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coneye wrote: ↑31 Jul 2023, 06:43

mickey1975 wrote: ↑31 Jul 2023, 06:02

maverick23 wrote: ↑31 Jul 2023, 05:41 George is always a good listen. Doesn’t seem to get involved the promotional bluster and bullshit.

They tried to make the fight with 3 guys. AJ who didn’t want it as immediate future was planned, Usyk who withdrew from negotiations primarily due to Tyson being unreasonable on the negotiations and Ruiz who they claim had stupid demands (he disputes that).

Rather than pick someone else in the top 15 they went for the money fight.

I get it but it’s the man who claims he doesn’t fight for the money and by the end of the year the only pro boxer he’d have faced in the previous 20 months will have been Del Boy in a trilogy fight.

Interesting that George was saying Goldstar were responsible for the relationship with the new Saudi guys. Does Tyson need to keep Bob and Frank involved?

The writing is on the wall for Fwank. Tyson was an awful lot closer to Meaty Mick and he got the push.

Yep and when it does happen Fwank will become the jilted lover and tell all

Nah not like he ever gets bitter about things.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑31 Jul 2023, 04:19 Good interview with George Warren where he debunks all the myths around Tyson ducking.

Oh so fans should be so gullible and just believe whatever he spouts out .. dont think so

stevec@france wrote: ↑31 Jul 2023, 11:40

mickey1975 wrote: ↑31 Jul 2023, 04:19 Good interview with George Warren where he debunks all the myths around Tyson ducking.

Oh so fans should be so gullible and just believe whatever he spouts out .. dont think so

Who do we believe? George clearly says they've had one provisional offer to face Usyk in February just gone. It was accepted, then Skills Challenge withdrew it. Nothing since.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑31 Jul 2023, 11:44

stevec@france wrote: ↑31 Jul 2023, 11:40

mickey1975 wrote: ↑31 Jul 2023, 04:19 Good interview with George Warren where he debunks all the myths around Tyson ducking.

Oh so fans should be so gullible and just believe whatever he spouts out .. dont think so

Who do we believe? George clearly says they've had one provisional offer to face Usyk in February just gone. It was accepted, then Skills Challenge withdrew it. Nothing since.

Mate he doesn't want to fight him, clear as daylight

mickey1975 wrote: ↑31 Jul 2023, 11:44

stevec@france wrote: ↑31 Jul 2023, 11:40

mickey1975 wrote: ↑31 Jul 2023, 04:19 Good interview with George Warren where he debunks all the myths around Tyson ducking.

Oh so fans should be so gullible and just believe whatever he spouts out .. dont think so

Who do we believe? George clearly says they've had one provisional offer to face Usyk in February just gone. It was accepted, then Skills Challenge withdrew it. Nothing since.

You must be the only person who follows boxing that didn`t know Usyk had agreed in February to Furys term of 30% split to fight him. Most people also know that Fury then started other demands to weasel out of the fight .. and Usyk then decided it not worth wasting any more time.

Did you need George to inform you of that Mick?

Fury wouldn't agree to a rematch clause with the WBA/IBF/WBO and Ring Magazine champion............
..........but insisted on one for a fight against a debutant.

Luke has become a laughing stock.

maverick23 wrote: ↑31 Jul 2023, 05:41
They tried to make the fight with 3 guys. AJ who didn’t want it as immediate future was planned,

AJ turned it down twice in 9 months and didn’t have a fight signed either time. In the real world he turned it down to fight Franklin and then turned it down again to fight Whyte. Him fighting Wilder this year is a pipe dream.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑31 Jul 2023, 11:44

stevec@france wrote: ↑31 Jul 2023, 11:40

mickey1975 wrote: ↑31 Jul 2023, 04:19 Good interview with George Warren where he debunks all the myths around Tyson ducking.

Oh so fans should be so gullible and just believe whatever he spouts out .. dont think so

Who do we believe? George clearly says they've had one provisional offer to face Usyk in February just gone. It was accepted, then Skills Challenge withdrew it. Nothing since.

Do we believe the man in the negotiations or the knitting circle off here blinded by hatred?

tonyevs wrote: ↑31 Jul 2023, 13:03

mickey1975 wrote: ↑31 Jul 2023, 11:44

stevec@france wrote: ↑31 Jul 2023, 11:40

Oh so fans should be so gullible and just believe whatever he spouts out .. dont think so

Who do we believe? George clearly says they've had one provisional offer to face Usyk in February just gone. It was accepted, then Skills Challenge withdrew it. Nothing since.

You must be the only person who follows boxing that didn`t know Usyk had agreed in February to Furys term of 30% split to fight him. Most people also know that Fury then started other demands to weasel out of the fight .. and Usyk then decided it not worth wasting any more time.

Did you need George to inform you of that Mick?

Tone, I think you should watch it. He was, you know, present through it all. You might learn something.

I'll give it a swerve thanks mate - I'd feel more assured listening to your mole on such matters ..


It's all Fury fan-bois delusions and confabulations.


When Doofus and Dribble are the only ones agreeing with you Mick; I'd suggest giving your head a wobble mate

His ducking, diving , lying , bullshitting , its all part of his game he's been doing it for years , whats more he could'nt give a stuff , his legacy Pfttt what legacy , he beat an old man , and he beat a guy 3 times who fought more tomatoe cans than he did . Furys legacy is'nt any more of a concern to him than it is to the gypsy tarmac layers , worrying about being known for being the best ashfelters in the job , he's been conning the public for years , and guess what GOOD ON HIM after all he's the one with the readys in the bank to look after himself , his wife and there kids forever and a day , but what is amazing is the amount of grown men who hero worship him and think his shite don't stink .

But his hero worshippers can only come out and defend him by pointing the finger at the other pommy great , AJ ,, well theres news there has well , for a while AJ was considered to be the best , but when you look at it , he got gifted the hometown medal at the Olympics , he had a path cut out and bought for him , his carreeer is /was littered with gimmee fights , and when he finally did meet a pure classy boxer , he got his arse handed too him TWICE .

There careers are similar , duck and dive to the top , handpick at the top , both wins over an old man at the end of his game , who we may add Fury was roided up for and refused to rematch him , both only really tested themselves once , Fury against the hype machine Wilder , 3 times , Aj against the great boxer Usyk , now both are more interested in milking there fame and glory to the hilt , there so similar its not worth arguing about .

Only thing you can take from it is AJ has gone overseas to train and try and improve ,Fury fights novices , so i suspect the next one we see willing to take on a name will probably be AJ , he's probably never been has skillful but has fought a great boxer twice , the other fella who will go down in history has the same calibre has Herbie Hide and Henry Akiwandie , well he'll just milk it , probably see him and Tommy doing a WWF tag team match , with Paul and Hulk Hogan next ,, followed by all the Fury boys and there father in a royal rumble against a Vince Macman and the wwf elite , with Paris has the referee in skimpy knickers.

Sorry to tell you people but heavyweight boxing led by Fury is just a pisstake and a joke , can't see why grown men , with good knoledge of the sport pander and defend theses clowns , , Then again i shake my head at idiots who pay to listen and get there photo took with thugs who claim to be mates with the Krays , yet born after they went to jail , , and football hooligans , who's claim to fame is they used to go team handed and kick the shit out of any other supporter they could find on his own

Time to give it a rest , stop buying there ppv , stop going to the shite matches , theres proper boxers out there who need and deserve your support , not theses clowns

tonyevs wrote: ↑01 Aug 2023, 01:12 I'll give it a swerve thanks mate - I'd feel more assured listening to your mole on such matters ..


It's all Fury fan-bois delusions and confabulations.


When Doofus and Dribble are the only ones agreeing with you Mick; I'd suggest giving your head a wobble mate

So you aren't prepared to listen to someone who was IN THE NEGOTIATIONS?
OK. Queensbury are also offering a £1m donation to anyone who can show any offer that was turned down to box Usyk. There must be loads ready to take that?

mickey1975 wrote: ↑01 Aug 2023, 02:49

tonyevs wrote: ↑01 Aug 2023, 01:12 I'll give it a swerve thanks mate - I'd feel more assured listening to your mole on such matters ..


It's all Fury fan-bois delusions and confabulations.


When Doofus and Dribble are the only ones agreeing with you Mick; I'd suggest giving your head a wobble mate

So you aren't prepared to listen to someone who was IN THE NEGOTIATIONS?
OK. Queensbury are also offering a £1m donation to anyone who can show any offer that was turned down to box Usyk. There must be loads ready to take that?

Is that £1 million pound Queensbury donation like Furys £million pound donation to the homeless charity Mick


* you are a lost cause Mick. I know you claim you post such nonsense as some sort of self-soothing humour. But I think it only honest to tell you - that outside of the two morons of Doofus and Dribble, everyone else is laughing at you and not with you mate

tonyevs wrote: ↑01 Aug 2023, 02:58

mickey1975 wrote: ↑01 Aug 2023, 02:49

tonyevs wrote: ↑01 Aug 2023, 01:12 I'll give it a swerve thanks mate - I'd feel more assured listening to your mole on such matters ..


It's all Fury fan-bois delusions and confabulations.


When Doofus and Dribble are the only ones agreeing with you Mick; I'd suggest giving your head a wobble mate

So you aren't prepared to listen to someone who was IN THE NEGOTIATIONS?
OK. Queensbury are also offering a £1m donation to anyone who can show any offer that was turned down to box Usyk. There must be loads ready to take that?

Is that £1 million pound Queensbury donation like Furys £million pound donation to the homeless charity Mick


* you are a lost cause Mick. I know you claim you post such nonsense as some sort of self-soothing humour. But I think it only honest to tell you - that outside of the two morons of Doofus and Dribble, everyone else is laughing at you and not with you mate

So, humour me. How do you know more than George W? I'm genuinely intrigued.

Seen a snippet of Fish Eyes where he calls out Froch for wanting the Jake Paul fight. Difference is Froch is retired, isn’t a current world champion and holding up his division. Froch faced anyone and everyone as champ. That’s the difference

BigDoofus wrote: ↑31 Jul 2023, 15:45

maverick23 wrote: ↑31 Jul 2023, 05:41
They tried to make the fight with 3 guys. AJ who didn’t want it as immediate future was planned,

AJ turned it down twice in 9 months and didn’t have a fight signed either time. In the real world he turned it down to fight Franklin and then turned it down again to fight Whyte. Him fighting Wilder this year is a pipe dream.

Do you remember when Fury turned down Joshua 5 years ago because he was offered 60/40?

Gran Hermano wrote: ↑01 Aug 2023, 03:46

BigDoofus wrote: ↑31 Jul 2023, 15:45

maverick23 wrote: ↑31 Jul 2023, 05:41
They tried to make the fight with 3 guys. AJ who didn’t want it as immediate future was planned,

AJ turned it down twice in 9 months and didn’t have a fight signed either time. In the real world he turned it down to fight Franklin and then turned it down again to fight Whyte. Him fighting Wilder this year is a pipe dream.

Do you remember when Fury turned down Joshua 5 years ago because he was offered 60/40?

No. I remember him boxing Wilder in 2018.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑31 Jul 2023, 16:29

tonyevs wrote: ↑31 Jul 2023, 13:03

mickey1975 wrote: ↑31 Jul 2023, 11:44
Who do we believe? George clearly says they've had one provisional offer to face Usyk in February just gone. It was accepted, then Skills Challenge withdrew it. Nothing since.

You must be the only person who follows boxing that didn`t know Usyk had agreed in February to Furys term of 30% split to fight him. Most people also know that Fury then started other demands to weasel out of the fight .. and Usyk then decided it not worth wasting any more time.

Did you need George to inform you of that Mick?

Tone, I think you should watch it. He was, you know, present through it all. You might learn something.

Why would he listen to somebody in the negotiations when he could read what Biglennox thinks on here?

mickey1975 wrote: ↑01 Aug 2023, 03:13

tonyevs wrote: ↑01 Aug 2023, 02:58

mickey1975 wrote: ↑01 Aug 2023, 02:49
So you aren't prepared to listen to someone who was IN THE NEGOTIATIONS?
OK. Queensbury are also offering a £1m donation to anyone who can show any offer that was turned down to box Usyk. There must be loads ready to take that?

Is that £1 million pound Queensbury donation like Furys £million pound donation to the homeless charity Mick


* you are a lost cause Mick. I know you claim you post such nonsense as some sort of self-soothing humour. But I think it only honest to tell you - that outside of the two morons of Doofus and Dribble, everyone else is laughing at you and not with you mate

So, humour me. How do you know more than George W? I'm genuinely intrigued.

He doesn’t. His views are based on “belief”.

BigDoofus wrote: ↑01 Aug 2023, 04:10

mickey1975 wrote: ↑01 Aug 2023, 03:13

tonyevs wrote: ↑01 Aug 2023, 02:58

Is that £1 million pound Queensbury donation like Furys £million pound donation to the homeless charity Mick


* you are a lost cause Mick. I know you claim you post such nonsense as some sort of self-soothing humour. But I think it only honest to tell you - that outside of the two morons of Doofus and Dribble, everyone else is laughing at you and not with you mate

So, humour me. How do you know more than George W? I'm genuinely intrigued.

He doesn’t. His views are based on “belief”.

Doofus....... if you're NOT biased, tell us all the bad things Fury's done.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑01 Aug 2023, 03:13

tonyevs wrote: ↑01 Aug 2023, 02:58

mickey1975 wrote: ↑01 Aug 2023, 02:49
So you aren't prepared to listen to someone who was IN THE NEGOTIATIONS?
OK. Queensbury are also offering a £1m donation to anyone who can show any offer that was turned down to box Usyk. There must be loads ready to take that?

Is that £1 million pound Queensbury donation like Furys £million pound donation to the homeless charity Mick


* you are a lost cause Mick. I know you claim you post such nonsense as some sort of self-soothing humour. But I think it only honest to tell you - that outside of the two morons of Doofus and Dribble, everyone else is laughing at you and not with you mate

So, humour me. How do you know more than George W? I'm genuinely intrigued.

You missing the point fella. It's not knowing more than him or anyone else - it's merely knowing when certain people like Fury, and those around him, are talking shite

Biased.

Heavily opinionated or one-sided.
Relies on unsupported or unsubstantiated claims.
Presents highly selected facts that lean to a certain outcome.
Pretends to present facts, but offers only opinion.
Uses extreme or inappropriate language.

I'll just leave it there.

tonyevs wrote: ↑01 Aug 2023, 04:43

mickey1975 wrote: ↑01 Aug 2023, 03:13

tonyevs wrote: ↑01 Aug 2023, 02:58

Is that £1 million pound Queensbury donation like Furys £million pound donation to the homeless charity Mick


* you are a lost cause Mick. I know you claim you post such nonsense as some sort of self-soothing humour. But I think it only honest to tell you - that outside of the two morons of Doofus and Dribble, everyone else is laughing at you and not with you mate

So, humour me. How do you know more than George W? I'm genuinely intrigued.

You missing the point fella. It's not knowing more than him or anyone else - it's merely knowing when certain people like Fury, and those around him, are talking shite

Mickey provided a link to the man in the negotiations. You refuse to watch it because it will test your “belief”.
And Mickey is missing the point?

Always great to have a neutral and non-biased report on things.

Is George Warren any relation to Fwank Warren, Tyson Fury's promoter?

BigDoofus wrote: ↑01 Aug 2023, 14:16

tonyevs wrote: ↑01 Aug 2023, 04:43

mickey1975 wrote: ↑01 Aug 2023, 03:13
So, humour me. How do you know more than George W? I'm genuinely intrigued.

You missing the point fella. It's not knowing more than him or anyone else - it's merely knowing when certain people like Fury, and those around him, are talking shite

Mickey provided a link to the man in the negotiations. You refuse to watch it because it will test your “belief”.
And Mickey is missing the point?

Doofus. Simple question for you. Do you believe everything that Eddie Hearn says in every interview?