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Re: Round-by-Round: Joe Joyce vs. Derek Chisora | TNT Sports - 24th July 2024

Posted: 28 Jul 2024, 07:50
by joshj909
chinarich wrote: 28 Jul 2024, 07:42 Chisora said a short while ago he wanted to get to 50 fights and then retire. Happy to see him get the win and would be best as others have said for him to finish on a win. I don’t think the money there for him to fight either Fisher or Itauma, I can’t see it matching his usual paydays.
I can imagine at least one of the remaining fights being against the likes of Wallin, Wilder, Ortiz, Bakole, Hrgovic, Wardley/Clarke, Miller.

Re: Round-by-Round: Joe Joyce vs. Derek Chisora | TNT Sports - 24th July 2024

Posted: 28 Jul 2024, 07:56
by mickey1975
veriton wrote: 28 Jul 2024, 07:30
mickey1975 wrote: 28 Jul 2024, 03:50
veriton wrote: 28 Jul 2024, 03:32 I'd love to see Fisher against Chisora. As Wardley said last night, Chisora is not going to get to world level again so needs to think carefully. The Fisher fight would be a huge seller between two crowd favourites.
Joyce was world level.
Before the first zhang fight, yes. But he had it punched out of him by big bang, particularly in the rematch. Joyce is not world level now, no one who eats right hands like that has any business near the top of the game
I'd have him in the level below the big two, those who've lost a few, even been stopped by each other, Parker, AJ, Herg, Whyte, Dubois, etc.

Re: Round-by-Round: Joe Joyce vs. Derek Chisora | TNT Sports - 24th July 2024

Posted: 28 Jul 2024, 08:01
by Coco
Both Joyce and Chisora can get good work as opponents.

I think Chisora has earned really well and can do what he wants, I hope JJ has earned retirement money

Re: Round-by-Round: Joe Joyce vs. Derek Chisora | TNT Sports - 24th July 2024

Posted: 28 Jul 2024, 08:30
by mickey1975
Coco wrote: 28 Jul 2024, 08:01 Both Joyce and Chisora can get good work as opponents.

I think Chisora has earned really well and can do what he wants, I hope JJ has earned retirement money
His manager said on Twitter that he was a multi millionaire.

Re: Round-by-Round: Joe Joyce vs. Derek Chisora | TNT Sports - 24th July 2024

Posted: 28 Jul 2024, 09:11
by tigermoth87
Joyce is gash isn't he?

Another British bum. What is it with Brits loving to hype up their heavyweight fighters as world beaters only to see them get exposed--David Price, Daniel Dubois, Freddie Flintoff, Dyllian Whyte, Joe Joyce ...

Re: Round-by-Round: Joe Joyce vs. Derek Chisora | TNT Sports - 24th July 2024

Posted: 28 Jul 2024, 09:24
by mickey1975
tigermoth87 wrote: 28 Jul 2024, 09:11 Joyce is gash isn't he?

Another British bum. What is it with Brits loving to hype up their heavyweight fighters as world beaters only to see them get exposed--David Price, Daniel Dubois, Freddie Flintoff, Dyllian Whyte, Joe Joyce ...
The same as every other country?

Re: Round-by-Round: Joe Joyce vs. Derek Chisora | TNT Sports - 24th July 2024

Posted: 28 Jul 2024, 09:32
by The Gratest
Nightmare Roy wrote: 28 Jul 2024, 07:07
joshj909 wrote: 28 Jul 2024, 03:52
mickey1975 wrote: 27 Jul 2024, 18:10 It's amazing to think that, only a few years ago, most had Del beating Usyk.
I hope this is you fishing for a bite :lol:
Ofcourse it is :lol:
:lol:

Re: Round-by-Round: Joe Joyce vs. Derek Chisora | TNT Sports - 24th July 2024

Posted: 28 Jul 2024, 09:50
by The Gratest
The Brit fans love the undisputed legend. The Man :salut:

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1Kojax73dSpwnCH5/

Re: Round-by-Round: Joe Joyce vs. Derek Chisora | TNT Sports - 24th July 2024

Posted: 28 Jul 2024, 10:20
by tony1234
MightyWarrior wrote: 27 Jul 2024, 18:36 Really dim commentator carl has been lumbered with tonight, he’s done well to support him through the evening
Tim Capel, usually does the European football and stuff. Woodhall, Bunce and the others must all be at the Olympics.

I can't see the point of Joyce fighting again but at this stage even British level and Wardley would be beyond him. Chisora will get badly hurt if he does carry on especially against a live opponent.

Re: Round-by-Round: Joe Joyce vs. Derek Chisora | TNT Sports - 24th July 2024

Posted: 28 Jul 2024, 10:24
by Ruthless-RKO
mickey1975 wrote: 28 Jul 2024, 09:24
tigermoth87 wrote: 28 Jul 2024, 09:11 Joyce is gash isn't he?

Another British bum. What is it with Brits loving to hype up their heavyweight fighters as world beaters only to see them get exposed--David Price, Daniel Dubois, Freddie Flintoff, Dyllian Whyte, Joe Joyce ...
The same as every other country?
He put Freddie Flintoff on the list 😭😭😭😭

Re: Round-by-Round: Joe Joyce vs. Derek Chisora | TNT Sports - 24th July 2024

Posted: 28 Jul 2024, 10:49
by wrighty
rd350lc wrote: 28 Jul 2024, 01:39
wrighty wrote: 27 Jul 2024, 19:54 I would like to see both blokes leave it now. British, commonwealth and European for Joyce as well as the interim world title is a good career, Chisora has been thrills and spills and won some straps as well as banking millions on the way. My mate thought Derek looked really bad in the last 2 rounds
Just the last 2 rounds ?
He looked awful all the way though, gasping for air.
He took his fair share of punishment in that slugfest too .
Yes , you're right , he should have packed it in before now .
Like neurologically, he wasn't facing or even looking at Joyce, his eyes looked gone and he looked all over the place. My friend picked it up too

Re: Round-by-Round: Joe Joyce vs. Derek Chisora | TNT Sports - 24th July 2024

Posted: 28 Jul 2024, 11:58
by SeanBrennan
mickey1975 wrote: 28 Jul 2024, 08:30
Coco wrote: 28 Jul 2024, 08:01 Both Joyce and Chisora can get good work as opponents.

I think Chisora has earned really well and can do what he wants, I hope JJ has earned retirement money
His manager said on Twitter that he was a multi millionaire.
Joyce? Really happy if that's true

Re: Round-by-Round: Joe Joyce vs. Derek Chisora | TNT Sports - 24th July 2024

Posted: 28 Jul 2024, 12:02
by SeanBrennan
Fell asleep straight after. What a war. Joyce was extremely humble after.

Anyone know what their purses were for this fight?

Re: Round-by-Round: Joe Joyce vs. Derek Chisora | TNT Sports - 24th July 2024

Posted: 28 Jul 2024, 12:19
by jameswilson
I can see Joyce fighting Dubois to try and get Dubois bck in the mix.

Re: Round-by-Round: Joe Joyce vs. Derek Chisora | TNT Sports - 24th July 2024

Posted: 28 Jul 2024, 12:22
by mickey1975
SeanBrennan wrote: 28 Jul 2024, 11:58
mickey1975 wrote: 28 Jul 2024, 08:30
Coco wrote: 28 Jul 2024, 08:01 Both Joyce and Chisora can get good work as opponents.

I think Chisora has earned really well and can do what he wants, I hope JJ has earned retirement money
His manager said on Twitter that he was a multi millionaire.
Joyce? Really happy if that's true
Yes. Shane Watson replying to Curtis Woodhouse.

Re: Round-by-Round: Joe Joyce vs. Derek Chisora | TNT Sports - 24th July 2024

Posted: 28 Jul 2024, 12:27
by Boxerbeetle
SeanBrennan wrote: 28 Jul 2024, 12:02
Anyone know what their purses were for this fight?
You should put this as your forum signature, save yourself a bit of time each week :lol:

Re: Round-by-Round: Joe Joyce vs. Derek Chisora | TNT Sports - 24th July 2024

Posted: 28 Jul 2024, 12:29
by SeanBrennan
Boxerbeetle wrote: 28 Jul 2024, 12:27
SeanBrennan wrote: 28 Jul 2024, 12:02
Anyone know what their purses were for this fight?
You should put this as your forum signature, save yourself a bit of time each week :lol:
hahahahahah I deserve this mate, this and "any one seen Dave Allen?"

Re: Round-by-Round: Joe Joyce vs. Derek Chisora | TNT Sports - 24th July 2024

Posted: 28 Jul 2024, 12:30
by SeanBrennan
mickey1975 wrote: 28 Jul 2024, 12:22
SeanBrennan wrote: 28 Jul 2024, 11:58
mickey1975 wrote: 28 Jul 2024, 08:30
His manager said on Twitter that he was a multi millionaire.
Joyce? Really happy if that's true
Yes. Shane Watson replying to Curtis Woodhouse.
thanks

Re: Round-by-Round: Joe Joyce vs. Derek Chisora | TNT Sports - 24th July 2024

Posted: 28 Jul 2024, 13:02
by Coco
SeanBrennan wrote: 28 Jul 2024, 12:02 Fell asleep straight after. What a war. Joyce was extremely humble after.

Anyone know what their purses were for this fight?
10 rounder, not PPV, not in Saudi, no DAZN money, prob shared 500k

Re: Round-by-Round: Joe Joyce vs. Derek Chisora | TNT Sports - 24th July 2024

Posted: 28 Jul 2024, 13:50
by cormack
jameswilson wrote: 28 Jul 2024, 12:19 I can see Joyce fighting Dubois to try and get Dubois bck in the mix.
and will get badly knocked out if he does .
JJ has deteriorated since he beat DDD

Re: Round-by-Round: Joe Joyce vs. Derek Chisora | TNT Sports - 24th July 2024

Posted: 28 Jul 2024, 14:05
by Lackeos
The heavyweight division is just a big rock-paper-scissors. There is no hierarchy. Joyce beat Dubois and Parker, but lost to Zhang and Chisora. Hrgovic officially beat Zhang (gift), but lost to Dubois. Parker lost to Joyce and Whyte, but he beat Zhang and Wilder. Zhang lost to Parker and officially Hrgovic, but he beat Joyce and Wilder. Dubois lost to Joyce, but he beat Hrgovic. There's no pattern in any of it, just a bunch of A beats B beats C beats A.

Re: Round-by-Round: Joe Joyce vs. Derek Chisora | TNT Sports - 24th July 2024

Posted: 28 Jul 2024, 15:52
by KiwiRider
Lackeos wrote: 28 Jul 2024, 14:05 The heavyweight division is just a big rock-paper-scissors. There is no hierarchy. Joyce beat Dubois and Parker, but lost to Zhang and Chisora. Hrgovic officially beat Zhang (gift), but lost to Dubois. Parker lost to Joyce and Whyte, but he beat Zhang and Wilder. Zhang lost to Parker and officially Hrgovic, but he beat Joyce and Wilder. Dubois lost to Joyce, but he beat Hrgovic. There's no pattern in any of it, just a bunch of A beats B beats C beats A.
You should be grateful that A is actually fighting B, because two years ago, none of them were fighting each other. Before the reign of protecting the "0" top heavies would fight each other 2 or 3 times.

Re: Round-by-Round: Joe Joyce vs. Derek Chisora | TNT Sports - 24th July 2024

Posted: 28 Jul 2024, 16:01
by Twinkle Toes
Lackeos wrote: 28 Jul 2024, 14:05 The heavyweight division is just a big rock-paper-scissors. There is no hierarchy. Joyce beat Dubois and Parker, but lost to Zhang and Chisora. Hrgovic officially beat Zhang (gift), but lost to Dubois. Parker lost to Joyce and Whyte, but he beat Zhang and Wilder. Zhang lost to Parker and officially Hrgovic, but he beat Joyce and Wilder. Dubois lost to Joyce, but he beat Hrgovic. There's no pattern in any of it, just a bunch of A beats B beats C beats A.
It shows how inconsistent these heavyweights are this era. They remind of those that were around before Mike Tyson came along and worked his way through them. Decent and tough fighters but could lose to each other at any time.

I didn't think Chisora had much of a chance in this one, but seeing him land 50% of his power punches is grim reading for Joyce and his ability to avoid a shot.

Re: Round-by-Round: Joe Joyce vs. Derek Chisora | TNT Sports - 24th July 2024

Posted: 28 Jul 2024, 16:23
by KiwiRider
Uysk shows some reluctant love for Del Boy as he gets the decision

Re: Round-by-Round: Joe Joyce vs. Derek Chisora | TNT Sports - 24th July 2024

Posted: 28 Jul 2024, 16:44
by mickey1975
KiwiRider wrote: 28 Jul 2024, 16:23 Uysk shows some reluctant love for Del Boy as he gets the decision
He was in his changing room before and after and credits Del as the hardest hitter he has faced. Hardly reluctant.