Deontay Wilder vs. Robert Helenius | FOX PPV - October 15, 2022

Who wins?

Poll ended at 15 Oct 2022, 08:58

Wilder - Decision
0
No votes
Wilder - T/KO
47
68%
DRAW
0
No votes
Helenius - T/KO
20
29%
Helenius - Decision
2
3%
 
Total votes: 69

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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Robert Helenius | FOX PPV - October 15, 2022

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Press Release | Undercard

Rising prospect Vito Mielnicki Jr. will return to action facing Limberth Ponce in an 8/10-round super welterweight showdown that headlines PBC Prelims on FS2 and FOX Deportes this Saturday, October 15 from Barclays Center in Brooklyn.

The FS2 telecast begins at 7 p.m. ET/4 p.m. PT and also features unbeaten top lightweight contender Michel Rivera battling California’s Jerry Pérez in an eight-round matchup, and undefeated heavyweight Gurgen Hovhannisyan in an eight-round showdown against Bronx-native Michael Coffie that kicks off the telecast.

Prelims will precede a FOX Sports PBC Pay-Per-View event at 9 p.m. ET/6 p.m. PT headlined by the return of boxing superstar and former longtime heavyweight world champion Deontay “The Bronze Bomber” Wilder as he takes on hard-hitting Robert “The Nordic Nightmare” Helenius in a WBC Heavyweight Title Eliminator.

Tickets for the event, which is promoted by BombZquad Promotions and TGB Promotions, are on sale now and can be purchased through seatgeek.com and barclayscenter.com. Tickets are also available for purchase in-person at the American Express Box Office at Barclays Center.

Representing Roseland, New Jersey, Mielnicki (12-1, 8 KOs) returns to fight at Barclays Center for the second-straight fight after stopping Jimmy Williams in six-rounds in July. The 20-year-old will look to add a third victory to his 2022 record, after kicking the year off with a unanimous decision over Dan Karpency in April. Mielnicki first turned heads during his exceptional amateur career where he compiled a 147-22 record and was named the Most Outstanding Boxer of the 2011 Junior National Golden Gloves, amongst many accolades before turning pro.

Born in Acapulco, Guerrero, Mexico, Ponce (19-5, 11 KOs) fights out of Rock Island, Illinois throughout his pro career that dates back to 2012. The 31-year-old won eight of nine fights before dropping a December 2021 bout against unbeaten Joey Spencer. Most recently, Ponce scored a unanimous decision over Ramiro Hernandez in May.

Born in Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic and now fighting out of Miami, Fla. Rivera (23-0, 14 KOs) burst onto the scene in 2019, making his U.S. debut with a victory over Rene Tellez Giron. The 24-year-old continued his ascent with five more victories in 2020 and 2021 including knockouts of Jon Fernandez and Anthony Mercado. Most recently Rivera dominated the previously unbeaten Joseph Adorno on his way to a unanimous decision in March.

Trained alongside four-division champion Leo Santa Cruz and his family, Pérez (14-1, 11 KOs) bounced back from an April 2021 defeat against top lightweight contender Frank Martin by knocking out Erick Lanzas Jr. in May. The 29-year-old from Oak Hills, California had put together a three-fight knockout streak heading into the Martin fight, which included a 2020 KO of then once-beaten Joshua Zuniga.

The 24-year-old Hovhannisyan (3-0, 3 KOs) has delivered three consecutive knockouts since turning pro in September 2021. Originally from Yerevan, Armenia, he now fights out of Los Angeles as he looks to bolster his heavyweight resume. Most recently, Hovhannisyan blasted out Jesse Bryan on his way to a second round knockout in May.

Coffie (13-2, 10 KOs) hopes to continue his climb back to contention after back-to-back defeats to Jonny Rice in July 2021 and January of this year. A Marine Corps veteran who picked up boxing after returning from overseas, Coffie quickly impressed in amateur tournaments enough to earn sparring assignments with Deontay Wilder and Adam Kownacki. He was born in the Bronx, but now trains in Orlando, Florida and most recently knocked out Fulgencio Zuniga in July.

The non-televised undercard lineup will include unbeaten super bantamweight prospects Michael Angeletti (6-0, 5 KOs) and Jeremy Adorno (7-0, 3 KOs) in a six-round showdown, welterweight prospect Keeshawn Williams (9-1-1, 2 KOs) in a six-round matchup against Julio Rosa (5-1, 2 KOs), Cuban heavyweight Geovany Bruzón (7-1, 6 KOs) battling the unbeaten James Evans Jr. (4-0-1, 6 KOs) in a four/six round bout and unbeaten super bantamweight prospect Miguel Román (2-0) taking on fellow unbeaten José Negrete (2-0, 2 KOs).
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Robert Helenius | FOX PPV - October 15, 2022

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People shît on Don King but even he put on better PPV’s in his day..

This card you can easily pick your winners.
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Robert Helenius | FOX PPV - October 15, 2022

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 11 Oct 2022, 17:26 People shît on Don King but even he put on better PPV’s in his day..

This card you can easily pick your winners.
Easy to stack a PPV when you're not paying anyone :lol:
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Robert Helenius | FOX PPV - October 15, 2022

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joshj909 wrote: 11 Oct 2022, 17:49
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 11 Oct 2022, 17:26 People shît on Don King but even he put on better PPV’s in his day..

This card you can easily pick your winners.
Easy to stack a PPV when you're not paying anyone :lol:
Classic :lol:
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Robert Helenius | FOX PPV - October 15, 2022

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Seriously though, that is some sh*tty ppv, even by this year's standards.
Wilder wasn't even ppv when he had the belt until he fought Fury.
Now he is two losses in a row, fighting a European level guy for a meaningless trinket, they think this is ppv.
I'm not even going to bother illegally streaming it :lol:
I might watch the highlight reel later on...
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Robert Helenius | FOX PPV - October 15, 2022

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 11 Oct 2022, 17:24 Press Release | Undercard

Rising prospect Vito Mielnicki Jr. will return to action facing Limberth Ponce in an 8/10-round super welterweight showdown that headlines PBC Prelims on FS2 and FOX Deportes this Saturday, October 15 from Barclays Center in Brooklyn.

The FS2 telecast begins at 7 p.m. ET/4 p.m. PT and also features unbeaten top lightweight contender Michel Rivera battling California’s Jerry Pérez in an eight-round matchup, and undefeated heavyweight Gurgen Hovhannisyan in an eight-round showdown against Bronx-native Michael Coffie that kicks off the telecast.

Prelims will precede a FOX Sports PBC Pay-Per-View event at 9 p.m. ET/6 p.m. PT headlined by the return of boxing superstar and former longtime heavyweight world champion Deontay “The Bronze Bomber” Wilder as he takes on hard-hitting Robert “The Nordic Nightmare” Helenius in a WBC Heavyweight Title Eliminator.

Tickets for the event, which is promoted by BombZquad Promotions and TGB Promotions, are on sale now and can be purchased through seatgeek.com and barclayscenter.com. Tickets are also available for purchase in-person at the American Express Box Office at Barclays Center.

Representing Roseland, New Jersey, Mielnicki (12-1, 8 KOs) returns to fight at Barclays Center for the second-straight fight after stopping Jimmy Williams in six-rounds in July. The 20-year-old will look to add a third victory to his 2022 record, after kicking the year off with a unanimous decision over Dan Karpency in April. Mielnicki first turned heads during his exceptional amateur career where he compiled a 147-22 record and was named the Most Outstanding Boxer of the 2011 Junior National Golden Gloves, amongst many accolades before turning pro.

Born in Acapulco, Guerrero, Mexico, Ponce (19-5, 11 KOs) fights out of Rock Island, Illinois throughout his pro career that dates back to 2012. The 31-year-old won eight of nine fights before dropping a December 2021 bout against unbeaten Joey Spencer. Most recently, Ponce scored a unanimous decision over Ramiro Hernandez in May.

Born in Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic and now fighting out of Miami, Fla. Rivera (23-0, 14 KOs) burst onto the scene in 2019, making his U.S. debut with a victory over Rene Tellez Giron. The 24-year-old continued his ascent with five more victories in 2020 and 2021 including knockouts of Jon Fernandez and Anthony Mercado. Most recently Rivera dominated the previously unbeaten Joseph Adorno on his way to a unanimous decision in March.

Trained alongside four-division champion Leo Santa Cruz and his family, Pérez (14-1, 11 KOs) bounced back from an April 2021 defeat against top lightweight contender Frank Martin by knocking out Erick Lanzas Jr. in May. The 29-year-old from Oak Hills, California had put together a three-fight knockout streak heading into the Martin fight, which included a 2020 KO of then once-beaten Joshua Zuniga.

The 24-year-old Hovhannisyan (3-0, 3 KOs) has delivered three consecutive knockouts since turning pro in September 2021. Originally from Yerevan, Armenia, he now fights out of Los Angeles as he looks to bolster his heavyweight resume. Most recently, Hovhannisyan blasted out Jesse Bryan on his way to a second round knockout in May.

Coffie (13-2, 10 KOs) hopes to continue his climb back to contention after back-to-back defeats to Jonny Rice in July 2021 and January of this year. A Marine Corps veteran who picked up boxing after returning from overseas, Coffie quickly impressed in amateur tournaments enough to earn sparring assignments with Deontay Wilder and Adam Kownacki. He was born in the Bronx, but now trains in Orlando, Florida and most recently knocked out Fulgencio Zuniga in July.

The non-televised undercard lineup will include unbeaten super bantamweight prospects Michael Angeletti (6-0, 5 KOs) and Jeremy Adorno (7-0, 3 KOs) in a six-round showdown, welterweight prospect Keeshawn Williams (9-1-1, 2 KOs) in a six-round matchup against Julio Rosa (5-1, 2 KOs), Cuban heavyweight Geovany Bruzón (7-1, 6 KOs) battling the unbeaten James Evans Jr. (4-0-1, 6 KOs) in a four/six round bout and unbeaten super bantamweight prospect Miguel Román (2-0) taking on fellow unbeaten José Negrete (2-0, 2 KOs).
this is worth saying again with the ppv being $75.00 every match on the card should be televised
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Robert Helenius | FOX PPV - October 15, 2022

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Malik Scott Says He’s “Not Interested In Wilder Fighting Andy Ruiz Or Frank Sanchez

Speaking with BBC Sport, Scott said he is “not interested is seeing Deontay fighting Andy Ruiz or Frank Sanchez – none of those guys.” Scott says it will be a massive fight for Wilder after he’s fought Helenius.

“It’s the second half of his career, he’s not in this for the money, but the fight he should take (next) is a high-profile, big-time fight,” Scott said. “It’d be Oleksandr Usyk or it’d be Anthony Joshua next. I’m not interested in Deontay fighting Andy Ruiz or Frank Sanchez – none of those guys. He wants to be undisputed heavyweight champion of the world.”
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Robert Helenius | FOX PPV - October 15, 2022

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Helenius is also number WBA #2. Will that bring Wilder to a sure spot for a title match against Usyk?
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Robert Helenius | FOX PPV - October 15, 2022

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 13 Oct 2022, 07:50 Malik Scott Says He’s “Not Interested In Wilder Fighting Andy Ruiz Or Frank Sanchez

Speaking with BBC Sport, Scott said he is “not interested is seeing Deontay fighting Andy Ruiz or Frank Sanchez – none of those guys.” Scott says it will be a massive fight for Wilder after he’s fought Helenius.

“It’s the second half of his career, he’s not in this for the money, but the fight he should take (next) is a high-profile, big-time fight,” Scott said. “It’d be Oleksandr Usyk or it’d be Anthony Joshua next. I’m not interested in Deontay fighting Andy Ruiz or Frank Sanchez – none of those guys. He wants to be undisputed heavyweight champion of the world.”
Usyk has called out Wilder so I assume that fight will be in February or March.
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Robert Helenius | FOX PPV - October 15, 2022

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Not looking good for Helenius who's already been knocked out by Gerald Washington just three years ago.

Wilder obliterated Washington in 2017.

Helenius has also lost a unanimous decision to Dillian Whyte and was stopped in six rounds by Johann Duhaupas, another fighter who was taken out by Wilder.

Not looking good for a Helenius win.

His only slim, some might say practically nonexistent chance, might be that the Fury beatings have permanently taken something out of Wilder.

I'm expecting Wilder to blast Helenius out somewhere during the middle rounds.

Maybe round 6.
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Robert Helenius | FOX PPV - October 15, 2022

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Thomastearns wrote: 13 Oct 2022, 13:13 Not looking good for Helenius who's already been knocked out by Gerald Washington just three years ago.

Wilder obliterated Washington in 2017.

Helenius has also lost a unanimous decision to Dillian Whyte and was stopped in six rounds by Johann Duhaupas, another fighter who was taken out by Wilder.

Not looking good for a Helenius win.

His only slim, some might say practically nonexistent chance, might be that the Fury beatings have permanently taken something out of Wilder.

I'm expecting Wilder to blast Helenius out somewhere during the middle rounds.

Maybe round 6.
Maybe earlier.
It's just a warm up fight for Wilder, and Helenius is perfect for him.
Some people might even pay to watch it.
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Robert Helenius | FOX PPV - October 15, 2022

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Australia makes me laugh..

$59.95 for this on KAYO..

Fackkk in ell..

https://mainevent.kayosports.com.au/box ... ign=launch
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Robert Helenius | FOX PPV - October 15, 2022

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Both have been removed from BoxRec.. I know they haven't fought since last year, but they're both scheduled to fight literally this weekend.. the inactivity clause kicked it on on the 9th October.
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Robert Helenius | FOX PPV - October 15, 2022

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 14 Oct 2022, 05:17 Australia makes me laugh..

$59.95 for this on KAYO..

Fackkk in ell..

https://mainevent.kayosports.com.au/box ... ign=launch
If you wernt a sly dawgggg streamer... AKA me, it would cost about 3 grand a year to follow boxing in aus. mabey more.
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Robert Helenius | FOX PPV - October 15, 2022

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gregregegg wrote: 14 Oct 2022, 05:33
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 14 Oct 2022, 05:17 Australia makes me laugh..

$59.95 for this on KAYO..

Fackkk in ell..

https://mainevent.kayosports.com.au/box ... ign=launch
If you wernt a sly dawgggg streamer... AKA me, it would cost about 3 grand a year to follow boxing in aus. mabey more.
And most of it isn't even primetime!! :oo
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Robert Helenius | FOX PPV - October 15, 2022

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 14 Oct 2022, 05:37
gregregegg wrote: 14 Oct 2022, 05:33
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 14 Oct 2022, 05:17 Australia makes me laugh..

$59.95 for this on KAYO..

Fackkk in ell..

https://mainevent.kayosports.com.au/box ... ign=launch
If you wernt a sly dawgggg streamer... AKA me, it would cost about 3 grand a year to follow boxing in aus. mabey more.
And most of it isn't even primetime!! :oo
the odd primetime show. fair bit of 7am sunday. and a fair bit of 3pm sunday.... Throw in the UFC and if you wanna keep track of combat sports you might have to start robbing banks...
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gregregegg wrote: 14 Oct 2022, 05:39
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 14 Oct 2022, 05:37
gregregegg wrote: 14 Oct 2022, 05:33

If you wernt a sly dawgggg streamer... AKA me, it would cost about 3 grand a year to follow boxing in aus. mabey more.
And most of it isn't even primetime!! :oo
the odd primetime show. fair bit of 7am sunday. and a fair bit of 3pm sunday.... Throw in the UFC and if you wanna keep track of combat sports you might have to start robbing banks...
I'm going to be around that timezone for most of next year and I only thought recently of how disrupted my sports watching schedule is going to be. Am I right in thinking that US boxing/UFC is 3pm, UK events are 7am and premier league would be in the middle of the night?
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Robert Helenius | FOX PPV - October 15, 2022

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Weigh in now
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Robert Helenius | FOX PPV - October 15, 2022

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helly 253
d 214.5

laid back weigh in, no antics for wilder. hand shake at the end
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Robert Helenius | FOX PPV - October 15, 2022

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margaret thatcher wrote: 14 Oct 2022, 11:25 helly 253
d 214.5
Back at the OG weight..
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Robert Helenius | FOX PPV - October 15, 2022

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Here are the weights:

Heavyweights – 12 Rounds
Deontay Wilder (42-2-1, 41 KOs), 214½ pounds vs. Robert Helenius (31-3, 20 KOs), 253¼ pounds

Super Middleweights – 12 Rounds
Caleb Plant (21-1, 12 KOs), 167¼ pounds vs. Anthony Dirrell (34-2-2, 25 KOs), 167¾ pounds

Heavyweights – 10 Rounds
Frank Sanchez (20-0, 13 KOs), 247¾ pounds vs. Carlos Negron (25-3, 20 KOs), 244½ pounds

Bantamweights – 12 Rounds
Gary Antonio Russell (19-0, 12 KOs), 116½ pounds vs. Emmanuel Rodriguez (20-2, 12 KOs), 117¾ pounds
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Robert Helenius | FOX PPV - October 15, 2022

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 14 Oct 2022, 11:27
margaret thatcher wrote: 14 Oct 2022, 11:25 helly 253
d 214.5
Back at the OG weight..
Have to be happy with that. :salut:
He looked in really great shape, and mood too. No over compensating, just professional.
It's been a pretty rough few years for the guy. And here he is, put in the hard yards in the gym and a nice tall tree in front of him to fell this weekend :lol:
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Robert Helenius | FOX PPV - October 15, 2022

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Very interesting to see how heli approaches this. I think he is too stiff and upright and hittable to fight at his prefered range. Heli likes fighting long but if he hangs out there pretty quickly i think he will find himself on the end of a 1-2 and taking a nap.

Can helly try get in close and have a little wrestle with wilder, hold some weight on him, mabey sneak acouple of shots behind the ear. make it rough.???

Should he just throw heat early and trade and hope he clips him first?

should he actualy try outbox him? very doable, till ya dinged, and i really cant see a world heli can go 12 without getting dinged.

Answers probably a combo... and the truth is all those stratergies likely still end with hele taking a nap... but whats his best bet?
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