into its equivalent implied probability, using an online calculator (i.e. 1/8 = 88.9%, as per PADDYPOWER).

So I didn’t guess those percentages in my previous post. Instead, they were calculated.

You converted from a betting line to imply probablity. Which is obviously wrong because I dosent account for profit margin. Your results have more than a 100 % total without accounting for a draw.

I just used a bit of sneaky guess work to see what those odds actually imply.

In sports betting, the implied probability of a set of events will always add up to over 100%. The amount over 100% is the bookie’s over round. This is their expected profit.

For instance, PADDYPOWER’s betting odds for the Fury-Whyte bout are (fraction = implied probability):
• Tyson Win: 1/6 = 85.7%
• Whyte Win: 7/2 = 22.2%
• Draw: 16/1 = 5.9%

The combined total of all three percentages equates to 113.8%.

You should Google this explanation to validate it for yourself, since most people don’t believe me anyway.

No but your wording if an 89% certantiy is wrong...

I know implied odds will add high, what I was doing is converting them to a more accurate true implied probablity. It's guess work but closer to the actual probable outcomes that those odds indicate.

gregregegg wrote: ↑05 Apr 2022, 05:54

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑05 Apr 2022, 05:27

gregregegg wrote: ↑05 Apr 2022, 05:15

You converted from a betting line to imply probablity. Which is obviously wrong because I dosent account for profit margin. Your results have more than a 100 % total without accounting for a draw.

I just used a bit of sneaky guess work to see what those odds actually imply.

In sports betting, the implied probability of a set of events will always add up to over 100%. The amount over 100% is the bookie’s over round. This is their expected profit.

For instance, PADDYPOWER’s betting odds for the Fury-Whyte bout are (fraction = implied probability):
• Tyson Win: 1/6 = 85.7%
• Whyte Win: 7/2 = 22.2%
• Draw: 16/1 = 5.9%

The combined total of all three percentages equates to 113.8%.

You should Google this explanation to validate it for yourself, since most people don’t believe me anyway.

No but your wording if an 89% certantiy is wrong...

I know implied odds will add high, what I was doing is converting them to a more accurate true implied probablity. It's guess work but closer to the actual probable outcomes that those odds indicate.

I stand by the figures and my wording.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑05 Apr 2022, 04:33 According to PADDYPOWER, Gennadiy Golovkin is 89% certain of defeating Ryota Murata (1/8), with the underdog rated by betfair as having an 18% chance of victory (9/2).

The betting odds I’ve quoted for the Golovkin-Murata fight are pretty consistent for 25 bookmakers (as per the stats supplied by oddschecker).

Implied probability in sports betting is defined as, "a conversion of betting odds into a percentage taking into account the bookmaker margin to express the expected probability of an outcome occurring."

It's not worth arguing about, but you're welcome to rephrase my original quote into wording you personally deem to be more acceptable.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑05 Apr 2022, 06:18

gregregegg wrote: ↑05 Apr 2022, 05:54

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑05 Apr 2022, 05:27
In sports betting, the implied probability of a set of events will always add up to over 100%. The amount over 100% is the bookie’s over round. This is their expected profit.

For instance, PADDYPOWER’s betting odds for the Fury-Whyte bout are (fraction = implied probability):
• Tyson Win: 1/6 = 85.7%
• Whyte Win: 7/2 = 22.2%
• Draw: 16/1 = 5.9%

The combined total of all three percentages equates to 113.8%.

You should Google this explanation to validate it for yourself, since most people don’t believe me anyway.

No but your wording if an 89% certantiy is wrong...

I know implied odds will add high, what I was doing is converting them to a more accurate true implied probablity. It's guess work but closer to the actual probable outcomes that those odds indicate.

I stand by the figures and my wording.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑05 Apr 2022, 04:33 According to PADDYPOWER, Gennadiy Golovkin is 89% certain of defeating Ryota Murata (1/8), with the underdog rated by betfair as having an 18% chance of victory (9/2).

The betting odds I’ve quoted for the Golovkin-Murata fight are pretty consistent for 25 bookmakers (as per the stats supplied by oddschecker).

Implied probability in sports betting is defined as, "a conversion of betting odds into a percentage taking into account the bookmaker margin to express the expected probability of an outcome occurring."

It's not worth arguing about, but you're welcome to rephrase my original quote into wording you personally deem to be more acceptable.

This is what you said:
"According to PADDYPOWER, Gennadiy Golovkin is 89% certain of defeating Ryota Murata (1/8), with the underdog rated by betfair as having an 18% chance of victory (9/2)."

now thats obviously nonsense, the probability of those things can not add to over 100%... you didnt say the implied probability, which is a specific term where probability can add to over 100%, because they include the bookies margin.

The number i gave you were my interpritation of what those odds indicate the actual chance of each outcome is. basicaly i took the implied probability and removed a guessed bookies margin to estimate what those odds actualy indicate the likelyhood of each outcome is....


I did once write "to imply probability" referring to what odds imply rather than the definition of "implied probability" which is actualy something else. thats kinda my bad, its not wrong, but its unclear i guess., i was drinking and playing poker at the time....

Is english a second language for you EO? you write well but i feel sometimes you miss interpret things. I use to get things a bit confused in spanish all the time, feel a bit of thats going on.

gregregegg wrote: ↑05 Apr 2022, 07:16Is english a second language for you EO?

Yes.

The undercard is not bad, Junto is a fun puncher, Ito/Yoshino promises fireworks. This, along with Inoue/Donaire II, Tenshin coming to the sport after facing Takeru, Ogawa/Cordina and Nietes/Ioka II, is going to be an awesome year for Japanese boxing.

Weigh-in alert: Gennadiy Golovkin 159.5 Ryota Murata 159.5