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Re: Liam Smith vs. Chris Eubank Jr. II | Sky PPV - 17 June 2023
Posted: 25 Apr 2023, 14:43
by Coco
It's a good thing that Eubank is in denial as it will boost his confidence.
If a fighter as a negative mindset going into a fight it is already lost.
Half the battle when you are fighting is convincing yourself that you will win.
Having your head right is often more important than your physical shape.
Re: Liam Smith vs. Chris Eubank Jr. II | Sky PPV - 17 June 2023
Posted: 25 Apr 2023, 14:44
by maverick23
garethhop wrote: ↑25 Apr 2023, 13:47
Hearn said the money for this was going to be poor for Eubank.
Given they will do guaranteed 15,000+ sales and a couple of hundred thousand PPV buys, I'd love to know how many of his fighters will get better paid than Eubank and Smith will for this fight?
Not many but I’d also imagine it’d be a lot less than he’d have got either for the initial planned Benn fight or with a big site fee plus PPV I’m Abu Dhabi.
Eddie’s on one at the moment with Boxxer after the Okolie/Buatsi stuff. He’s an upfront prick with what he says. Bit like Warren is. I want to like Shalom but I’m finding it tough. I think he’s trying too hard to come across a certain way yet is coming across to me quite insincere with it.
I’m really starting to like George Warren. Seems a straight shooter and no-nonsense and is the only who’s actually trying to lead promoter discussions it seems.
Re: Liam Smith vs. Chris Eubank Jr. II | Sky PPV - 17 June 2023
Posted: 25 Apr 2023, 16:08
by Ruthless-RKO
Heffron no longer with Frank?
He’s a local lad so will help towards tickets.
Re: Liam Smith vs. Chris Eubank Jr. II | Sky PPV - 17 June 2023
Posted: 25 Apr 2023, 16:57
by KiwiRider
Sweet! A nice British title fight on the undercard of a great main event.
Tasty

Re: Liam Smith vs. Chris Eubank Jr. II | Sky PPV - 17 June 2023
Posted: 25 Apr 2023, 17:54
by garethhop
maverick23 wrote: ↑25 Apr 2023, 14:44
garethhop wrote: ↑25 Apr 2023, 13:47
Hearn said the money for this was going to be poor for Eubank.
Given they will do guaranteed 15,000+ sales and a couple of hundred thousand PPV buys, I'd love to know how many of his fighters will get better paid than Eubank and Smith will for this fight?
Not many but I’d also imagine it’d be a lot less than he’d have got either for the initial planned Benn fight or with a big site fee plus PPV I’m Abu Dhabi.
Eddie’s on one at the moment with Boxxer after the Okolie/Buatsi stuff. He’s an upfront prick with what he says. Bit like Warren is. I want to like Shalom but I’m finding it tough. I think he’s trying too hard to come across a certain way yet is coming across to me quite insincere with it.
I’m really starting to like George Warren. Seems a straight shooter and no-nonsense and is the only who’s actually trying to lead promoter discussions it seems.
Spot on re the promoters.
But the Abu Dhabi stuff was magic beans stuff just like the manny talk and the Wilder V Ruiz and Beterbiev V Bivol.
Re: Liam Smith vs. Chris Eubank Jr. II | Sky PPV - 17 June 2023
Posted: 26 Apr 2023, 01:30
by maverick23
garethhop wrote: ↑25 Apr 2023, 17:54
maverick23 wrote: ↑25 Apr 2023, 14:44
garethhop wrote: ↑25 Apr 2023, 13:47
Hearn said the money for this was going to be poor for Eubank.
Given they will do guaranteed 15,000+ sales and a couple of hundred thousand PPV buys, I'd love to know how many of his fighters will get better paid than Eubank and Smith will for this fight?
Not many but I’d also imagine it’d be a lot less than he’d have got either for the initial planned Benn fight or with a big site fee plus PPV I’m Abu Dhabi.
Eddie’s on one at the moment with Boxxer after the Okolie/Buatsi stuff. He’s an upfront prick with what he says. Bit like Warren is. I want to like Shalom but I’m finding it tough. I think he’s trying too hard to come across a certain way yet is coming across to me quite insincere with it.
I’m really starting to like George Warren. Seems a straight shooter and no-nonsense and is the only who’s actually trying to lead promoter discussions it seems.
Spot on re the promoters.
But the Abu Dhabi stuff was magic beans stuff just like the manny talk and the Wilder V Ruiz and Beterbiev V Bivol.
I’d be surprised if the Abu Dhabi stuff was complete rubbish but ultimately who knows. The Wilder/Ruiz was never going to happen as Wilder refuses to work with Eddie. Shame about Beterbiev/Bivol - would have been the only place to make the fight I think. It’s also a shame that it’s looking like Bivol will be sitting out 10 months.
Re: Liam Smith vs. Chris Eubank Jr. II | Sky PPV - 17 June 2023
Posted: 26 Apr 2023, 04:15
by bedreamin
Who does Conor Benn fight now?
Hearn already admitted that his return was more likely to get pushed back to late June (originally planned for June 3), but with Eubank now fighting Smith, and
Manny Pacquiao confirming he's returning in an exhibition in June, where does Benn go?
Surely he won't be fighting Pacquiao in an exhibition? Kell Brook?
Re: Liam Smith vs. Chris Eubank Jr. II | Sky PPV - 17 June 2023
Posted: 26 Apr 2023, 04:41
by ashall2
Coco wrote: ↑25 Apr 2023, 14:43
It's a good thing that Eubank is in denial as it will boost his confidence.
If a fighter as a negative mindset going into a fight it is already lost.
Half the battle when you are fighting is convincing yourself that you will win.
Having your head right is often more important than your physical shape.
Maybe but reminds me of Haye when he fought Bellew... 'just underestimated him, Achilles went' etc.
Re: Liam Smith vs. Chris Eubank Jr. II | Sky PPV - 17 June 2023
Posted: 26 Apr 2023, 04:42
by ashall2
maverick23 wrote: ↑25 Apr 2023, 14:44
garethhop wrote: ↑25 Apr 2023, 13:47
Hearn said the money for this was going to be poor for Eubank.
Given they will do guaranteed 15,000+ sales and a couple of hundred thousand PPV buys, I'd love to know how many of his fighters will get better paid than Eubank and Smith will for this fight?
I’m really starting to like George Warren. Seems a straight shooter and no-nonsense and is the only who’s actually trying to lead promoter discussions it seems.
Same. Don't mind Francis but George seems to have his head properly screwed on.
Re: Liam Smith vs. Chris Eubank Jr. II | Sky PPV - 17 June 2023
Posted: 26 Apr 2023, 04:48
by Ruthless-RKO
I read the first bout did more than 600k..
This was more than Khan-Brook.
Re: Liam Smith vs. Chris Eubank Jr. II | Sky PPV - 17 June 2023
Posted: 26 Apr 2023, 05:26
by maverick23
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑26 Apr 2023, 04:48
I read the first bout did more than 600k..
This was more than Khan-Brook.
The first fight did a little more than 200k buys per Shalom.
Re: Liam Smith vs. Chris Eubank Jr. II | Sky PPV - 17 June 2023
Posted: 26 Apr 2023, 05:52
by Ruthless-RKO
maverick23 wrote: ↑26 Apr 2023, 05:26
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑26 Apr 2023, 04:48
I read the first bout did more than 600k..
This was more than Khan-Brook.
The first fight did a little more than 200k buys per Shalom.
Ah yeh, you're right.
Re: Liam Smith vs. Chris Eubank Jr. II | Sky PPV - 17 June 2023
Posted: 26 Apr 2023, 06:04
by Manchester Hitman
bedreamin wrote: ↑26 Apr 2023, 04:15
Who does Conor Benn fight now?
Hearn already admitted that his return was more likely to get pushed back to late June (originally planned for June 3), but with Eubank now fighting Smith, and
Manny Pacquiao confirming he's returning in an exhibition in June, where does Benn go?
Surely he won't be fighting Pacquiao in an exhibition? Kell Brook?
Unless he’s going into Bare Knuckle or some kind of unlicensed boxing, Connor won’t be fighting anybody for the forceable future.
Re: Liam Smith vs. Chris Eubank Jr. II | Sky PPV - 17 June 2023
Posted: 26 Apr 2023, 06:24
by Spiker
I hope CEJ isn’t still being trained by Roy Jones. He needs someone that can tell him him to beat smith not someone who wants to morph someone into him. If CEJ does the same thing he’s done. Don’t think Jones can change him, in fact he’s gone down hill since being trained by RJJ
Re: Liam Smith vs. Chris Eubank Jr. II | Sky PPV - 17 June 2023
Posted: 26 Apr 2023, 06:41
by Ruthless-RKO
Spiker wrote: ↑26 Apr 2023, 06:24
I hope CEJ isn’t still being trained by Roy Jones. He needs someone that can tell him him to beat smith not someone who wants to morph someone into him. If CEJ does the same thing he’s done. Don’t think Jones can change him, in fact he’s gone down hill since being trained by RJJ
I think he did well with that guy who trained him for the DeGale fight.
Re: Liam Smith vs. Chris Eubank Jr. II | Sky PPV - 17 June 2023
Posted: 26 Apr 2023, 07:39
by garethhop
maverick23 wrote: ↑26 Apr 2023, 05:26
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑26 Apr 2023, 04:48
I read the first bout did more than 600k..
This was more than Khan-Brook.
The first fight did a little more than 200k buys per Shalom.
Just under 250k was the last number I saw after Shalom said over 200 but not 300, and Eddie said low 200s.

Re: Liam Smith vs. Chris Eubank Jr. II | Sky PPV - 17 June 2023
Posted: 26 Apr 2023, 07:49
by Ruthless-RKO
garethhop wrote: ↑26 Apr 2023, 07:39
maverick23 wrote: ↑26 Apr 2023, 05:26
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑26 Apr 2023, 04:48
I read the first bout did more than 600k..
This was more than Khan-Brook.
The first fight did a little more than 200k buys per Shalom.
Just under 250k was the last number I saw after Shalom said over 200 but not 300, and Eddie said low 200s.
Hearn actually praised the numbers.
Re: Liam Smith vs. Chris Eubank Jr. II | Sky PPV - 17 June 2023
Posted: 26 Apr 2023, 08:15
by coneye
garethhop wrote: ↑26 Apr 2023, 07:39
maverick23 wrote: ↑26 Apr 2023, 05:26
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑26 Apr 2023, 04:48
I read the first bout did more than 600k..
This was more than Khan-Brook.
The first fight did a little more than 200k buys per Shalom.
Just under 250k was the last number I saw after Shalom said over 200 but not 300, and Eddie said low 200s.
I don't usually buy them , because i simply don't think a lot are worth the money i enjoyed the last one while it lasted so looking forward to this one and i will buy it would'nt want a stream going down half way through ,, its a good fight
Re: Liam Smith vs. Chris Eubank Jr. II | Sky PPV - 17 June 2023
Posted: 26 Apr 2023, 09:18
by MasterG
If Eubank loses is this the end of the road for him?
Re: Liam Smith vs. Chris Eubank Jr. II | Sky PPV - 17 June 2023
Posted: 26 Apr 2023, 09:19
by Twinkle Toes
I don't see the PPV value in this fight at all. I didn't in the first either.
Two none title holders fighting under the PPV banner after the first fight was as conclusive as it was doesn't bode well for the sort of fights you are going to get on SKY PPV in the future. Looks desperate to me.
Lap it up at a cost to your wallet.
Re: Liam Smith vs. Chris Eubank Jr. II | Sky PPV - 17 June 2023
Posted: 26 Apr 2023, 10:10
by black panther
MasterG wrote: ↑26 Apr 2023, 09:18
If Eubank loses is this the end of the road for him?
It's somewhat already the end for him in my opinion. Takes some blinders from a big punching SM in Groves without too much trouble but is completely gone from career LM and spiteful but not a huge puncher in Smith.
He's at the end of the road and cashing in. Shame though I feel the Eubank who fought Yildirim and Groves would have had the beating of the likes of Smith. He used to plant his feet and do very well against come forward types.
Re: Liam Smith vs. Chris Eubank Jr. II | Sky PPV - 17 June 2023
Posted: 26 Apr 2023, 10:20
by Glass Joe
Tell how bad woman's boxing is if you took the belts of Franchon Crews Dezurn, we would they just see an 8-1 fighter and say its a warm up fight for Marshall.
Re: Liam Smith vs. Chris Eubank Jr. II | Sky PPV - 17 June 2023
Posted: 26 Apr 2023, 10:41
by matt3m
Briedis may be featuring on this card too.
Kalle hinted at it in
this video
Re: Liam Smith vs. Chris Eubank Jr. II | Sky PPV - 17 June 2023
Posted: 26 Apr 2023, 11:05
by Frostieballs
MasterG wrote: ↑26 Apr 2023, 09:18
If Eubank loses is this the end of the road for him?
I think the Benn fight is always there.
Re: Liam Smith vs. Chris Eubank Jr. II | Sky PPV - 17 June 2023
Posted: 26 Apr 2023, 11:14
by Ruthless-RKO
Frostieballs wrote: ↑26 Apr 2023, 11:05
MasterG wrote: ↑26 Apr 2023, 09:18
If Eubank loses is this the end of the road for him?
I think the Benn fight is always there.
Same..