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Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Moses Itauma | PPV - 16 August 2025

Posted: 17 Jul 2025, 16:39
by KiwiRider
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 17 Jul 2025, 04:04 PPV price been announced

$39.99 in the U.S.

£15.99 in the UK.
Hard pass.
A prospect vs a faded second tier.
Nope.

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Moses Itauma | PPV - 16 August 2025

Posted: 19 Jul 2025, 13:29
by SeanBrennan
KiwiRider wrote: 15 Jul 2025, 21:00
SeanBrennan wrote: 15 Jul 2025, 12:57 Is the consensus on here that Moses will beat him easily?
Maybe not easily, but probably quickly.
Whyte has lost his punch resistance, so while he is still a very good second tier heavyweight, he is chinny and the Slovakian Slugger can bang.
I love that description, great old school name

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Moses Itauma | PPV - 16 August 2025

Posted: 19 Jul 2025, 13:29
by SeanBrennan
gregregegg wrote: 15 Jul 2025, 17:42
SeanBrennan wrote: 15 Jul 2025, 12:57 Is the consensus on here that Moses will beat him easily?
I thin Moses will stop Whyte quick. but that while he is doing it there will be some small amount of risk (due to never having faced any ofence).

I don't know if I am worthy of being able to define the consensus here... but I think that's a pretty popular view^...
cheers Greg

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Moses Itauma | PPV - 16 August 2025

Posted: 25 Jul 2025, 03:55
by Ruthless-RKO

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Moses Itauma | PPV - 16 August 2025

Posted: 29 Jul 2025, 17:38
by joshj909
Whyte is a huge betting underdog in this fight. If he can use his experience and size while Itauma isn't what we all thought he was, there's going to be some big wins out there.

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Moses Itauma | PPV - 16 August 2025

Posted: 29 Jul 2025, 19:15
by CaptainSpacerod
KiwiRider wrote: 17 Jul 2025, 16:39
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 17 Jul 2025, 04:04 PPV price been announced

$39.99 in the U.S.

£15.99 in the UK.
Hard pass.
A prospect vs a faded second tier.
Nope.
yep 100% agree

I'd pass at £5.99

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Moses Itauma | PPV - 16 August 2025

Posted: 29 Jul 2025, 19:47
by KiwiRider
CaptainSpacerod wrote: 29 Jul 2025, 19:15
KiwiRider wrote: 17 Jul 2025, 16:39
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 17 Jul 2025, 04:04 PPV price been announced

$39.99 in the U.S.

£15.99 in the UK.
Hard pass.
A prospect vs a faded second tier.
Nope.
yep 100% agree

I'd pass at £5.99
I'm patient enough to wait a few days for these types of fights to come on YouTube.
Heck, it could only go 30 seconds. Whyte can't take a shot anymore.

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Moses Itauma | PPV - 16 August 2025

Posted: 29 Jul 2025, 20:27
by CaptainSpacerod
KiwiRider wrote: 29 Jul 2025, 19:47
CaptainSpacerod wrote: 29 Jul 2025, 19:15
KiwiRider wrote: 17 Jul 2025, 16:39

Hard pass.
A prospect vs a faded second tier.
Nope.
yep 100% agree

I'd pass at £5.99
I'm patient enough to wait a few days for these types of fights to come on YouTube.
Heck, it could only go 30 seconds. Whyte can't take a shot anymore.
It is an interesting fight. Whyte's only lost to elite guys, sure he's faded now but who knows what Moses will do if the second half of the fight arrives and Whyte's still there.

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Moses Itauma | PPV - 16 August 2025

Posted: 30 Jul 2025, 05:08
by Ruthless-RKO

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Moses Itauma | PPV - 16 August 2025

Posted: 30 Jul 2025, 06:49
by Cent0089
I would cheer for Whyte here. Cannot stand overhyping a prospect and cherry picking oponents.

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Moses Itauma | PPV - 16 August 2025

Posted: 30 Jul 2025, 06:54
by Ruthless-RKO
Cent0089 wrote: 30 Jul 2025, 06:49 I would cheer for Whyte here. Cannot stand overhyping a prospect and cherry picking opponents.
I can agree with you here to a level.

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Moses Itauma | PPV - 16 August 2025

Posted: 30 Jul 2025, 08:32
by joshj909
Cent0089 wrote: 30 Jul 2025, 06:49 I would cheer for Whyte here. Cannot stand overhyping a prospect and cherry picking oponents.
I agree with that and I did like Whyte, even after his poor WBC title challenge, because he fought all comers and deserved the title shot, however, his numerous failed tests make him a hell of a lot more difficult to like. He is a funny guy too

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Moses Itauma | PPV - 16 August 2025

Posted: 30 Jul 2025, 09:19
by keithmoonhangover
I must be out of touch, but didn't Turki say PPVs were no more?

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Moses Itauma | PPV - 16 August 2025

Posted: 30 Jul 2025, 09:52
by Ruthless-RKO
keithmoonhangover wrote: 30 Jul 2025, 09:19 I must be out of touch, but didn't Turki say PPVs were no more?
From the November Riyadh card

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Moses Itauma | PPV - 16 August 2025

Posted: 30 Jul 2025, 10:09
by keithmoonhangover
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 30 Jul 2025, 09:52
keithmoonhangover wrote: 30 Jul 2025, 09:19 I must be out of touch, but didn't Turki say PPVs were no more?
From the November Riyadh card
Of all the bills he's done, this is the least PPV worthy. I'm not paying for it I tell you, I'm not, so there. :-P *THROWS RATTLE OUT OF THE COT*

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Moses Itauma | PPV - 16 August 2025

Posted: 31 Jul 2025, 15:59
by Ruthless-RKO
UNDERDOG DILLIAN WHYTE DRAWS INSPIRATION FROM CARL THOMPSON'S FAMOUS WIN OVER DAVID HAYE


LONDON, England — Dillian Whyte has compared his August showdown against Moses Itauma to the night that David Haye famously lost his undefeated record to Carl Thompson at Wembley Arena in 2004.

Despite his experience at the top level, Whyte, 37, has been installed as a huge underdog against Itauma (12-0, 10 KOs) for their clash in the headliner of the Esports World Cup event in Riyadh on Aug. 16.

Few are giving the Bodysnatcher, a former world title challenger, much of a chance against Itauma who is widely considered most likely to replace Oleksandr Usyk as the next dominant force in the heavyweight division.

Although he is being widely written off, Whyte is old enough to know that opinions will mean little and that history proves that the young, hungry favourite can often come unstuck.

“I don't feel disrespected,” Whyte says from the gym in Portugal in which he trains. “In life everybody's got an opinion.

“Listen, I've been out in the long grass while he's been in the limelight. He's the new man. He's shining. He's knocking everyone out. He's doing this, he's doing that. There's excitement about him and stuff.

“But people’s memories are short in boxing. You remember a few years ago when David Haye fought Carl Thompson? Carl Thompson was just a dangerman that was in the wilderness. No one cared about Carl Thompson. David was blowing everyone away, smashing everyone's heads in. And then, look, Carl Thompson showed up and got the job done.”

The fight in question took place Sept. 10, 2004, when Haye, undefeated in 10 fights all via stoppages, stepped up for his first 12-round fight. Thompson later revealed that people had told him not to take the fight against the big-punching cruiserweight, 18 years his junior, for safety reasons and that even his family did not want to attend because it seemed so dangerous.

But those who did instead witnessed the 40-year-old underdog claim a famous victory. Thompson absorbed much early punishment and effectively allowed Haye to punch himself out before he turned the fight on its head and forced a stoppage late in the fifth.

“I am definitely the Carl Thompson in this scenario. We’ve seen it so many times in history. In this country, David Price vs. Tony Thompson and then recently Martin Bakole and Jared Anderson. It has happened before. There are so many examples so let’s see what happens.”

Thompson had used every ounce of his experience to manufacture his win over Haye. Whyte, in what will be his 35th professional outing, will hold the upper hand in that department against young Itauma.

But he said: "Experience doesn't really matter so much unless I make it matter depending on the fight and what I'm going to do.

“But I don't want to give too much away, because I know these guys [in Team Itauma] like to analyse. That's one of their specialities in the gym, they do a lot of analysis, so I don't want to get into that too much.

“What I will say is that Moses has got one thing in his hand.

“He's got the bliss of ignorance. He hasn't been tested, he hasn't been hurt. Right now he's all positive, he's knocking everyone out, everything's getting great in this career, we've all been there.

“Sometimes it's great when you're inexperienced, because you have a new idea, a new mindset, and you've got these fresh ideas and you just want to crack on and get stuff done. He's got that on his side, he's got youth on his side, and he's got confidence, extreme confidence. But I’m confident in my own ability, too.”

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Moses Itauma | PPV - 16 August 2025

Posted: 31 Jul 2025, 18:02
by KiwiRider
keithmoonhangover wrote: 30 Jul 2025, 10:09
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 30 Jul 2025, 09:52
keithmoonhangover wrote: 30 Jul 2025, 09:19 I must be out of touch, but didn't Turki say PPVs were no more?
From the November Riyadh card
Of all the bills he's done, this is the least PPV worthy. I'm not paying for it I tell you, I'm not, so there. :-P *THROWS RATTLE OUT OF THE COT*
Good for you Keef!
There is only one man on this forum who will pay for it, his name is Skanksta :bow:

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Moses Itauma | PPV - 16 August 2025

Posted: 03 Aug 2025, 13:10
by Syntax Error
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 31 Jul 2025, 15:59 UNDERDOG DILLIAN WHYTE DRAWS INSPIRATION FROM CARL THOMPSON'S FAMOUS WIN OVER DAVID HAYE


LONDON, England — Dillian Whyte has compared his August showdown against Moses Itauma to the night that David Haye famously lost his undefeated record to Carl Thompson at Wembley Arena in 2004.

Despite his experience at the top level, Whyte, 37, has been installed as a huge underdog against Itauma (12-0, 10 KOs) for their clash in the headliner of the Esports World Cup event in Riyadh on Aug. 16.

Few are giving the Bodysnatcher, a former world title challenger, much of a chance against Itauma who is widely considered most likely to replace Oleksandr Usyk as the next dominant force in the heavyweight division.

Although he is being widely written off, Whyte is old enough to know that opinions will mean little and that history proves that the young, hungry favourite can often come unstuck.

“I don't feel disrespected,” Whyte says from the gym in Portugal in which he trains. “In life everybody's got an opinion.

“Listen, I've been out in the long grass while he's been in the limelight. He's the new man. He's shining. He's knocking everyone out. He's doing this, he's doing that. There's excitement about him and stuff.

“But people’s memories are short in boxing. You remember a few years ago when David Haye fought Carl Thompson? Carl Thompson was just a dangerman that was in the wilderness. No one cared about Carl Thompson. David was blowing everyone away, smashing everyone's heads in. And then, look, Carl Thompson showed up and got the job done.”

The fight in question took place Sept. 10, 2004, when Haye, undefeated in 10 fights all via stoppages, stepped up for his first 12-round fight. Thompson later revealed that people had told him not to take the fight against the big-punching cruiserweight, 18 years his junior, for safety reasons and that even his family did not want to attend because it seemed so dangerous.

But those who did instead witnessed the 40-year-old underdog claim a famous victory. Thompson absorbed much early punishment and effectively allowed Haye to punch himself out before he turned the fight on its head and forced a stoppage late in the fifth.

“I am definitely the Carl Thompson in this scenario. We’ve seen it so many times in history. In this country, David Price vs. Tony Thompson and then recently Martin Bakole and Jared Anderson. It has happened before. There are so many examples so let’s see what happens.”

Thompson had used every ounce of his experience to manufacture his win over Haye. Whyte, in what will be his 35th professional outing, will hold the upper hand in that department against young Itauma.

But he said: "Experience doesn't really matter so much unless I make it matter depending on the fight and what I'm going to do.

“But I don't want to give too much away, because I know these guys [in Team Itauma] like to analyse. That's one of their specialities in the gym, they do a lot of analysis, so I don't want to get into that too much.

“What I will say is that Moses has got one thing in his hand.

“He's got the bliss of ignorance. He hasn't been tested, he hasn't been hurt. Right now he's all positive, he's knocking everyone out, everything's getting great in this career, we've all been there.

“Sometimes it's great when you're inexperienced, because you have a new idea, a new mindset, and you've got these fresh ideas and you just want to crack on and get stuff done. He's got that on his side, he's got youth on his side, and he's got confidence, extreme confidence. But I’m confident in my own ability, too.”
Somewhere, back in the midsts of this thread, I said this fight was giving me Thompson/Haye vibes.

I expect Moses to win handily, but I wouldn't be surprised if Dillian uses his experience and guile to frustrate Itauma and possibly pull off a surprise win.

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Moses Itauma | PPV - 16 August 2025

Posted: 03 Aug 2025, 13:15
by Ruthless-RKO
Syntax Error wrote: 03 Aug 2025, 13:10 Somewhere, back in the midsts of this thread, I said this fight was giving me Thompson/Haye vibes.

I expect Moses to win handily, but I wouldn't be surprised if Dillian uses his experience and guile to frustrate Itauma and possibly pull off a surprise win.
Here..
Syntax Error wrote: 07 Jun 2025, 17:49 Ballsy fight for Itauma.

Whyte is past his best, but he will be by far Moses's best opponent.

If Itauma is as good as I think he's going to be, he should stop Whyte, although I'm getting some Carl Thompson/David Haye vibes for some reason.

As long as Itauma systematically breaks down Whyte, rather than going all-out for a show reel knock out.

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Moses Itauma | PPV - 16 August 2025

Posted: 04 Aug 2025, 11:00
by THEBUTCH
Prior to pummeling Haye, Thompson was coming in off a tumultuous stoppage win over Rothman, who was bang in form.

Whyte looks washed up and spent at anywhere near world level.

I'm not convinced yet with all the bluster about Itauma, but Whyte will need a miracle....or something else to enable him to win ;-)

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Moses Itauma | PPV - 16 August 2025

Posted: 04 Aug 2025, 11:27
by Coco
THEBUTCH wrote: 04 Aug 2025, 11:00 Prior to pummeling Haye, Thompson was coming in off a tumultuous stoppage win over Rothman, who was bang in form.

Whyte looks washed up and spent at anywhere near world level.

I'm not convinced yet with all the bluster about Itauma, but Whyte will need a miracle....or something else to enable him to win ;-)
Portuguese training camp?

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Moses Itauma | PPV - 16 August 2025

Posted: 04 Aug 2025, 14:09
by tony1234
THEBUTCH wrote: 04 Aug 2025, 11:00 but Whyte will need a miracle....or something else to enable him to win ;-)
Or some eggs ?

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Moses Itauma | PPV - 16 August 2025

Posted: 04 Aug 2025, 14:38
by smiling assassin
It’s hard to see what Itauma really is until he gets chin checked or has been in with someone who is proven. I’ve never rated Whyte and always thought he’s average in a poor era of heavyweights. If Itauma blasts Whyte out of there I still don’t think we are any further on in knowing where he’s truly at.

In saying that I think he does look very very good

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Moses Itauma | PPV - 16 August 2025

Posted: 04 Aug 2025, 15:21
by joshj909
smiling assassin wrote: 04 Aug 2025, 14:38 It’s hard to see what Itauma really is until he gets chin checked or has been in with someone who is proven. I’ve never rated Whyte and always thought he’s average in a poor era of heavyweights. If Itauma blasts Whyte out of there I still don’t think we are any further on in knowing where he’s truly at.

In saying that I think he does look very very good
I'd probably be more impressed if Itauma beats Whyte by wide decision than if he flattens him in a few rounds and uses a wide skill set to win the points. We've not seen him do anything except blast opponents away in a quick flurry which is not necessarily a bad thing but we don't know too much about how well he can do other things

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Moses Itauma | PPV - 16 August 2025

Posted: 04 Aug 2025, 16:51
by smiling assassin
joshj909 wrote: 04 Aug 2025, 15:21
smiling assassin wrote: 04 Aug 2025, 14:38 It’s hard to see what Itauma really is until he gets chin checked or has been in with someone who is proven. I’ve never rated Whyte and always thought he’s average in a poor era of heavyweights. If Itauma blasts Whyte out of there I still don’t think we are any further on in knowing where he’s truly at.

In saying that I think he does look very very good
I'd probably be more impressed if Itauma beats Whyte by wide decision than if he flattens him in a few rounds and uses a wide skill set to win the points. We've not seen him do anything except blast opponents away in a quick flurry which is not necessarily a bad thing but we don't know too much about how well he can do other things
I get where your coming from but if Itauma is going to be as good as they want us to believe whyte shouldn’t be hearing the final bell