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mickey1975 wrote: ↑08 Mar 2023, 15:26

Oiky wrote: ↑08 Mar 2023, 15:10 None of the big fights will happen

Garcia v Davies and Inoue v Fulton?

I mentioned them in another thread as 2 I'm looking forward too alongside plant-benavidez, but in general pro boxing is washed at the moment

So many fights over the years don't happen or happen 5year after they matter

big lennox wrote: ↑08 Mar 2023, 13:26

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑08 Mar 2023, 11:52 Flippin Rick.



We BoxRecer’s are not casuals. We not blind.

Let's see if Rick's predictions come to pass.

Who even is he?

Really good insight into the negotiations with Uysk's promoter:

big lennox wrote: ↑08 Mar 2023, 19:10 Really good insight into the negotiations with Uysk's promoter:

Well there you have it" Even if Usyk took zero, there still wouldn't be enough money to pay Tyson what he wants".

Fight ain't happening, mods lock the thread.

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑09 Mar 2023, 03:36

big lennox wrote: ↑08 Mar 2023, 19:10 Really good insight into the negotiations with Uysk's promoter:

Well there you have it" Even if Usyk took zero, there still wouldn't be enough money to pay Tyson what he wants".

Fight ain't happening, mods lock the thread.

It's hard to draw any other conclusion than Fury has priced himself out of the fight.

That can't be true....

https://www.tmz.com/2019/09/13/tyson-fu ... to-wallin/

https://www.mylondon.news/sport/other-s ... g-21597503

Theres enough money in this that if anyone truely wanted it it would be made...

-Usyk could offer to take 30%...
-Fury could offer to take 50%...

I think in either of those situations the fight gets made. and if it dosent the one not accepting is to blame. I think it probably should be 60-40 ish, and so the battle will continue, but if either really wants it they can make it and still make millllions.

gregregegg wrote: ↑09 Mar 2023, 04:41 Theres enough money in this that if anyone truely wanted it it would be made...

-Usyk could offer to take 30%...
-Fury could offer to take 50%...

I think in either of those situations the fight gets made. and if it dosent the one not accepting is to blame. I think it probably should be 60-40 ish, and so the battle will continue, but if either really wants it they can make it and still make millllions.

Why should Usyk take less than a third of the money, he brings 3 belts and watching that even if he fought for free Tyson wouldn't accept

Fury in his whole carreer is now more notable for who he's ducked rather than who he's fought , his resume is 2 yes TWO fights where people were not sure of the outcome , remember before he fought Klitchko he was becoming renouned for ducking and refusing competetive fights , them two fights sort of brought him back in the mix now he's back to normal , sick of reading about him and his bullshit mental health issues , and all the other crap , Lock the thread don't allow any more threads about him let him become insignificant and find his true place in the history of heavyweights , WAAAAY , DOWN THE LIST.

mONEY IS THE EXCUSE FOR THE DUCK NOT THE REASON he's been offered 50-50 of a large pot and offered 60-40 to the winnere of a large pot , , he's got enough money but not enough balls or confidence , facts are he does'nt care about money thats obvious , because someone who was bothered about money would'nt let them millions slip away and with the AJ duck via a wilder fight , then via a stupid deadline , now via whatever reason , its obvious the man does'nt care about losing millions ,, he would rather lose millions than his 0 .

So expect Wilder or Chisora or Whyte , i dunno anyone he's sure of beating , but don,t hold your breath for Usyk or even Ruiz ,hope the next show of his fails bigtime

big lennox wrote: ↑08 Mar 2023, 19:10 Really good insight into the negotiations with Uysk's promoter:

Class act. It's easy when you're telling the truth. It must be so frustrating for them.

The Gratest wrote: ↑09 Mar 2023, 04:34 That can't be true....

https://www.tmz.com/2019/09/13/tyson-fu ... to-wallin/

https://www.mylondon.news/sport/other-s ... g-21597503

Fury’s never wanted any part of Usyk. ‘He’s a middleweight’, ‘he’s too small’, ‘he doesn’t speak English’, ‘he lost to Chisora’, ‘AJ will smash him’.

You can tell even by his reactions in videos, every time he’s even asked about Usyk he takes a different tone. When you compare that to been asked about AJ, Wilder & Whyte where you can tell he’s very confident of winning them fights.

You’ve got one guy in Usyk who’s fought everybody in their backyards & has never once publicly had issues over making fights.

And then you’ve got a pathological liar in Fury who’s constantly had trouble making fights but let’s not forget ‘money doesn’t matter to him’ & he lets also not forget he ‘gives his purses to charity’. So it seems bizarre that money seems to be a problem from Fury’s side.

To clear this up, someone should post up a critical reference to a different boxer, other than Fury or Usyk, that will somehow draw the attention away from Fury ducking Usyk. That should help

big lennox wrote: ↑09 Mar 2023, 03:50

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑09 Mar 2023, 03:36

big lennox wrote: ↑08 Mar 2023, 19:10 Really good insight into the negotiations with Uysk's promoter:

Well there you have it" Even if Usyk took zero, there still wouldn't be enough money to pay Tyson what he wants".

Fight ain't happening, mods lock the thread.

It's hard to draw any other conclusion than Fury has priced himself out of the fight.

that is my conclusion but no doubt there are reasons behind this position :
not ready or carrying niggles .
doesnt really think he can beat Usyk .
wants to delay until the fight can be made in saudi for daft money .
he is just being a twat as usual .

Greedy, grasping, selfish top boxers are ruining the sport with their ridiculous demands,

How many tacky, garish, absurd suits does a married man who lives in Morecambe really need ?

CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑09 Mar 2023, 07:12 Greedy, grasping, selfish top boxers are ruining the sport with their ridiculous demands,

How many tacky, garish, absurd suits does a married man who lives in Morecambe really need ?

Perhaps he will buy the whole town, like a latter-day Larry Holmes. Frankly he’s welcome to it - the place is a complete shit-hole! And I speak as a local to the area.

“Anthony Joshua fought Oleksandr Usyk back to back with no f**king problems,” said Eddie Hearn to iFL TV when asked about his thoughts on the Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk negotiations not progressing due to an impasse over money.

“No questions, no long negotiations. ‘That’s my mandatory, I’ll fight him.’ Everybody said, ‘Swerve Oleksandr Usyk, that’s a tough, tough fight. You don’t want to fight him.’ AJ said, ‘No, I’ll fight him. I want to be undisputed. Give me Usyk.’

“Done. The rematch comes in, ‘Oh, you don’t want to fight Usyk. You need a warm-up fight.’ ‘Give me Usyk,'” said Hearn about what Anthony Joshua said.

“When are you guys going to start understanding? ‘It’s not about money. I’ll fight him for free, as long as the tickets are free for the general public,'” said Hearn, making fun of Tyson Fury.

“F**k off; you want money. You want too much money, and you’re not the draw that you think you are. That fight [Fury vs. Usyk] isn’t as big as you think it is.

“Everyone talks about big fights in the Middle East with heavyweight world championships. Well, guess what? There’s only one person that has delivered big fights in the Middle East, and that’s mwah. Three fights, three heavyweight world championships. Two in Saudi Arabia and the big card in Abu Dhabi as well.

“Greed, if you’re about legacy and you want to be undisputed, then you take the fight,” said Hearn in scolding Tyson Fury to take the fight with Oleksandr Usyk.

“Oh, you’re going to get 50 or 60 million instead of the 80 or 100 or 125 million that you asked for.

“F**k me, you’ve all been played all these years, but concentrate on one thing. April the 1st at the O2 Arena. AJ is back against Jermaine Franklin. Never ducked anybody. Never tried to escape from fights.”

Eddie Hearn put all your energy into shifting the 8,000 Joshua vs Franklin UNSOLD tickets.


April 1st FOOLS day is fast approaching

quickeyg wrote: ↑09 Mar 2023, 12:25 Eddie Hearn put all your energy into shifting the 8,000 Joshua vs Franklin UNSOLD tickets.


April 1st FOOLS day is fast approaching

To be fair to Hearn he is just talking about AJ being vastly more courageous than the fighting man's peoples champ, which is clearly the case.

ashall2 wrote: ↑08 Mar 2023, 07:32Fury will play hardball until Usyk moves on and announces another fight for which then Fury can come out with 'the shithouse middleweight dosser didn't want no smoke with the Gypsy King' bla bla.

Usyk and Krassyuk have played a blinder so far, staying on Fury's hook long after he's stopped reeling.

They know if he's fighting someone else in April they can wait for him to walk first.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑08 Mar 2023, 11:52Flippin Rick.

https://twitter.com/RealRickGlaser1/photo

If you enlarge his photo, that bloke on the left's thinking “What a tit!”. Looks like a Paul Whitehouse character.

Fury is killing his own reputation, can’t call himself undisputed at a later date if, if he dodged Usyk

glaser has admitted to making up totally fake ppv numbers just for attention, he's a weird guy

Good to see that pretty much every single media outlet is now calling Fury out for his bollocks.

About time he got held accountable for something. Got away with avoiding questions far too long on a number of things - his PED ban, his fake charity donations etc.

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑09 Mar 2023, 04:51

gregregegg wrote: ↑09 Mar 2023, 04:41 Theres enough money in this that if anyone truely wanted it it would be made...

-Usyk could offer to take 30%...
-Fury could offer to take 50%...

I think in either of those situations the fight gets made. and if it dosent the one not accepting is to blame. I think it probably should be 60-40 ish, and so the battle will continue, but if either really wants it they can make it and still make millllions.

Why should Usyk take less than a third of the money, he brings 3 belts and watching that even if he fought for free Tyson wouldn't accept

I’m not saying he should. I’m saying it’s about a 60-40 because usyk has the belts but Tyson is seen as the number 1 (not me I got em even). My point is if it’s about a 60-40 split, either guy can make the fight by going a bit in the others favour and still make fvckloads.

30% vs fury for undisputed is a lotttt more than 70%vs Joyce or hrg.

(Ps those numbers are no rematch numbers so if ya usyk and win you offer the rematch but 70-30ish your way. And make squillions)

gregregegg wrote: ↑09 Mar 2023, 17:11

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑09 Mar 2023, 04:51

gregregegg wrote: ↑09 Mar 2023, 04:41 Theres enough money in this that if anyone truely wanted it it would be made...

-Usyk could offer to take 30%...
-Fury could offer to take 50%...

I think in either of those situations the fight gets made. and if it dosent the one not accepting is to blame. I think it probably should be 60-40 ish, and so the battle will continue, but if either really wants it they can make it and still make millllions.

Why should Usyk take less than a third of the money, he brings 3 belts and watching that even if he fought for free Tyson wouldn't accept

I’m not saying he should. I’m saying it’s about a 60-40 because usyk has the belts but Tyson is seen as the number 1 (not me I got em even). My point is if it’s about a 60-40 split, either guy can make the fight by going a bit in the others favour and still make fvckloads.

30% vs fury for undisputed is a lotttt more than 70%vs Joyce or hrg.

(Ps those numbers are no rematch numbers so if ya usyk and win you offer the rematch but 70-30ish your way. And make squillions)

Fury isn't asking for a percentage, he's asking for an amount in £'s.