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Re: Round-by-Round: Michael Conlan vs. Jordan Gill | DAZN - 2 December 2023
Posted: 02 Dec 2023, 18:37
by skanksta
NazNaci1 wrote: ↑02 Dec 2023, 18:29
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑02 Dec 2023, 18:27
NazNaci1 wrote: ↑02 Dec 2023, 18:12
McKenna is proving durable but Crocker's power is overrated. Loading up way too much but winning comfortably.
he's not really a ko artist anyway. usually boxes and moves and counterpunches, with heavy hands that will hurt guys on the counter, but not blast em out power . in this case though mckenna was so stationary he just decide to dig in
Fair enough and I understand about being marketable
but trying hard for the KO, inevitably to KO never comes.
Yeah this.
Crock's power is clearly very good - I'm sure he'll get KOs at high level.
Just McKenna really tough, game and experienced enough to fiddle and see it coming and make it to the end.
Maybe not that explosive, but obviously very heavy handed.
Re: Round-by-Round: Michael Conlan vs. Jordan Gill | DAZN - 2 December 2023
Posted: 02 Dec 2023, 18:37
by Noxy
NazNaci1 wrote: ↑02 Dec 2023, 18:29
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑02 Dec 2023, 18:27
NazNaci1 wrote: ↑02 Dec 2023, 18:12
McKenna is proving durable but Crocker's power is overrated. Loading up way too much but winning comfortably.
he's not really a ko artist anyway. usually boxes and moves and counterpunches, with heavy hands that will hurt guys on the counter, but not blast em out power . in this case though mckenna was so stationary he just decide to dig in
Fair enough and I understand about being marketable but trying hard for the KO, inevitably to KO never comes.
Yep, he bossed that fight. But he was trying too hard and it didn't happen for him. Plus all the raving about his power - mainly from his coach in fairness - is getting boring. He's good but no need to overegg it.
Re: Round-by-Round: Michael Conlan vs. Jordan Gill | DAZN - 2 December 2023
Posted: 02 Dec 2023, 18:39
by margaret thatcher
the power is the wrong thing to focus on with him. it's the whole athletic package. he has heavy hands but his power comes through most by catching guys with sharp counters, hurting them over the rounds. he's not some tua or wilder guy who just impales guys
Re: Round-by-Round: Michael Conlan vs. Jordan Gill | DAZN - 2 December 2023
Posted: 02 Dec 2023, 18:40
by jameswilson
Conlan’s nicked the material for his robe from the local Indian restaurant.
Re: Round-by-Round: Michael Conlan vs. Jordan Gill | DAZN - 2 December 2023
Posted: 02 Dec 2023, 18:41
by jameswilson
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑02 Dec 2023, 18:39
the power is the wrong thing to focus on with him. it's the whole athletic package. he has heavy hands but his power comes through most by catching guys with sharp counters, hurting them over the rounds. he's not some tua or wilder guy who just impales guys
I’m amazed you think he has power after that. He threw the kitchen sink at a guy of McKenna’s level and couldn’t put him on the floor let alone come close to stop him.
Re: Round-by-Round: Michael Conlan vs. Jordan Gill | DAZN - 2 December 2023
Posted: 02 Dec 2023, 18:42
by jwfg
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑02 Dec 2023, 18:37
is jordan banjo a dancer or just his bro? can you even dance when you're 8 feet tall 500 pounds?
I mean, he's handsome, but he's no Laura Woods.
Re: Round-by-Round: Michael Conlan vs. Jordan Gill | DAZN - 2 December 2023
Posted: 02 Dec 2023, 18:44
by margaret thatcher
jameswilson wrote: ↑02 Dec 2023, 18:41
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑02 Dec 2023, 18:39
the power is the wrong thing to focus on with him. it's the whole athletic package. he has heavy hands but his power comes through most by catching guys with sharp counters, hurting them over the rounds. he's not some tua or wilder guy who just impales guys
I’m amazed you think he has power after that. He threw the kitchen sink at a guy of McKenna’s level and couldn’t put him on the floor let alone come close to stop him.
mckenna is a tough guy, can take a good beating. on the counter crocker can hurt opponents pretty good. a tough gritty guy like louis greene was turned to putty
it's pretty common to see these fights where a hard hitting guy just beats on a passive opponent an cant get him out. callum smith vs vadine biosse for example. wilder coudnt drop duhaupas. beterbiev barely got enrico kolling out of there, etc.
Re: Round-by-Round: Michael Conlan vs. Jordan Gill | DAZN - 2 December 2023
Posted: 02 Dec 2023, 18:45
by jameswilson
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑02 Dec 2023, 18:44
jameswilson wrote: ↑02 Dec 2023, 18:41
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑02 Dec 2023, 18:39
the power is the wrong thing to focus on with him. it's the whole athletic package. he has heavy hands but his power comes through most by catching guys with sharp counters, hurting them over the rounds. he's not some tua or wilder guy who just impales guys
I’m amazed you think he has power after that. He threw the kitchen sink at a guy of McKenna’s level and couldn’t put him on the floor let alone come close to stop him.
mckenna is a tough guy, can take a good beating. on the counter crocker can hurt opponents pretty good. a tough gritty guy like louis greene was turned to putty
it's pretty common to see these fights where a hard hitting guy just beats on a passive opponent an cant get him out. callum smith vs vadine biosse for example. wilder coudnt drop duhaupas. beterbiev barely got enrico kolling out of there, etc.
Good points. I’m reserving judgement on his power for now tho.
Re: Round-by-Round: Michael Conlan vs. Jordan Gill | DAZN - 2 December 2023
Posted: 02 Dec 2023, 18:47
by margaret thatcher
harry scarf might be interesting for croc, on a roll since moving to 147
Re: Round-by-Round: Michael Conlan vs. Jordan Gill | DAZN - 2 December 2023
Posted: 02 Dec 2023, 18:51
by margaret thatcher
mic bloody nose already......
Re: Round-by-Round: Michael Conlan vs. Jordan Gill | DAZN - 2 December 2023
Posted: 02 Dec 2023, 18:52
by margaret thatcher
solid first round, mic digging in nice with body shots at the end, but gill landed some good punches and bloodied mick's nose
Re: Round-by-Round: Michael Conlan vs. Jordan Gill | DAZN - 2 December 2023
Posted: 02 Dec 2023, 18:52
by NazNaci1
Gill looks tight and compacted. Decent punching power. Conlan looks a bit nervous and jumpy.
Re: Round-by-Round: Michael Conlan vs. Jordan Gill | DAZN - 2 December 2023
Posted: 02 Dec 2023, 18:53
by jameswilson
Conlan down and hurt bad I think.
A minute left and he is clinging on a bit.
Re: Round-by-Round: Michael Conlan vs. Jordan Gill | DAZN - 2 December 2023
Posted: 02 Dec 2023, 18:53
by margaret thatcher
conlan down!!
Re: Round-by-Round: Michael Conlan vs. Jordan Gill | DAZN - 2 December 2023
Posted: 02 Dec 2023, 18:54
by jameswilson
Gill needs to try and not punch himself out. Be smart.
Re: Round-by-Round: Michael Conlan vs. Jordan Gill | DAZN - 2 December 2023
Posted: 02 Dec 2023, 18:56
by girv
Conlan looks very vulnerable in there.
Re: Round-by-Round: Michael Conlan vs. Jordan Gill | DAZN - 2 December 2023
Posted: 02 Dec 2023, 18:56
by margaret thatcher
conlan survives the round and fights back at the end. can he turn it around? or is the chin just not there...
Re: Round-by-Round: Michael Conlan vs. Jordan Gill | DAZN - 2 December 2023
Posted: 02 Dec 2023, 18:56
by NazNaci1
Gill looks too powerful.
Re: Round-by-Round: Michael Conlan vs. Jordan Gill | DAZN - 2 December 2023
Posted: 02 Dec 2023, 18:57
by margaret thatcher
but look at all the guys who took gill the distance, how could he be powerful
Re: Round-by-Round: Michael Conlan vs. Jordan Gill | DAZN - 2 December 2023
Posted: 02 Dec 2023, 18:59
by jwfg
It's the brandy talking, but Conlan is going to win this by stoppage
Re: Round-by-Round: Michael Conlan vs. Jordan Gill | DAZN - 2 December 2023
Posted: 02 Dec 2023, 19:00
by margaret thatcher
good fight! con fighting back hard, but still looks like he could be marmalized at any time
Re: Round-by-Round: Michael Conlan vs. Jordan Gill | DAZN - 2 December 2023
Posted: 02 Dec 2023, 19:00
by NazNaci1
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑02 Dec 2023, 18:57
but look at all the guys who took gill the distance, how could he be powerful
Dunno mate. Dropped and rocked him hard a few times already. You tell me.
Re: Round-by-Round: Michael Conlan vs. Jordan Gill | DAZN - 2 December 2023
Posted: 02 Dec 2023, 19:04
by margaret thatcher
good fight
conlan winning good stretches, but still looks very vulnerable whenever gill opens up
Re: Round-by-Round: Michael Conlan vs. Jordan Gill | DAZN - 2 December 2023
Posted: 02 Dec 2023, 19:04
by NazNaci1
One can take the power, the other can't.
Re: Round-by-Round: Michael Conlan vs. Jordan Gill | DAZN - 2 December 2023
Posted: 02 Dec 2023, 19:08
by margaret thatcher
jordan needs to get his hands moving more often