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The Gratest wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 04:08 When all else fails, mention AJ.

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 04:33

The Gratest wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 04:08 When all else fails, mention AJ.

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 04:33

The Gratest wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 04:08 When all else fails, mention AJ.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 06:05

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 04:33

The Gratest wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 04:08 When all else fails, mention AJ.

I don’t think Tony can help it, lads. Anyway, he is still relevant in a few peoples eyes so he will be mentioned a lot if Fury faces Ruiz.

tonyevs wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 03:29 Yes - Ruiz v Wilder would have been far more interesting. It would have, potentially, shown us what Wilder can do .. at present most view him as just a crude big puncher with little boxing ability. If Ruiz comes in so-so shape that could be confirmed or rubbished it.
What we know is AJ easily outboxed Ruiz. the much taller and physically bigger Fury is very likely to just as easily outbox Ruiz in a bore-fest.

Nobody expects Fury to face a risky challenge with the Saudi double header being touted .. however it's been over a year since Fury fought the shell of Whyte (not that it was certain beforehand) and almost 2 years since his last competitive fight

Fury's fight record is not gonna age well - at the moment he is comparable to Valuevs I'd say .. about as popular now too

mickey1975 wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 03:30

tonyevs wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 02:33 Ruiz apparently confirmed I read

The softest defence they could sell by looks. Literally living off the 1 good result years ago in Ruiz's whole career .. and no mention he was so easily outboxed by AJ straight after that it convinced him he was a master boxer


Very poor match up as expected.

When was AJ’s last good result? Most people would say Wlad six years ago. What would you say?

mickey1975 wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 06:05

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 04:33

The Gratest wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 04:08 When all else fails, mention AJ.

I don’t think Tony can help it, lads. Anyway, he is still relevant in a few peoples eyes so he will be mentioned a lot if Fury faces Ruiz.

tonyevs wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 09:33

mickey1975 wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 03:30

tonyevs wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 02:33 Ruiz apparently confirmed I read

The softest defence they could sell by looks. Literally living off the 1 good result years ago in Ruiz's whole career .. and no mention he was so easily outboxed by AJ straight after that it convinced him he was a master boxer


Very poor match up as expected.

When was AJ’s last good result? Most people would say Wlad six years ago. What would you say?

His last good result was his last fight, less than a month ago .. a win is always a good result in boxing

His last good performance? that was last August against Usyk. He fought better than the first, and the fact he lost the decision to a better opponent doesn`t detract from a good performance by him. Usyk was simply a better fighter - good enough to convince Fury not to fight him anyways

tonyevs wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 09:33

mickey1975 wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 03:30

tonyevs wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 02:33 Ruiz apparently confirmed I read

The softest defence they could sell by looks. Literally living off the 1 good result years ago in Ruiz's whole career .. and no mention he was so easily outboxed by AJ straight after that it convinced him he was a master boxer


Very poor match up as expected.

When was AJ’s last good result? Most people would say Wlad six years ago. What would you say?

His last good result was his last fight, less than a month ago .. a win is always a good result in boxing

His last good performance? that was last August against Usyk. He fought better than the first, and the fact he lost the decision to a better opponent doesn`t detract from a good performance by him. Usyk was simply a better fighter - good enough to convince Fury not to fight him anyways

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 12:29

tonyevs wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 09:33

mickey1975 wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 03:30
When was AJ’s last good result? Most people would say Wlad six years ago. What would you say?

His last good result was his last fight, less than a month ago .. a win is always a good result in boxing

His last good performance? that was last August against Usyk. He fought better than the first, and the fact he lost the decision to a better opponent doesn`t detract from a good performance by him. Usyk was simply a better fighter - good enough to convince Fury not to fight him anyways

LMAO at the fake ‘AJ did much better the second time’ against Usyk… he arguably lost 11 rounds and that fake media narrative is only pushed because of the biased commentary, the crooked scorecards and Spencer Oliver cringe post fight pep talk…:

Frostieballs wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 12:41

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 12:29

tonyevs wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 09:33

His last good result was his last fight, less than a month ago .. a win is always a good result in boxing

His last good performance? that was last August against Usyk. He fought better than the first, and the fact he lost the decision to a better opponent doesn`t detract from a good performance by him. Usyk was simply a better fighter - good enough to convince Fury not to fight him anyways

LMAO at the fake ‘AJ did much better the second time’ against Usyk… he arguably lost 11 rounds and that fake media narrative is only pushed because of the biased commentary, the crooked scorecards and Spencer Oliver cringe post fight pep talk…:

Nah - he defo did OK/better

tonyevs wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 13:37 AJ actually managed to put Usyk under some sort of pressure and looking uncomfortable in the 2nd fight .. certainly didn't manage to do that in 12rnds in the first fight. That was definitely an improvement.

He was soundly beaten on both occasions. But Usyk is clearly a better boxer than AJ .. so AJ could potentially fight him again (as may happen if the Saudi double header goes ahead) and improve more .. and still be soundly beaten for a 3rd time by Usyk. Usyk is just better.

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 13:45

tonyevs wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 13:37 AJ actually managed to put Usyk under some sort of pressure and looking uncomfortable in the 2nd fight .. certainly didn't manage to do that in 12rnds in the first fight. That was definitely an improvement.

He was soundly beaten on both occasions. But Usyk is clearly a better boxer than AJ .. so AJ could potentially fight him again (as may happen if the Saudi double header goes ahead) and improve more .. and still be soundly beaten for a 3rd time by Usyk. Usyk is just better.

Lol at ‘AJ put Usyk under pressure’ in the second fight. That’s the fake narrative of the 9th round Joshua tried to throw a few body shots all of which were blocked. Joshua landed one more punch in the entire fight…. If that is the definition of putting on additional pressure then you can say Floyd Patterson put more pressure on Liston in their second fight…. Meanwhile Usyk landed 22 times the number of additional punches so it sounds like the ‘extra pressure’ was very ineffective

tonyevs wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 14:37 Its there on YouTube mate - its clear he did better 2nd time around.

Ignoring the score cards - AJ was able to put more pressure on Usyk, and wasn`t looking as vulnerable in the 2nd fight as the 1st. Those are improvements .. that he still didn`t win is missing the point - Aj just does not have the skills to beat Usyk.

So you think he did worse? or exactly the same??

oogiebe wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 14:22

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 13:45

tonyevs wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 13:37 AJ actually managed to put Usyk under some sort of pressure and looking uncomfortable in the 2nd fight .. certainly didn't manage to do that in 12rnds in the first fight. That was definitely an improvement.

He was soundly beaten on both occasions. But Usyk is clearly a better boxer than AJ .. so AJ could potentially fight him again (as may happen if the Saudi double header goes ahead) and improve more .. and still be soundly beaten for a 3rd time by Usyk. Usyk is just better.

Lol at ‘AJ put Usyk under pressure’ in the second fight. That’s the fake narrative of the 9th round Joshua tried to throw a few body shots all of which were blocked. Joshua landed one more punch in the entire fight…. If that is the definition of putting on additional pressure then you can say Floyd Patterson put more pressure on Liston in their second fight…. Meanwhile Usyk landed 22 times the number of additional punches so it sounds like the ‘extra pressure’ was very ineffective

AJ fanbois. Gotta love them.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 16:09

oogiebe wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 14:22

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 13:45

Lol at ‘AJ put Usyk under pressure’ in the second fight. That’s the fake narrative of the 9th round Joshua tried to throw a few body shots all of which were blocked. Joshua landed one more punch in the entire fight…. If that is the definition of putting on additional pressure then you can say Floyd Patterson put more pressure on Liston in their second fight…. Meanwhile Usyk landed 22 times the number of additional punches so it sounds like the ‘extra pressure’ was very ineffective

AJ fanbois. Gotta love them.

i dont think saying aj put him under more pressure in fight 2 is really fanboi level tbh, did he have a round in the first fight as good as the ninth in the second? even though usyk always had things under control and won clearly i think josh did a bit better in fight 2, not remarkably better but better nonetheless

if someone is saying aj won fight 2 or had usyk ready to go........well then yes that is nutty

oogiebe wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 16:23

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 16:09

oogiebe wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 14:22
AJ fanbois. Gotta love them.

i dont think saying aj put him under more pressure in fight 2 is really fanboi level tbh, did he have a round in the first fight as good as the ninth in the second? even though usyk always had things under control and won clearly i think josh did a bit better in fight 2, not remarkably better but better nonetheless

if someone is saying aj won fight 2 or had usyk ready to go........well then yes that is nutty

So maybe that is doing better.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 16:24

oogiebe wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 16:23

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 16:09

i dont think saying aj put him under more pressure in fight 2 is really fanboi level tbh, did he have a round in the first fight as good as the ninth in the second? even though usyk always had things under control and won clearly i think josh did a bit better in fight 2, not remarkably better but better nonetheless

if someone is saying aj won fight 2 or had usyk ready to go........well then yes that is nutty

So maybe that is doing better.

there ya go, ya fanboi

oogiebe wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 16:23

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 16:09

oogiebe wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 14:22
AJ fanbois. Gotta love them.

i dont think saying aj put him under more pressure in fight 2 is really fanboi level tbh, did he have a round in the first fight as good as the ninth in the second? even though usyk always had things under control and won clearly i think josh did a bit better in fight 2, not remarkably better but better nonetheless

if someone is saying aj won fight 2 or had usyk ready to go........well then yes that is nutty

Knew you'd chime in on that post Jammy.
Whether he did or didn't do better has no impact on the outcome. Fanbois like to say those things. Dude lost. It wasn't close. Only diff was Usyk didn't have him as hurt as he did in the first fight. So maybe that is doing better.