Round-by-Round: Johnny Fisher vs. Dave Allen II | DAZN - 17 May 2025

[handsofstone]

Refs a disgrace, could've got Fisher badly hurt assuming he's ok hopefully, wtf he playing at letting Fisher carry on after that knockdown?

As for the fight Fisher started off well behind the jab as he did last time, boxing ,moving as Allen stalked throwing the occasional overhand right , rounds 3 and 4 there were signs Allen was getting going and sure enough round 5 he was like James Toney ffs, calm composed and really thinking about what he was doing and it was a clear tactic to put it on Fisher and he did, hurt Fisher with the right and then to the body when he was shook, Fisher was all over the gaff and eventually Allen put him down, he was completely out of it yet Marcus McDonnell sends him back out, Allen laid him to waste, sunk in they body shots and iced him with a left hook across the jaw with another right for good measure, KO of Allen's career, I'm delighted for him, he was terrible for first 2 rounds, slightly better in the 3rd, 4th I noticed a slight shift in the tempo and round 5 he was sensational

[Kilburn]

Fisher tried to fight like AJ in the Ruiz rematch yet doesn’t have the ability or fitness to keep that up for 10 rounds.

Allen just did what he usually does. Not throw much early and slowly crank up the pressure. Fair play.

Pretty accurate. I’ve never been a fan of Fisher but I at least expected him to come to this rematch like he was going in there to dominate from the start.

Dave Allen seemed to be making a point of looking unimpressed with Fisher early on. How true that image turned out to be. Easy nights work.

[dookus]

someone once said fisher must have a good chin because he spars with joe joyce and apparently did well in those....well this is why you have to actually see it tested in a fight. johnny just not durable enough and doesnt have the skill or fitness to compensate. can see the losses adding up faster now

Completely agree. Only one of them ever looked hurt in either fight, and whilst Allen can definitely crack he's not exactly an offensive monster

[rd350lc]

Taking the rematch of the win you should have lost really is a foolish move. Proven here… I like they wanted too but that’s not good. Now it’s a longgg road back or gamble it all on the trilogy…. (Not smart)

Allen needs to fight for the brittish this year and avoid the dollar signs to be fed to Moses…

Fish needs to take a goood break, then bash 4 or 5 journeymen/cans in quick succession.

I disagree, he's an old boy in boxing terms and one big last payday is the better option, I honestly don't think he's bothered about titles at this stage in his career.

[hhaehre]

Whatever people think about Dave, he can fight.

Yup. Not world class, but a solid rugged pro. Good fight to retire on this.

[MasterG]

Anyone in boxing must know Fisher wasnt going anywhere as a pro. I mean come on Boxrec posters who actually thought there was a fruitful future in the pro ranks for Fisher?

Allen is again, another limited boxers but far better than Fisher.

In all honesty I would love to see Dave in with Hughie Fury.

[margaret thatcher]

Anyone in boxing must know Fisher wasnt going anywhere as a pro. I mean come on Boxrec posters who actually thought there was a fruitful future in the pro ranks for Fisher?

Allen is again, another limited boxers but far better than Fisher.

In all honesty I would love to see Dave in with Hughie Fury.

there were a few who were impressed by fisher, tbh i felt like i was being gaslighted at the time

that said, i do think he improved from his debut till now, i was starting to think going into the first allen fight maybe he has something, but then he showed he's just not tough or fit enough

[Fearful_Freddie]

Where can Allen go?

He ain't world class but give the guy credit.

Would like to see moses itauma against Allen

Sadistic.

Would be cruel. Allen knows his level.

[Gran Hermano]

Show us that fat blob Big John. What a result for Dave. Made up for him

[MasterG]

Show us that fat blob Big John. What a result for Dave. Made up for him

Anyone who isn't made up for Dave isn't worth talking about

[KiwiRider]

Anyone in boxing must know Fisher wasnt going anywhere as a pro. I mean come on Boxrec posters who actually thought there was a fruitful future in the pro ranks for Fisher?

Allen is again, another limited boxers but far better than Fisher.

In all honesty I would love to see Dave in with Hughie Fury.

He started out very green, and performed well at the beginners level. Some guys keep improving, and eventually we find out their level.
Up until the first fight with Dave, we had no idea of Fisher's level.

[Miguello]

Fisher imo was a glorified white collar boxer. Great lad, probably very smart outside of the ring. But not what matchroom, or his dad, tried to make him out to be.

You could see him folding under pressure when throwing those low blows. A three piece from Allen and it was all over

[a force]

He shouldn’t go anywhere near Itauma.

He shifts tickets & Matchroom also have Harper who shifts tickets. Do a Sheffield Arena show & get him in the mix with Adeleye & TKV. He beats both for me as long as he turns up in shape or at least as decent shape as he was in tonight.

[handsofstone]

Where can Allen go?

He ain't world class but give the guy credit.

Would like to see moses itauma against Allen

Sadistic.

Haha aye that's pretty bonkers

[joshj909]

He shouldn’t go anywhere near Itauma.

He shifts tickets & Matchroom also have Harper who shifts tickets. Do a Sheffield Arena show & get him in the mix with Adeleye & TKV. He beats both for me as long as he turns up in shape or at least as decent shape as he was in tonight.

This is the level he should be competing at. They'd be good wins for him and there's no shame in not jumping up to a position which is too far and possibly dangerous. He could win an British title in the process.

[gregregegg]

Taking the rematch of the win you should have lost really is a foolish move. Proven here… I like they wanted too but that’s not good. Now it’s a longgg road back or gamble it all on the trilogy…. (Not smart)

Allen needs to fight for the brittish this year and avoid the dollar signs to be fed to Moses…

Fish needs to take a goood break, then bash 4 or 5 journeymen/cans in quick succession.

I disagree, he's an old boy in boxing terms and one big last payday is the better option, I honestly don't think he's bothered about titles at this stage in his career.

The way I see it is like this..:

Option A: fight Moses, horrific beating that retires you… then you’re irrelevant… now if it’s for insane cash it is a decent option.

Option B: try fight for the British…. Probably a bit less money. But if you lose it might not be so bad it retires you… and if you win you have achieved one of your dreams anddd then can fight Moses for more money if you really want that cash out.

Dragging out being relevant is important if Dave wants to get fights for the guys he trains and or manages.

There is always option C which is be the a side in lesser fights, but that won’t financially appeal. But Mabey do it once or twice if the TKV rematch drags on.

[SeanBrennan]

Well done Dave Allen.

Credit to Fisher for not running off and staying in the ring.

Fantastic to see Hearn having to eat it and Fat Fisher not having any angle to moan.

Good on you Dave, you splattered him.

[SeanBrennan]

Taking the rematch of the win you should have lost really is a foolish move. Proven here… I like they wanted too but that’s not good. Now it’s a longgg road back or gamble it all on the trilogy…. (Not smart)

Allen needs to fight for the brittish this year and avoid the dollar signs to be fed to Moses…

Fish needs to take a goood break, then bash 4 or 5 journeymen/cans in quick succession.

I disagree, he's an old boy in boxing terms and one big last payday is the better option, I honestly don't think he's bothered about titles at this stage in his career.

The way I see it is like this..:

Option A: fight Moses, horrific beating that retires you… then you’re irrelevant… now if it’s for insane cash it is a decent option.

Option B: try fight for the British…. Probably a bit less money. But if you lose it might not be so bad it retires you… and if you win you have achieved one of your dreams anddd then can fight Moses for more money if you really want that cash out.

Dragging out being relevant is important if Dave wants to get fights for the guys he trains and or manages.

There is always option C which is be the a side in lesser fights, but that won’t financially appeal. But Mabey do it once or twice if the TKV rematch drags on.

No one has ever put Dave down. How is Moses is going to horrifically beat him.

[mickey1975]

Bellew is going in Big Bosh's bad books.

[Kilburn]

I’m on the Moses train but I’m not seeing the massacre for Allen that appears to be the majority view.

[margaret thatcher]

I disagree, he's an old boy in boxing terms and one big last payday is the better option, I honestly don't think he's bothered about titles at this stage in his career.

The way I see it is like this..:

Option A: fight Moses, horrific beating that retires you… then you’re irrelevant… now if it’s for insane cash it is a decent option.

Option B: try fight for the British…. Probably a bit less money. But if you lose it might not be so bad it retires you… and if you win you have achieved one of your dreams anddd then can fight Moses for more money if you really want that cash out.

Dragging out being relevant is important if Dave wants to get fights for the guys he trains and or manages.

There is always option C which is be the a side in lesser fights, but that won’t financially appeal. But Mabey do it once or twice if the TKV rematch drags on.

No one has ever put Dave down. How is Moses is going to horrifically beat him.

dave obviously has an excellent chin, it would be more of an accumulation/punch bag type fight, which is more dangerous tbh

itauma does need rounds tbf, and dave is great at giving those, but i do think itauma is far better than fisher and that it would be a bit of a nasty one for dave. moses super quick combos over and over on hsi face

adelye/tkv is the perfect level for dave atm i think, he could be british champ with those two being the level

[MasterG]

Fisher had 12 fight prior to meeting Dave. His 13th was a draw. There was no indication in those 13 fights that Johnny was going anywhere.

Dave is a tough rugged limited fighter himself, it's hard to say where you would rank him. Saying that the IBF ranked Conor Been at 5 after his loss to Chris EubsnknJr, so I'm guessing the IBF will Install Dave in the top 5 next month.

Seriously though I think a fight with Hughie Fury or Joy Joyce could well be successful for Dave. I think Dave could beat both. I certainly think he knocks out JJ.

Outside of domestic level I would tread carefully. But there are deffo at least 1 win out of the 2 I've mentioned.

[a force]

I disagree, he's an old boy in boxing terms and one big last payday is the better option, I honestly don't think he's bothered about titles at this stage in his career.

The way I see it is like this..:

Option A: fight Moses, horrific beating that retires you… then you’re irrelevant… now if it’s for insane cash it is a decent option.

Option B: try fight for the British…. Probably a bit less money. But if you lose it might not be so bad it retires you… and if you win you have achieved one of your dreams anddd then can fight Moses for more money if you really want that cash out.

Dragging out being relevant is important if Dave wants to get fights for the guys he trains and or manages.

There is always option C which is be the a side in lesser fights, but that won’t financially appeal. But Mabey do it once or twice if the TKV rematch drags on.

No one has ever put Dave down. How is Moses is going to horrifically beat him.

It’s the speed of the punches. He won’t be able to get out of the way. We don’t need to see that.

[gregregegg]

I disagree, he's an old boy in boxing terms and one big last payday is the better option, I honestly don't think he's bothered about titles at this stage in his career.

The way I see it is like this..:

Option A: fight Moses, horrific beating that retires you… then you’re irrelevant… now if it’s for insane cash it is a decent option.

Option B: try fight for the British…. Probably a bit less money. But if you lose it might not be so bad it retires you… and if you win you have achieved one of your dreams anddd then can fight Moses for more money if you really want that cash out.

Dragging out being relevant is important if Dave wants to get fights for the guys he trains and or manages.

There is always option C which is be the a side in lesser fights, but that won’t financially appeal. But Mabey do it once or twice if the TKV rematch drags on.

No one has ever put Dave down. How is Moses is going to horrifically beat him.

That is why it will be a horrific beating in my opinion. Moses hands are quick and powerful, the thing that saves his opponents is getting splattered…but Dave is too tough for that.

With Dave’s insane toughness and Moses hands I feel like it would be a really damaging fight for Dave. Unless he or his team pulls him out or a brittish a side stoppage… which is fairly likely but if it gets let continue it could get bad…

Alternatively Mabey Moses is fragile or gasses and Dave can fisher him… but I feel like Moses offence is a lot to try soak up.

[Coco]

Bellew talked a lot of sense tonight.

Conway is a jump to far for Lydard at the mo. The Hearns have always done it, given their fighter the world champion publicity, match them soft, then they aren't ready for the real step up. I think Lydard is more Mark Delaney than Joe Calzaghe.

Also it's true that Allen is around British title level, so for Fisher that's a place he is a long way off.

Fair play to Fast Car, taking the uni rugby captain whose never boxed before but sells a boat load of tickets, and been printing money for fun for the past few years