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Re: Australian P4P list

Posted: 09 Sep 2008, 04:02
by Sweet P
thunderfromdownunder wrote:
ben k wrote:I was going to move Katsidis down to 3 but i thought if Mundine fought the best 2 fighters in his weight he would get beaten also. And if Mike took the soft options he would not have lost yet.
against kessler, yes, but who is the other top fighter at 168? Bute, Froch? mundines wins over Green and Soliman are worth more than anything those two have ever done. and in a p4p sense, Mundine is a better fighter that katsidis anyway. better speed, defence, movement ect.
oh btw i am NOT a mundine fan, just my opinion
Calzaghe just moved up, Katsidis would beat guys his weight like SIACA without much trouble at all. Every fighter can have his record disected and Mundine has continually taken the soft option. Katsidis shouldnt be penalised for taking on the best in his division twice in a row.

Re: Australian P4P list

Posted: 10 Sep 2008, 03:48
by Hounddawg
ben k wrote:
thunderfromdownunder wrote:
ben k wrote:I was going to move Katsidis down to 3 but i thought if Mundine fought the best 2 fighters in his weight he would get beaten also. And if Mike took the soft options he would not have lost yet.
against kessler, yes, but who is the other top fighter at 168? Bute, Froch? mundines wins over Green and Soliman are worth more than anything those two have ever done. and in a p4p sense, Mundine is a better fighter that katsidis anyway. better speed, defence, movement ect.
oh btw i am NOT a mundine fan, just my opinion
Calzaghe just moved up, Katsidis would beat guys his weight like SIACA without much trouble at all. Every fighter can have his record disected and Mundine has continually taken the soft option. Katsidis shouldnt be penalised for taking on the best in his division twice in a row.
Yeah.... what he said.

Re: Australian P4P list

Posted: 05 Oct 2008, 20:58
by unleash06
bump...just thought I would share with the guys on forum who don't suscribe to FIST magazine, their current top ten P4P collated by Paul Upham.His criteria was...wins over quality opposition....recent form....world titles won and lost....performances in pressure fights....ability to fight well away from home....training quality....sheer talent...and recognised potential should all be considered.

1. Darchinyan
2. Mundine
3. Katsidis
4. Bika
5. Ndou
6. Geale
7. Dib
8. Kickett
9. St Clair
10. Zappavigna

be interesting to compare with your own top ten P4P. :box:

Re: Australian P4P list

Posted: 05 Oct 2008, 23:40
by Hounddawg
Yeah, i would agree to an extent.

Meehan, where would he be ranked in the FIST Magazine.

Re: Australian P4P list

Posted: 06 Oct 2008, 00:10
by unleash06
hound dog he just listed another 10-12 blokes who are there abouts and needing good win to displace some one. meehan,lovett,both hussein bros, hoppa, mirovic,taylor etc. mostly blokes who wouldn't make it IMO.

Re: Australian P4P list

Posted: 06 Oct 2008, 01:51
by toppity
Marlin wrote:The Official Australian Boxing Forum P4P Rankings
As voted by forum members.

1. Vic Darchinyan
2. Michael Katsidis
3. Anthony Mundine
4. Daniel Geale
5. Lovemore N'dou
6. Sakio Bika
7. Sam Soliman
8. Kali Meehan
9. Billy Dib
10. William Kickett
bump. thats our list. similar names no soli or meehan in paul's list. replaced by StClair and Zappa

Re: Australian P4P list

Posted: 06 Oct 2008, 02:16
by bollox
Anthony's a bit low is he not? I'm surprised to see that the best fighter in the world isn't even the best fighter in NSW :o ;;-)

Re: Australian P4P list

Posted: 06 Oct 2008, 17:35
by toppity
bollox wrote:Anthony's a bit low is he not? I'm surprised to see that the best fighter in the world isn't even the best fighter in NSW :o ;;-)
:lol:

Re: Australian P4P list

Posted: 12 Oct 2008, 20:07
by Marlin
Should we have a vote on Tim Bell? I might vote him to number one... :-? :cry:

Re: Australian P4P list

Posted: 12 Oct 2008, 21:44
by unleash06
Marlin wrote:Should we have a vote on Tim Bell? I might vote him to number one... :-? :cry:
not if heath stenton is the best L/H in the country!!!!! :roll:

Re: Australian P4P list

Posted: 13 Oct 2008, 00:30
by toppity
unleash06 wrote:
Marlin wrote:Should we have a vote on Tim Bell? I might vote him to number one... :-? :cry:
not if heath stenton is the best L/H in the country!!!!! :roll:
:lol:

Re: Australian P4P list

Posted: 02 Nov 2008, 17:36
by Marlin
The Official Australian Boxing Forum P4P Rankings
As voted by forum members.

1. Vic Darchinyan
2. Michael Katsidis
3. Anthony Mundine
4. Daniel Geale
5. Lovemore N'dou
6. Sakio Bika
7. Sam Soliman
8. Kali Meehan
9. Billy Dib
10. William Kickett


__________________________________________________________________________________

Since last update:

Billy Dib LUD Steven Luevano 113-115 112-116 111-117 ~ WBO featherweight title ~

Vic Darchinyan WKO9 Cristian Mijares ~ IBF super flyweight title ~ ~ WBA super flyweight title ~ ~ WBC super flyweight title ~

Please vote

Billy Dib - Up to #
--------- Down to #
--------- No Change
--------- Off list (vote someone else in at #10)

Vic Darchinyan - Up to #
---------------- Down to #
---------------- No Change
---------------- Off list (vote someone else in at #10)

Re: Australian P4P list

Posted: 02 Nov 2008, 17:37
by Marlin
My vote:

Darchinyan - No Change
Dib - No Change

Re: Australian P4P list

Posted: 02 Nov 2008, 17:44
by unleash06
ditto, marlin.

Re: Australian P4P list

Posted: 02 Nov 2008, 18:57
by toppity
the raging bull seals the top spot....no change
Dilly the glib kid out....gone....see ya later aligator....
and kapow in comes the Zappa. bang.....at No10.

Re: Australian P4P list

Posted: 02 Nov 2008, 19:12
by cace
vic-no change
dib no change

Re: Australian P4P list

Posted: 03 Nov 2008, 02:32
by Hounddawg
toppity wrote:the raging bull seals the top spot....no change
Dilly the glib kid out....gone....see ya later aligator....
and kapow in comes the Zappa. bang.....at No10.
Everything you have stated i agree :TU:

Re: Australian P4P list

Posted: 03 Nov 2008, 02:38
by razor7
No change. Zappa has as yet fought no one, while the annoying Dib has gone 12 rounds in two world title fights. We would all like Zappa be in there but at this stage you can't justify it simply because Dib aggravates you.

Re: Australian P4P list

Posted: 04 Nov 2008, 19:25
by toppity
^^ i just did :P

Re: Australian P4P list

Posted: 04 Nov 2008, 19:40
by Sweet P
Dib out, Chris Mccullan in after his win over Cottrell

Re: Australian P4P list

Posted: 04 Nov 2008, 20:31
by Marlin
A few more votes and I will tally it up...

Re: Australian P4P list

Posted: 04 Nov 2008, 22:26
by convict

Code: Select all

1. Darchinyan
2. Mundine
3. Katsidis
4. Dib
5. Bika 
6. Ndou
7. Geale
8. Kali Meehan
9. St Clair
10. Sam Soliman
Thats my vote.

Re: Australian P4P list

Posted: 06 Nov 2008, 04:10
by toppity
bump

Re: Australian P4P list

Posted: 06 Nov 2008, 17:17
by Marlin
convict wrote:

Code: Select all

1. Darchinyan
2. Mundine
3. Katsidis
4. Dib
5. Bika 
6. Ndou
7. Geale
8. Kali Meehan
9. St Clair
10. Sam Soliman
Thats my vote.
That doesn't count as a vote. You can only vote on blokes who have fought, so only Dib and Vic can move in this vote (apart from fighters moving up or down a spot to accomodate a voted move).

Re: Australian P4P list

Posted: 06 Nov 2008, 17:26
by Marlin
Well after a massive influx of votes there are no changes.


The Official Australian Boxing Forum P4P Rankings
As voted by forum members.

1. Vic Darchinyan
2. Michael Katsidis
3. Anthony Mundine
4. Daniel Geale
5. Lovemore N'dou
6. Sakio Bika
7. Sam Soliman
8. Kali Meehan
9. Billy Dib
10. William Kickett