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Re: Pat Brown vs. Vasil Ducar | DAZN - 3 April 2026

Posted: 04 Apr 2026, 14:34
by golden_labrador
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 04 Apr 2026, 10:29
golden_labrador wrote: 04 Apr 2026, 10:18
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 04 Apr 2026, 07:22

That's usually the case.. He's still campaigning at CW, but until now, non of his fights have had a belt on the line. so usualy they agree they can go over the limit.
do they agree on a limit beforehand? how does this work exactly? and only at CW? not doubting you
Any weight. It's any boxers. when they start up, they don't usualy make the actual weight limits. it's not that important early on.

Look at Usyk's first few fights, slightly over 200 pounds and one was 206 pounds,

Catterall was super lightweight, but they weighed between 140 to 145 for his first few fights.

it's agreed between both boxers, so it's fair.

Amir Khan fought between 135 to 140 up until he had to actually make a specific weight for the first belt he fought for.

These are just some examples, but if you look at any boxers earlier career, up until they fight for a title or an eliminator where it's sanctioned, the they don't make always a specific weight limit,
TIL. cheers for the explanation :salut:

Re: Pat Brown vs. Vasil Ducar | DAZN - 3 April 2026

Posted: 04 Apr 2026, 20:10
by JackGlad
Controversial wrote: 04 Apr 2026, 07:06 Just out of interest, Brown has always been referred to as being a CW but looking at his record he weighed over 200lbs for all his previous fights prior to last night when he weighed in at 199lbs (he was 210lb for one fight). How can he be rated as a CW when he's mainly boxed over the CW limit?
As a Matchmaker it’s very rare you ever match it for championship weight unless it’s a Eliminator or Title fight the BUI do have a rule generally you have to of weighed in within 3lbs of championship weight the fight prior to a title fight.

Re: Pat Brown vs. Vasil Ducar | DAZN - 3 April 2026

Posted: 04 Apr 2026, 20:35
by Controversial
JackGlad wrote: 04 Apr 2026, 20:10
Controversial wrote: 04 Apr 2026, 07:06 Just out of interest, Brown has always been referred to as being a CW but looking at his record he weighed over 200lbs for all his previous fights prior to last night when he weighed in at 199lbs (he was 210lb for one fight). How can he be rated as a CW when he's mainly boxed over the CW limit?
As a Matchmaker it’s very rare you ever match it for championship weight unless it’s a Eliminator or Title fight the BUI do have a rule generally you have to of weighed in within 3lbs of championship weight the fight prior to a title fight.
Ah ok thank you

Re: Pat Brown vs. Vasil Ducar | DAZN - 3 April 2026

Posted: 05 Apr 2026, 05:47
by JC
JackGlad wrote: 04 Apr 2026, 20:10
Controversial wrote: 04 Apr 2026, 07:06 Just out of interest, Brown has always been referred to as being a CW but looking at his record he weighed over 200lbs for all his previous fights prior to last night when he weighed in at 199lbs (he was 210lb for one fight). How can he be rated as a CW when he's mainly boxed over the CW limit?
As a Matchmaker it’s very rare you ever match it for championship weight unless it’s a Eliminator or Title fight the BUI do have a rule generally you have to of weighed in within 3lbs of championship weight the fight prior to a title fight.
I was wondering something about matchmaking the other day.

After Itauma Franklin, I’ve seen people saying they want to see Moses in with someone who can punch.

As a matchmaker, would you deliberately put a prospect in with a puncher for that experience the way you might with a durable fighter to get rounds?

Re: Pat Brown vs. Vasil Ducar | DAZN - 3 April 2026

Posted: 05 Apr 2026, 18:23
by JackGlad
JC wrote: 05 Apr 2026, 05:47
JackGlad wrote: 04 Apr 2026, 20:10
Controversial wrote: 04 Apr 2026, 07:06 Just out of interest, Brown has always been referred to as being a CW but looking at his record he weighed over 200lbs for all his previous fights prior to last night when he weighed in at 199lbs (he was 210lb for one fight). How can he be rated as a CW when he's mainly boxed over the CW limit?
As a Matchmaker it’s very rare you ever match it for championship weight unless it’s a Eliminator or Title fight the BUI do have a rule generally you have to of weighed in within 3lbs of championship weight the fight prior to a title fight.
I was wondering something about matchmaking the other day.

After Itauma Franklin, I’ve seen people saying they want to see Moses in with someone who can punch.

As a matchmaker, would you deliberately put a prospect in with a puncher for that experience the way you might with a durable fighter to get rounds?
Some might I wouldn’t why take unneeded damage.

Re: Pat Brown vs. Vasil Ducar | DAZN - 3 April 2026

Posted: 05 Apr 2026, 18:26
by gilgamesh
JC wrote: 05 Apr 2026, 05:47
JackGlad wrote: 04 Apr 2026, 20:10
Controversial wrote: 04 Apr 2026, 07:06 Just out of interest, Brown has always been referred to as being a CW but looking at his record he weighed over 200lbs for all his previous fights prior to last night when he weighed in at 199lbs (he was 210lb for one fight). How can he be rated as a CW when he's mainly boxed over the CW limit?
As a Matchmaker it’s very rare you ever match it for championship weight unless it’s a Eliminator or Title fight the BUI do have a rule generally you have to of weighed in within 3lbs of championship weight the fight prior to a title fight.
I was wondering something about matchmaking the other day.

After Itauma Franklin, I’ve seen people saying they want to see Moses in with someone who can punch.

As a matchmaker, would you deliberately put a prospect in with a puncher for that experience the way you might with a durable fighter to get rounds?
If you're gonna face danger in Boxing you might as well face it for the most possible money. Right now there's still a few guys Moses could fight while moving upward toward title contention without being too especially dangerous.

Maybe a guy who can hit, but he'd have a significant speed advantage over would be fitting.

I suspect a guy like Hrgovic is going to be in his plans before the years end.

Re: Pat Brown vs. Vasil Ducar | DAZN - 3 April 2026

Posted: 06 Apr 2026, 04:26
by JC
JackGlad wrote: 05 Apr 2026, 18:23
JC wrote: 05 Apr 2026, 05:47
JackGlad wrote: 04 Apr 2026, 20:10

As a Matchmaker it’s very rare you ever match it for championship weight unless it’s a Eliminator or Title fight the BUI do have a rule generally you have to of weighed in within 3lbs of championship weight the fight prior to a title fight.
I was wondering something about matchmaking the other day.

After Itauma Franklin, I’ve seen people saying they want to see Moses in with someone who can punch.

As a matchmaker, would you deliberately put a prospect in with a puncher for that experience the way you might with a durable fighter to get rounds?
Some might I wouldn’t why take unneeded damage.
Cheers, Jack. Appreciate the reply. Always interesting hearing from someone who actually does this for a living.

Re: Pat Brown vs. Vasil Ducar | DAZN - 3 April 2026

Posted: 23 Apr 2026, 03:17
by Ruthless-RKO
'Devastated' Glenn Byrne forced to retire due to brain bleed

Irish boxer Glenn Byrne announced Wednesday that his career is effectively over, less than three weeks after he was stretchered out of the ring following a knockout loss in England.

The 29-year-old Byrne, 7-1-1 (1 KO), revealed that he had suffered a brain bleed from his one punch knockout loss to William Crolla, which took place on April 3 in Cheshire, England. The knockout came at the culmination of a thrilling junior middleweight fight where Crolla, 10-1 (8 KOs), was down four times in the fight before one overhand left changed the result and ended a career.

“The journey has come to an end,” Byrne of Loughlinstown, Ireland wrote on Instagram.

“Not in the way I ever wanted, but unfortunately after my last fight I am no longer medically cleared to compete. The damage I suffered resulted in a bleed on my brain, and doctors have advised me not to continue fighting. I’m devastated, to say the least, but I’m also very fortunate that my injuries weren’t worse and that I’m in good health.”

Byrne, who had turned pro less than two years ago, expressed pride in what he was able to accomplish in his career, which included fighting in major arenas like Dublin's 3Arena, The SSE Arena in Belfast and Dublin's National Stadium.

“Boxing started as a hobby for me, but it’s something I always gave 100% to, and I truly believe I earned every opportunity that came my way,” said Byrne, who expressed gratitude towards, among others, his older brother and manager Jay Byrne.

Among those who had wished him well in his post-boxing career was Crolla, commenting on his post: “Good luck with everything Glenn I wish you nothing but the best! It was a pleasure to share the ring with you!” Crolla’s older brother, former WBA lightweight titleholder Anthony Crolla, also spoke highly of Byrne, writing “You’re one of best people you can meet. You’ve got an amazing family and people around you. You’re gonna be a success with whatever you do in life.”