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$ involved, he'd have gone three divisions for this.

It really has the look of a cash out for Jermall.

Redback Rasta wrote: ↑30 Jun 2023, 22:17 The big question now is whether the WBO will elevate Tim Tszyu from Interim Champion to World Champion?

It won't be the way Tszyu wanted to gain the title though. He wanted Charlo and he wanted him bad.

He obviously wanted the Unidisputed.

It’s Tim’s fault..

He’s looks the beast recently.

Brute wrote: ↑01 Jul 2023, 00:16 It was Charlo's decision to try to jump two divisions to fight Canelo. That will be a hard ask.

Canelo has only lost two fights, one against Mayweather at Super Welter. Floyd still has not lost a fight and the other at Light Heavyweight against Bivol, also an unbeaten fighter.

It will be the other charlo fighting canelo.

Edit,
holy fornicate I’m seeing shit on it being mell…. Only thing I can see is there setting up the “brothers revenge” narrative which is crazy.
If it’s mell charlo it’s a pisstake.

gregregegg wrote: ↑01 Jul 2023, 05:35

Brute wrote: ↑01 Jul 2023, 00:16 It was Charlo's decision to try to jump two divisions to fight Canelo. That will be a hard ask.

Canelo has only lost two fights, one against Mayweather at Super Welter. Floyd still has not lost a fight and the other at Light Heavyweight against Bivol, also an unbeaten fighter.

It will be the other charlo fighting canelo.

Edit,
holy fornicate I’m seeing shit on it being mell…. Only thing I can see is there setting up the “brothers revenge” narrative which is crazy.
If it’s mell charlo it’s a pisstake.

Yes mate. It’s been announced

Boxing is a joke. Tszyu has got absolutely fucked here and wbo need to elevate him now. Not wait for this fight…

I also think the sanctioning body’s shouldn’t sanction the 168 belts for this. It’s a 154er at 168… that’s too much for me.

gregregegg wrote: ↑01 Jul 2023, 05:54 Boxing is a joke. Tszyu has got absolutely fucked here and wbo need to elevate him now. Not wait for this fight…

I also think the sanctioning body’s shouldn’t sanction the 168 belts for this. It’s a 154er at 168… that’s too much for me.

100% agree.

gregregegg wrote: ↑01 Jul 2023, 05:54 Boxing is a joke. Tszyu has got absolutely fucked here and wbo need to elevate him now. Not wait for this fight…

I also think the sanctioning body’s shouldn’t sanction the 168 belts for this. It’s a 154er at 168… that’s too much for me.

thats true but money talks and there are lots of fees

Its very fishy that Adames, Brian Mendoza and Tim Tszyu are just ignored as mandatory challengers. Even Bakhram Murtazaliev who is ranked no 1 by IBF at 154lbs is ignored. I mean Charlos must be very, very loved by these abc orgs or ..... ?

Tim Tszyu is the WBO Interim Super Welterweight Champion. Surely with Charlo moving up to a higher division, he should automatically become the full WBO champion.

he should but the sanctioning bodies seem to have raging throbbing veiny hard ons for the charlos

Brute wrote: ↑02 Jul 2023, 19:48 Tim Tszyu is the WBO Interim Super Welterweight Champion. Surely with Charlo moving up to a higher division, he should automatically become the full WBO champion.

If we weren't talking about boxing, I would say yeah, that should happen automatically. But boxing organizations just continue to astonish and disappoint, so I'm not holding my breath.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑02 Jul 2023, 20:11 he should but the sanctioning bodies seem to have raging throbbing veiny hard ons for the charlos

Isn't Charlo going to fight Canelo?

Jermell Charlo to be stripped of WBO title after fight with Canelo Alvarez, Tim Tszyu will be elevated

Jermell Charlo will be stripped of his WBO junior middleweight title, meaning his days as undisputed champion at 154 lbs are over — or, at least, they soon will be.

The WBO have ruled that Charlo “will be allowed to enter the ring as WBO champion and announced as such” for his fight with Canelo Alvarez on Sept. 30, which will take place at 168 lbs for Canelo’s undisputed title, and upon that official announcement that he does still hold the belt, he will be immediately stripped, with Tim Tszyu elevated from interim champion to full champion status.

This is sort of what we expected when Canelo vs Charlo was announced, that the sanctioning bodies would play ball with PBC and Showtime marketing “Undisputed vs Undisputed,” and then when it was over, Charlo would either be stripped of or vacate at least one or some of his junior middleweight belts in order to keep the fight’s marketing intact, but having it officially spelled out as exactly that in very drawn-out, legal terms is kind of funny, at least.

It also needs to be noted that if Canelo vs Charlo doesn’t take place on Sept. 30 — “for whatever reasons” — the WBO are still going to strip Charlo and Tszyu will be elevated to full title status.

So for all it matters, for all intents and purposes, Tim Tszyu is officially your WBO junior middleweight titleholder now. But not officially so until Sept. 30, or any time ahead of that if the Canelo vs Charlo bout is canceled or postponed.

You’ll recall that Charlo and Tszyu were meant to fight early this year, with the bout scrapped. Tszyu has been the WBO’s mandatory challenger for years at this point, and has held the interim belt since beating Tony Harrison on Mar. 12, following that up with a June 18 wipeout win over Carlos Ocampo, a defense of the interim belt.

Tszyu recently stated that Charlo should be stripped, and he’s basically getting his wish, and it’s the right decision.

No word yet on what the other sanctioning bodies will do, but since the Tszyu issue has been very public, the WBO probably felt the need to comment publicly. The other three — the WBC, WBA, and IBF — may simply wait until after the Canelo vs Charlo fight to see if Charlo would rather vacate than be stripped.

Charlo has not defended any of his titles or fought at all since beating Brian Castano in May 2022, which fully unified the 154 lb division.

Respect to the WBO.
WBO and IBF kinda become more legit then the WBA and WBC.

It's too bad we can't have a fight between the undisputed welterweight champion and the undisputed Super welterweight champion anymore.
He can go up to become Tims mandatory though, which is also not too bad.

Reading thats it WBO have now stripped him and named Tim there champ ,,, got to say though the sceptic in me now thinks , they will order him to defend his new belt , against whom , duno but the sceptic , see little green men under every bed , me , thinks Crawford gets made num 1 and mandatory , just don't believe there doing him any big favors after all this time

coneye wrote: ↑03 Aug 2023, 10:13 Reading thats it WBO have now stripped him and named Tim there champ ,,, got to say though the sceptic in me now thinks , they will order him to defend his new belt , against whom , duno but the sceptic , see little green men under every bed , me , thinks Crawford gets made num 1 and mandatory , just don't believe there doing him any big favors after all this time

They're waiting for the first bell to ring.

If they do it now, they can't sell it as Undisputed vs. Undisputed.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑03 Aug 2023, 10:48

coneye wrote: ↑03 Aug 2023, 10:13 Reading thats it WBO have now stripped him and named Tim there champ ,,, got to say though the sceptic in me now thinks , they will order him to defend his new belt , against whom , duno but the sceptic , see little green men under every bed , me , thinks Crawford gets made num 1 and mandatory , just don't believe there doing him any big favors after all this time

They're waiting for the first bell to ring.

If they do it now, they can't sell it as Undisputed vs. Undisputed.

See what happens , can't help but think Tim is being set up here , there so concerned now , but WHY did'nt they strip Charlo before ,