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Main card

Jake Paul def. Mike Tyson by unanimous decision (80-72, 79-73, 79-73)
Katie Taylor def. Amanda Serrano by unanimous decision (95-94, 95-94, 95-94)
Mario Barrios vs. Abel Ramos – split draw (114-112, 110-116, 113-113)
Neeraj Goyat def. Whindersson Nunes by unanimous decision (59-55, 60-54, 60-54)

Prelims

Shadasia Green def. Melinda Watpool by split decision (97-93, 94-96, 96-94)
Lucas Bahdi def. Armando Casamonica by majority decision (95-95, 96-93, 98-92)
Bruce Carrington def. Dana Coolwell by unanimous decision (80-70, 80-70, 80-70)

CompuBox punch stats

amwsnw wrote: ↑16 Nov 2024, 04:02 Really feel for Amanda. I had her winning 6-4 or 7-3, plus the point off. The head butting was intentional and it didn’t let up even when Amanda suffered the horrendous cut. Would have to be a very very big pay for her to fight Katie again.
Thought barrios did enough to hold onto his title. 2 very good fights. Put some credibility to the card and hopefully these 4 fighters were well remunerated.

Two of the three judges gave the second round to Taylor

Billy Tully wrote: ↑16 Nov 2024, 05:00 I watched it just to see Mike Tyson in the ring one last time.

He had aged badly since the Roy Jones exhibition, where he was fit, quick and snappy. Now the face was haggard, the body slow, the knee brace very ominous. I hoped him and Paul would take it easy en route to a prearranged draw, but, to my horror, they were definitely trying to twat each other.

I agree Paul could perhaps have piled it on but seemed leery of catching a desperation punch. I do think the 2020 Tyson would have beaten him but at nearly 60 he couldn't move anymore and couldn't take any risks himself.

BTW: Tyson obsessives are interpreting only 18 punches landed as evidence their idol was paid not to KO Paul... His fans are as mad as Mike.

They really don’t understand that he is a 58 year old man and looked terrible 20 years ago.

p4p1 wrote: ↑16 Nov 2024, 08:46

Billy Tully wrote: ↑16 Nov 2024, 05:00 I watched it just to see Mike Tyson in the ring one last time.

He had aged badly since the Roy Jones exhibition, where he was fit, quick and snappy. Now the face was haggard, the body slow, the knee brace very ominous. I hoped him and Paul would take it easy en route to a prearranged draw, but, to my horror, they were definitely trying to twat each other.

I agree Paul could perhaps have piled it on but seemed leery of catching a desperation punch. I do think the 2020 Tyson would have beaten him but at nearly 60 he couldn't move anymore and couldn't take any risks himself.

BTW: Tyson obsessives are interpreting only 18 punches landed as evidence their idol was paid not to KO Paul... His fans are as mad as Mike.

They really don’t understand that he is a 58 year old man and looked terrible 20 years ago.

I would argue he lost to Williams and McBride more because he was out of shape and at that point hated boxing, but, I agree with your overall point.

Billy Tully wrote: ↑16 Nov 2024, 09:02 I would argue he lost to Williams and McBride more because he was out of shape and at that point hated boxing, but, I agree with your overall point.

Also, Tyson was ahead in both these fights.

UD on all cards for Williams

and he was ahead on 2 against McBride

Carl Froch is bang on the money:

https://x.com/MichaelBensonn/status/185 ... gr%5Etweet

The fight was nothing more than an exhibition. Big gloves and all. I fear staged like other Paul fights have looked. 20mil each. Needed to go distance. They both laugh to bank.

This is the guy scared to death of Mayweather on the street but suddenly secure to “fight” Tyson: ok.

amwsnw wrote: ↑16 Nov 2024, 04:02 Really feel for Amanda. I had her winning 6-4 or 7-3, plus the point off. The head butting was intentional and it didn’t let up even when Amanda suffered the horrendous cut. Would have to be a very very big pay for her to fight Katie again.
Thought barrios did enough to hold onto his title. 2 very good fights. Put some credibility to the card and hopefully these 4 fighters were well remunerated.

I had it 7 rounds to 3 for Serrano as well. The headbutts did seem intentional to me because they just kept happening in the same exact spot.

I watched the 2 prelim fights
Both were good
Serrano got screwed and reminded me why i dont really watch anymore

gilgamesh wrote: ↑16 Nov 2024, 02:29 Went about like I thought it would. Old Mike had 1 good round in him, and then he was toast. Jake could've stopped him, but took pity on him which I think was better for all involved. Nobody wanted to see Mike knocked out in there.

Ramos vs Barrios was definitely the highlight of the card and an excellent fight.

Serrano vs Taylor 2 was a good fight, but was tainted with a bullsh*t decision. Katie seems to need a lot of judges help don't she?

Or Paul simply didn't want to take the gamble.

Tony1244 wrote: ↑16 Nov 2024, 14:45

gilgamesh wrote: ↑16 Nov 2024, 02:29 Went about like I thought it would. Old Mike had 1 good round in him, and then he was toast. Jake could've stopped him, but took pity on him which I think was better for all involved. Nobody wanted to see Mike knocked out in there.

Ramos vs Barrios was definitely the highlight of the card and an excellent fight.

Serrano vs Taylor 2 was a good fight, but was tainted with a bullsh*t decision. Katie seems to need a lot of judges help don't she?

Or Paul simply didn't want to take the gamble.

Mike had zero after the first minute. A comination would have toppled him. It was a sad farce like usual

This sold 72,000 tickets. In contract Foreman-Lyle may have sold 2,000.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑16 Nov 2024, 03:12

Evander wrote: ↑16 Nov 2024, 03:06 ^
Knew this coming in

All of us here on Boxrec probably did. We're the Hardcore Boxing aficionado's that actually pay attention to the details of the sport.

Other people see simply knockouts, and glossy records, and the other subtleties of the sport just kinda pass them by.

You don't need to be a hardcore boxing aficionado, or ever have seen a boxing match, to know that 58 year old people are shit at physical sports.

gp. wrote: ↑16 Nov 2024, 15:13 You don't need to be a hardcore boxing aficionado, or ever have seen a boxing match, to know that 58 year old people are shit at physical sports.

You would think so. However, many people on social media still believe the elder, who came out of the retirement home for this fight, threw it.
The odds were pretty competitive too.
Mind-blowing.

Sendo Takeshi wrote: ↑16 Nov 2024, 15:50

gp. wrote: ↑16 Nov 2024, 15:13 You don't need to be a hardcore boxing aficionado, or ever have seen a boxing match, to know that 58 year old people are shit at physical sports.

You would think so. However, many people on social media still believe the elder, who came out of the retirement home for this fight, threw it.
The odds were pretty competitive too.
Mind-blowing.

I was chatting to a mate earlier and he said Tyson would’ve won if it were a “real” fight and not an exhibition as he wasn’t trying and was only going through the motions.

It was obviously a real fight. Paul didn't want to get caught so didnt wade in on Tyson.

If you can watch that fight and think they're faking you must be one of those people who spend all day online calling everything fake.

big lennox wrote: ↑16 Nov 2024, 13:27 Carl Froch is bang on the money:

https://x.com/MichaelBensonn/status/185 ... gr%5Etweet

I don't think he's on the money at all. Paul clearly carried Tyson and could have knocked him out pretty much whenever he wanted to. And Tyson tried as much as he could but this is what a 58 year old man looks like. Jake Paul isn't world class and probably never will be, but he's a solid B level fighter imo. If Froch did come out of retirement and fought him I think he'd lose and probably lose badly. Froch is pushing 50 and hasn't fought in 10 years, he's delusional if he thinks it would be an easy fight for him.

That's the easiest money both of them probably have ever earned.

Tyson got paid £20 million for throwing 97 punches and landing 18 and Jake Paul got paid double that for carrying an ancient man who offered no threat and has the mobility of a kitchen cupboard!

big lennox wrote: ↑16 Nov 2024, 13:27 Carl Froch is bang on the money:

https://x.com/MichaelBensonn/status/185 ... gr%5Etweet

Froch loves to hear himself talk.

I'm sorry but there's no way he comes back and beats anyone in the top 50, especially someone naturally larger and stronger than him whose also nearly 30 years younger than himself. He'd be embarrassed. All of these old timers don't have it anymore. Pure and simple. Froch wouldn't turn back the clock.

By the time he would be done with a genuine training camp he would already be burnt out even if he looked the part. No, if anyone is going to shut this kid up forever it'll have to be one of the current contenders or champions. It wasn't competitive because Tyson was literally that shot, and Paul saw it early on and decided not to tee off on him.

That's maybe the only credit I can give him is that he had the good sense not to be an asshole and try to go for a knockout. If I was him I would try to appeal to the commission to reverse it back to being an exhibition and not a real contest, because that's not a good look to have on your record at all.

Jesus Christ Almighty God bless you all

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑16 Nov 2024, 18:37

big lennox wrote: ↑16 Nov 2024, 13:27 Carl Froch is bang on the money:

https://x.com/MichaelBensonn/status/185 ... gr%5Etweet

Froch loves to hear himself talk.

I'm sorry but there's no way he comes back and beats anyone in the top 50, especially someone naturally larger and stronger than him whose also nearly 30 years younger than himself. He'd be embarrassed. All of these old timers don't have it anymore. Pure and simple. Froch wouldn't turn back the clock.

By the time he would be done with a genuine training camp he would already be burnt out even if he looked the part. No, if anyone is going to shut this kid up forever it'll have to be one of the current contenders or champions. It wasn't competitive because Tyson was literally that shot, and Paul saw it early on and decided not to tee off on him.

That's maybe the only credit I can give him is that he had the good sense not to be an asshole and try to go for a knockout. If I was him I would try to appeal to the commission to reverse it back to being an exhibition and not a real contest, because that's not a good look to have on your record at all.

Jesus Christ Almighty God bless you all

Froch beats Paul.

Froch is only 20 years older, not 30. He's also only 10 years retired. Never chinny.

I don't want the fight. However, Paul knows this fight is high risk, low reward. It won't happen.

joshj909 wrote: ↑17 Nov 2024, 00:32

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑16 Nov 2024, 18:37

big lennox wrote: ↑16 Nov 2024, 13:27 Carl Froch is bang on the money:

https://x.com/MichaelBensonn/status/185 ... gr%5Etweet

Froch loves to hear himself talk.

I'm sorry but there's no way he comes back and beats anyone in the top 50, especially someone naturally larger and stronger than him whose also nearly 30 years younger than himself. He'd be embarrassed. All of these old timers don't have it anymore. Pure and simple. Froch wouldn't turn back the clock.

By the time he would be done with a genuine training camp he would already be burnt out even if he looked the part. No, if anyone is going to shut this kid up forever it'll have to be one of the current contenders or champions. It wasn't competitive because Tyson was literally that shot, and Paul saw it early on and decided not to tee off on him.

That's maybe the only credit I can give him is that he had the good sense not to be an asshole and try to go for a knockout. If I was him I would try to appeal to the commission to reverse it back to being an exhibition and not a real contest, because that's not a good look to have on your record at all.

Jesus Christ Almighty God bless you all

Froch beats Paul.

Froch is only 20 years older, not 30. He's also only 10 years retired. Never chinny.

I don't want the fight. However, Paul knows this fight is high risk, low reward. It won't happen.

47 years old, and would be 48 by the time it would be made. No tune ups. Inactive for ten years plus. The odds are extremely long that Froch could remotely win. Everybody is acting like 48 is not old. It's ancient in sports terms. It doesn't matter how good Froch once was. If the fight happened and it was 10-12 rounds Froch might look good for 4-5 rounds, but eventually his old legs would feel like he had 50 pounds strapped to his ankles. The tide would begin to turn. Perhaps Froch could last the distance, but he'd break even at best or lose a split or majority decision.

I know everybody keeps saying Paul is no good, is garbage, etc but that's simply not true. He is a low-grade trialhorse fighter atm. There's 7 levels to boxing: 1st tiersmen, 2nd tiersmen, journeymen, trialhorses, gatekeepers, contenders and champions. The longer Froch keeps sleeping in soft sheets, making youtube videos, and bragging he's better than Anthony Joshua ever was the less likely he could.

I don't like Jake Paul but I guarantee when he wakes up this morning it's back to the gym. He stays in shape, and keeps doing his drills and listening to his coaches. Froch I very much doubt does a tenth of the work Jake Paul does at this stage of his life.

There is a reason why this is a young man's sport. There is a reason why you don't see comebacks that often. These old guys can crow all the way but sometime during training camp their arthritis would flare up, the muscles ache worse than ever before, and it's harder to motivate yourself to give 100% effort.

And yes, I'm aware there was old guys who fought in the past but the difference is they never exactly left the game to begin with. They kept staying in it. But when you leave the sport and come back, especially after that long, it's virtually impossible to find success at it.

Remember Riddick Bowe vs Billy Zumbrun? Bowe lost that easily but was gifted a nonsense decision win. Zumbrun was nothing to write home about. That was pretty sad. And you're telling me Froch who would have to jump up 2 weight classes at 48 years old and ten years inactive can beat a guy like Jake Paul?

At some point reality has to sink in. Maybe five years out from his initial retirement he could have done it easily. But it'll be 11 years if that is Paul's next fight. I can't see a guy who depended largely on his legs like Froch being able to suddenly dance rings, darting in and out of range for more than 4-5 rounds. Paul can take a punch and does hit hard himself. I don't want to see Froch or anyone else over 45-60 fighting unless it's against other guys their own age.

Jesus Christ Almighty God bless you all

So many retired fighters are gonna be calling out Jake Paul now that he'll have plenty of options that's for sure. Nobody will draw the kinda money Tyson did, but they'll be coming out of the woodwork for a payday.

I can't imagine there could be much more interest though in Jake Paul fighting old fighters, but I guess it all just depends on who it is. At the very least I'd hope it's somebody that's either active or hasn't been retired long.

I think it'd be pretty amusing to see Francis Ngannou vs Jake Paul. Considering they're the 2 Circus guys of the last few years, let them clash against each other.