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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Robert Helenius | FITE tv - 15 October 2022

Posted: 17 Oct 2022, 13:16
by Dioufy
margaret thatcher wrote: 17 Oct 2022, 13:13 that's my point...if light hitting gerry could ktfo helly with a right hand, it doesnt take a dive for long lanky d to flatten him quickly with one

admittedly it looked like a goofy shot, but it landed clean and he walked right onto it
So what’s ya point? I’m just saying that it’s not a dive. Pretty scary KO considering it was almost an arm punch.

No way he took a dive.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Robert Helenius | FITE tv - 15 October 2022

Posted: 17 Oct 2022, 13:19
by margaret thatcher
my point is that ppl shouldnt be shocked that a guy who was flattened by pillow hands gerry was flattened even faster by bomb hands dee

clearly, big rob dont like right hands

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Robert Helenius | FITE tv - 15 October 2022

Posted: 17 Oct 2022, 13:20
by Dioufy
margaret thatcher wrote: 17 Oct 2022, 13:19 my point is that ppl shouldnt be shocked that a guy who was flattened by pillow hands gerry was flattened even faster by bomb hands dee

clearly, big rob dont like right hands
Fair enough. I’ll let you off this time.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Robert Helenius | FITE tv - 15 October 2022

Posted: 17 Oct 2022, 14:04
by Wee Tommy
Wilders the biggest puncher of all time because he blew out fuckin Helenius?

Gies peace 🤯

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Robert Helenius | FITE tv - 15 October 2022

Posted: 17 Oct 2022, 14:33
by Dioufy
Wee Tommy wrote: 17 Oct 2022, 14:04 Wilders the biggest puncher of all time because he blew out fuckin Helenius?

Gies peace 🤯
Wow… calm ya tits…

He’s definitely up there. Look at the way he’s dispatched some of his opponents and for someone whose just over 15st to have the record he does (it might not be a whose who of ATGs but that’s boxing these days) says something for his power.

And try not to be silly, man. I in no way said he’s the biggest puncher of all time because he blew away Helenius… my opinion is based on just more than his last fight.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Robert Helenius | FITE tv - 15 October 2022

Posted: 17 Oct 2022, 14:54
by Wee Tommy
Dioufy wrote: 17 Oct 2022, 14:33
Wee Tommy wrote: 17 Oct 2022, 14:04 Wilders the biggest puncher of all time because he blew out fuckin Helenius?

Gies peace 🤯
Wow… calm ya tits…

He’s definitely up there. Look at the way he’s dispatched some of his opponents and for someone whose just over 15st to have the record he does (it might not be a whose who of ATGs but that’s boxing these days) says something for his power.

And try not to be silly, man. I in no way said he’s the biggest puncher of all time because he blew away Helenius… my opinion is based on just more than his last fight.
My post was in reply to earlier posts not yours man, so calm your own diddies.

There were some twitter posts a page or so back.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Robert Helenius | FITE tv - 15 October 2022

Posted: 17 Oct 2022, 15:05
by THEBUTCH
Phenomenal power from Wilder...again :oo

I can't believe anyone thinks Helenius was play acting :roll:

He walked forward chin first, with no defence into a fast right hand....game over :KO:

You only have to look at Helenius' eyes to see his brain is in orbit.

AJ v Wilder would be a big fight, especially in the UK :box:

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Robert Helenius | FITE tv - 15 October 2022

Posted: 17 Oct 2022, 15:35
by Dioufy
Wee Tommy wrote: 17 Oct 2022, 14:54
Dioufy wrote: 17 Oct 2022, 14:33
Wee Tommy wrote: 17 Oct 2022, 14:04 Wilders the biggest puncher of all time because he blew out fuckin Helenius?

Gies peace 🤯
Wow… calm ya tits…

He’s definitely up there. Look at the way he’s dispatched some of his opponents and for someone whose just over 15st to have the record he does (it might not be a whose who of ATGs but that’s boxing these days) says something for his power.

And try not to be silly, man. I in no way said he’s the biggest puncher of all time because he blew away Helenius… my opinion is based on just more than his last fight.
My post was in reply to earlier posts not yours man, so calm your own diddies.

There were some twitter posts a page or so back.
Ok my tits are calm. Apologies big man.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Robert Helenius | FITE tv - 15 October 2022

Posted: 17 Oct 2022, 15:42
by Wee Tommy
Dioufy wrote: 17 Oct 2022, 15:35
Wee Tommy wrote: 17 Oct 2022, 14:54
Dioufy wrote: 17 Oct 2022, 14:33

Wow… calm ya tits…

He’s definitely up there. Look at the way he’s dispatched some of his opponents and for someone whose just over 15st to have the record he does (it might not be a whose who of ATGs but that’s boxing these days) says something for his power.

And try not to be silly, man. I in no way said he’s the biggest puncher of all time because he blew away Helenius… my opinion is based on just more than his last fight.
My post was in reply to earlier posts not yours man, so calm your own diddies.

There were some twitter posts a page or so back.
Ok my tits are calm. Apologies big man.
My fault for not quoting the post on my phone.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Robert Helenius | FITE tv - 15 October 2022

Posted: 21 Oct 2022, 12:02
by GreenLightning
Reminder that Charlie Zelenoff took a flush punch from Wilder and stayed on his feet, and the next one that ended up knocking him down didn't even hurt him that bad, he got right back up and said he won because he hit wilder in the body and ran away

This is possibly the biggest puncher of all time?? Charlie Zelenoff actually is one of the toughest to ever lace them up if that's the case

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Robert Helenius | FITE tv - 15 October 2022

Posted: 21 Oct 2022, 12:08
by GreenLightning
Dioufy wrote: 17 Oct 2022, 14:33
Wee Tommy wrote: 17 Oct 2022, 14:04 Wilders the biggest puncher of all time because he blew out fuckin Helenius?

Gies peace 🤯
Wow… calm ya tits…

He’s definitely up there. Look at the way he’s dispatched some of his opponents and for someone whose just over 15st to have the record he does (it might not be a whose who of ATGs but that’s boxing these days) says something for his power.

And try not to be silly, man. I in no way said he’s the biggest puncher of all time because he blew away Helenius… my opinion is based on just more than his last fight.

Wilder never laid out Breazeale or Ortiz or even Audley Harrison, all of them were up by the end of the count, David Price in comparison laid Audley face first, Ruiz dropped Ortiz every time he touched him and Charles Martin dropped Ortiz heavy with a jab, Breazeale gets hurt by every punch that hits him

Oh, he laid out Artur Spzilka, who's been knocked out about 300 times

And an old Liakovich

For somebody who keeps talking about killing people with his power and leaving guys twitching, the only guy he's actually left twitching was Liakovich

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Robert Helenius | FITE tv - 15 October 2022

Posted: 21 Oct 2022, 12:12
by GreenLightning
Charles Martin hurt Gerald Washington more than Wilder did too

So it's a case of legitimate power and clever matchmaking, Wilder has never knocked out a fighter known for durability or a good chin, not one

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Robert Helenius | FITE tv - 15 October 2022

Posted: 21 Oct 2022, 12:14
by GreenLightning
All that aside though, the Helenius KO was legitimate, Helenius is fragile, the Malik Scott one was just a blatant dive

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Robert Helenius | FITE tv - 15 October 2022

Posted: 21 Oct 2022, 14:46
by Dioufy
GreenLightning wrote: 21 Oct 2022, 12:08
Dioufy wrote: 17 Oct 2022, 14:33
Wee Tommy wrote: 17 Oct 2022, 14:04 Wilders the biggest puncher of all time because he blew out fuckin Helenius?

Gies peace 🤯
Wow… calm ya tits…

He’s definitely up there. Look at the way he’s dispatched some of his opponents and for someone whose just over 15st to have the record he does (it might not be a whose who of ATGs but that’s boxing these days) says something for his power.

And try not to be silly, man. I in no way said he’s the biggest puncher of all time because he blew away Helenius… my opinion is based on just more than his last fight.

Wilder never laid out Breazeale or Ortiz or even Audley Harrison, all of them were up by the end of the count, David Price in comparison laid Audley face first, Ruiz dropped Ortiz every time he touched him and Charles Martin dropped Ortiz heavy with a jab, Breazeale gets hurt by every punch that hits him

Oh, he laid out Artur Spzilka, who's been knocked out about 300 times

And an old Liakovich

For somebody who keeps talking about killing people with his power and leaving guys twitching, the only guy he's actually left twitching was Liakovich
You lost me at “Wilder never laid out Ortiz” tbh.

One of the best punches of all time, baby!

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Robert Helenius | FITE tv - 15 October 2022

Posted: 21 Oct 2022, 15:05
by 1103924
Surely is he punched that hard, he would have knocked out artur szpilka and Doullasas in the first couple of rounds. How long do you think those two guys would have lasted against Mike Tyson, savers, Cooney, Dempsey, etc? David Tua would have absolutely slaughtered then..

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Robert Helenius | FITE tv - 15 October 2022

Posted: 21 Oct 2022, 15:25
by Dioufy
1103924 wrote: 21 Oct 2022, 15:05 Surely is he punched that hard, he would have knocked out artur szpilka and Doullasas in the first couple of rounds. How long do you think those two guys would have lasted against Mike Tyson, savers, Cooney, Dempsey, etc? David Tua would have absolutely slaughtered then..
Maybe because technically he’s one of the worst champions of all time… and he’s not very accurate to say the least.

If he catches you clean you’ll likely but knocked out.

He’s also only just over 15st. Not like he’s a 19st monster at all.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Robert Helenius | FITE tv - 15 October 2022

Posted: 21 Oct 2022, 15:50
by Controversial
1103924 wrote: 21 Oct 2022, 15:05 Surely is he punched that hard, he would have knocked out artur szpilka and Doullasas in the first couple of rounds. How long do you think those two guys would have lasted against Mike Tyson, savers, Cooney, Dempsey, etc? David Tua would have absolutely slaughtered then..
All big punchers have opponents they don’t stop, struggle with or lose to.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Robert Helenius | FITE tv - 15 October 2022

Posted: 21 Oct 2022, 16:07
by Boxerbeetle
Wilder’s definitely got a lot of power in his right hand, but he’s not in the ATG league at all. Imagine Liston / Tyson / Foreman against Wilder’s opposition, they’d all look fvcking super human.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Robert Helenius | FITE tv - 15 October 2022

Posted: 21 Oct 2022, 16:09
by margaret thatcher
fury and wilder, two heavyweight GOATS :yay:

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Robert Helenius | FITE tv - 15 October 2022

Posted: 21 Oct 2022, 16:24
by Dioufy
margaret thatcher wrote: 21 Oct 2022, 16:09 fury and wilder, two heavyweight GOATS :yay:
Wondered when you’d pop by. Wilder is in no way a GOAT and Tyson has been damaging his legacy since April.

Talent wise I still believe Fury to be all all time great of heavyweight boxing… although his resume can easily be picked at.

A peak Tyson Fury is a match for any heavyweight in history for me… with no where near the resume of others.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Robert Helenius | FITE tv - 15 October 2022

Posted: 21 Oct 2022, 16:25
by 1103924
Controversial wrote: 21 Oct 2022, 15:50
1103924 wrote: 21 Oct 2022, 15:05 Surely is he punched that hard, he would have knocked out artur szpilka and Doullasas in the first couple of rounds. How long do you think those two guys would have lasted against Mike Tyson, savers, Cooney, Dempsey, etc? David Tua would have absolutely slaughtered then..
All big punchers have opponents they don’t stop, struggle with or lose to.
Yep, just Wilder has more of 'em.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Robert Helenius | FITE tv - 15 October 2022

Posted: 21 Oct 2022, 16:32
by Dioufy
1103924 wrote: 21 Oct 2022, 16:25
Controversial wrote: 21 Oct 2022, 15:50
1103924 wrote: 21 Oct 2022, 15:05 Surely is he punched that hard, he would have knocked out artur szpilka and Doullasas in the first couple of rounds. How long do you think those two guys would have lasted against Mike Tyson, savers, Cooney, Dempsey, etc? David Tua would have absolutely slaughtered then..
All big punchers have opponents they don’t stop, struggle with or lose to.
Yep, just Wilder has more of 'em.
Stopped everyone he’s ever faced apart from Fury (4 KDs tho).

Wilder is technically atrocious but to me he’s one of the biggest punchers of all time.

One of.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Robert Helenius | FITE tv - 15 October 2022

Posted: 21 Oct 2022, 16:40
by 1103924
900% of his opponents were toilet

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Robert Helenius | FITE tv - 15 October 2022

Posted: 21 Oct 2022, 16:42
by Controversial
1103924 wrote: 21 Oct 2022, 16:25
Controversial wrote: 21 Oct 2022, 15:50
1103924 wrote: 21 Oct 2022, 15:05 Surely is he punched that hard, he would have knocked out artur szpilka and Doullasas in the first couple of rounds. How long do you think those two guys would have lasted against Mike Tyson, savers, Cooney, Dempsey, etc? David Tua would have absolutely slaughtered then..
All big punchers have opponents they don’t stop, struggle with or lose to.
Yep, just Wilder has more of 'em.
Because technically he isn’t great, he’s a one trick pony.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Robert Helenius | FITE tv - 15 October 2022

Posted: 21 Oct 2022, 16:43
by Dioufy
1103924 wrote: 21 Oct 2022, 16:40 900% of his opponents were toilet
So you don’t think he’s one of the biggest punchers in history?