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Posted: 24 Sep 2007, 19:17
by DaveV17
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Posted: 25 Sep 2007, 16:35
by I Feel Fine
Perhaps that quoted section could have been a little clearer, but if you knew boxing history-which you clearly don't- you would understand my point. Holmes got old and lost to Tyson in the same way Ali got old and lost to Holmes.

Posted: 25 Sep 2007, 22:31
by Robinson
In regards to the Holmes-Tyson fight, for those 3 rounds before Tyson KO'd Holmes. Holmes was more game and competitive than Ali was at any stage in the Ali-Holmes fight. Sure it went longer, but Tyson went for the kill, whereas Holmes clearly was reluctant on a great mant occasions.

Holmes atleast landed a punch. Let alone threw one.


As for Patterson as a fighter, it was after that he lost his title that he took on a more reckless appraoch to opponents. Sure he wasn't the biggest guy or had the sturdiest chin. But when he moved he looked good. The trouble was as the years wore on he became less active and would rely on flurries and spurts, as well as loaded up power shots to get the job done and this sadly cost him the nod on more than one occasion. (Ellis, Quarry).

Kym

Posted: 25 Sep 2007, 22:32
by I Feel Fine
As I said, Holmes was clearly in better shape. The point I was making was that I would pick a prime Holmes to beat a prime Tyson, but Holmes was too old at that point and was coming off a layoff.

Posted: 26 Sep 2007, 00:04
by Robinson
Sorry I mis-read...was at work when I posted.


I agree...I think realistically Holmes is one of the few champs in history that could beat a peak Tyson.

Though I know there are a few forum members here who think that Sullivan or Jefferies would have been able to lick them both one after the other.

Kym