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Posted: **03 Apr 2022, 05:31**

Dioufy wrote: ↑03 Apr 2022, 05:12 In his one month to go Instagram video he looks like a proper chunky bastard.
Yes… I know it’s Tyson… but we deffo aren’t seeing the same shape for Klit or Wilder 1.
For all his technical faults, Whyte is very strong and Tyson won’t be able to man-handle him like other fighters.
He needs to keep Whyte at range otherwise it could be a gruelling night.
Tyson is likely to be 275 and all I can see is a lean-fest and battle of attrition.
Tyson to outlast Dillian and get him out through sheer tiredness (like Parker nearly did) or for Tyson to nick a very close… maybe controversial decision.
This will not be easy if Tyson comes in heavy.
This could be the first fight where Tyson doesn’t have any strength advantage at all inside.

115-113 all round… one of those ones…

I think this gives Whyte a chance. If Tyson came in Klitschko shape then Whyte doesn’t get near him. This version of Tyson is far more hittable and whilst he’s shown an amazing chin/great recovery from a shot in the past it’s not impossible to think that his yo-yoing in weight and his knockdowns will catch up with him.

Posted: **03 Apr 2022, 05:33**

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑03 Apr 2022, 05:31 fury battered del inside in their first fight, he is very handy on the inside when he decides to fight there. all the slappy, long range moving stuff he started doing in his career made people forget about how good he could dig inside with uppercuts and to the body

my concern would be his conditioning and focus/motivation. he's the type who can have the most problems in the fights you dont expect him too.

The last Wilder fight should have taught him a lot about motivation and evaluating an opponent.

Posted: **03 Apr 2022, 05:58**

So what have you lads seen to suggest he's unmotivated and out of shape? I haven't seen anything about him. In his last fight it was well documented he had his son with him in the first camp, then his daughter in intensive care.....
I think he will be 100%.

Posted: **03 Apr 2022, 07:37**

mickey1975 wrote: ↑03 Apr 2022, 05:58 So what have you lads seen to suggest he's unmotivated and out of shape? I haven't seen anything about him. In his last fight it was well documented he had his son with him in the first camp, then his daughter in intensive care.....
I think he will be 100%.

Being quite fat would effect his movement, his cardio ability, hand speed, reaction time, number of punches he will take off Whyte …how will he be 100%? He might still have enough to edge the cards his way, but I think he will look quite poor and beatable doing it. I think he’s thoroughly in his wind down phase of his career. Not bet on boxing for years but might stick £20 on Whyte at 6 to 1, for the stoppage. Seems like very generous odds.

Posted: **03 Apr 2022, 16:54**

Be real about it , do people really think Whyte would even beat Wilder or would he get sparked

Posted: **03 Apr 2022, 18:12**

coneye wrote: ↑03 Apr 2022, 16:54 Be real about it , do people really think Whyte would even beat Wilder or would he get sparked

Whyte beats Wilder handily for me. I just don’t rate Wilder at all.

Posted: **03 Apr 2022, 18:20**

Frostieballs wrote: ↑03 Apr 2022, 18:12
coneye wrote: ↑03 Apr 2022, 16:54 Be real about it , do people really think Whyte would even beat Wilder or would he get sparked
Whyte beats Wilder handily for me. I just don’t rate Wilder at all.

Yeah, at 36 I can’t see Wilder facing up anyone now with much of a pulse. The extra muscle seems to have thrown his balance out. I don’t think he’s winning anything these days.

Posted: **04 Apr 2022, 04:35**

This fight build up is going very weird. One thing i know, If the show loses money frank will be suing Whyte... How much chance he has is an interesting question... but he will be having a crack.

Posted: **04 Apr 2022, 04:52**

polecateddy wrote: ↑03 Apr 2022, 18:20
Frostieballs wrote: ↑03 Apr 2022, 18:12
coneye wrote: ↑03 Apr 2022, 16:54 Be real about it , do people really think Whyte would even beat Wilder or would he get sparked
Whyte beats Wilder handily for me. I just don’t rate Wilder at all.
Yeah, at 36 I can’t see Wilder facing up anyone now with much of a pulse. The extra muscle seems to have thrown his balance out. I don’t think he’s winning anything these days.

He should retire. He'll be regarded as the second best heavyweight of this era.

Posted: **04 Apr 2022, 04:54**

by fury fans of course, quite the love affair they've developed with wilder for obvious reasons

dude has dom breazeale and bermane stiverne among the best 3 he's beaten in like 45 fights

aj has accomplished much more, usyk too has a win bigger than anything wilder did. probably would outpoint deontay, the #4 hw

Posted: **04 Apr 2022, 05:35**

gregregegg wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 04:35 This fight build up is going very weird. One thing i know, If the show loses money frank will be suing Whyte... How much chance he has is an interesting question... but he will be having a crack.

Not so sure he would win that one ,, Obviously were not privvy to the contracts , but it could be argued Frank sending him economy tickets to come over and promote on a cheap airline is putting the fight in jepordy covid and all that ,,, plus from what i've read His contract states he gets a certain low percentage and promoting is a seperate issue , purse bids make it Warrens problem ,, Plus no tickets for Whyte , its all games from Warren and Fury and it might bite them on the arse might not , if its sold out at the stadium Warren would'nt really have anything to go on ,if it does'nt sell out you would think Whyte would have a good answer in the fact they gave him no tickets too sell ,, choosing to give them to a secondary outlet , personaly i can't blame Whyte ,, just shows what Warren and Fury thing of the fans if them selling the tickets to secondary sources is true .

And i do blame Fury has much has Warren because Fury will be calling all shots here

Posted: **04 Apr 2022, 05:36**

mickey1975 wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 04:52
polecateddy wrote: ↑03 Apr 2022, 18:20
Frostieballs wrote: ↑03 Apr 2022, 18:12

Whyte beats Wilder handily for me. I just don’t rate Wilder at all.
Yeah, at 36 I can’t see Wilder facing up anyone now with much of a pulse. The extra muscle seems to have thrown his balance out. I don’t think he’s winning anything these days.
He should retire. He'll be regarded as the second best heavyweight of this era.

Second best?
His era overlapped Wlads, and Wilder did manage to duck him for two years.
Joshua has a better resume and is still boxing, and of course Tyson Fury who beat him 3 times, officially twice of course.

Posted: **04 Apr 2022, 05:38**

gregregegg wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 04:35 This fight build up is going very weird. One thing i know, If the show loses money frank will be suing Whyte... How much chance he has is an interesting question... but he will be having a crack.

Nailed on. Did you hear BrickTops Talksport interview - part 3? I would be astonished if they haven’t got a Kabayel or Helenius type on standby.

Posted: **04 Apr 2022, 05:41**

Manchester Hitman wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 05:38
gregregegg wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 04:35 This fight build up is going very weird. One thing i know, If the show loses money frank will be suing Whyte... How much chance he has is an interesting question... but he will be having a crack.
Nailed on. Did you hear BrickTops Talksport interview - part 3? I would be astonished if they haven’t got a Kabayel or Helenius type on standby.

Eddie's the one who usually has a plan B. Fwank not so much, but in this situation - possibly

Posted: **04 Apr 2022, 05:51**

KiwiRider wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 05:41
Manchester Hitman wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 05:38
gregregegg wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 04:35 This fight build up is going very weird. One thing i know, If the show loses money frank will be suing Whyte... How much chance he has is an interesting question... but he will be having a crack.
Nailed on. Did you hear BrickTops Talksport interview - part 3? I would be astonished if they haven’t got a Kabayel or Helenius type on standby.
Eddie's the one who usually has a plan B. Fwank not so much, but in this situation - possibly

Lol that’s true.

Posted: **04 Apr 2022, 06:06**

coneye wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 05:35
gregregegg wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 04:35 This fight build up is going very weird. One thing i know, If the show loses money frank will be suing Whyte... How much chance he has is an interesting question... but he will be having a crack.
Not so sure he would win that one ,, Obviously were not privvy to the contracts , but it could be argued Frank sending him economy tickets to come over and promote on a cheap airline is putting the fight in jepordy covid and all that ,,, plus from what i've read His contract states he gets a certain low percentage and promoting is a seperate issue , purse bids make it Warrens problem ,, Plus no tickets for Whyte , its all games from Warren and Fury and it might bite them on the arse might not , if its sold out at the stadium Warren would'nt really have anything to go on ,if it does'nt sell out you would think Whyte would have a good answer in the fact they gave him no tickets too sell ,, choosing to give them to a secondary outlet , personaly i can't blame Whyte ,, just shows what Warren and Fury thing of the fans if them selling the tickets to secondary sources is true .

And i do blame Fury has much has Warren because Fury will be calling all shots here

Suposidly in the contract frank gave whyte, which whyte signed it said whyte has to "promote it to a reasonable standard " or some vauge shit.... Honestly, it kinda feels like whytes lawyer is playing him a bit into a spot to get sued.... bit of a conflict, Give whyte advice, get him sued, get paid defending him...

If i were whyte i would of said "i cant come, im in camp, you can come to portugal and we will do it"... Bit of a power play either they come play by your rules or dont.., then offer to do it online and joined by a low reception skype call... even worse than nothing, and at least it looks like you tried. Covers you legaly and fucks frank about.

Tricky thing for whyte is Frank will just not pay him till the legal case is sorted...

Posted: **04 Apr 2022, 06:10**

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 04:54 by fury fans of course, quite the love affair they've developed with wilder for obvious reasons

dude has dom breazeale and bermane stiverne among the best 3 he's beaten in like 45 fights

aj has accomplished much more, usyk too has a win bigger than anything wilder did. probably would outpoint deontay, the #4 hw

Mainly by Americans and the rest of the world. Being in The Ring Magazine FOTY and going out on your shield will be seen far more favourably than quitting against Ruiz, then "THAT rematch" and god knows what he was doing against Usyk. Oh yeah, he beat Pulev as well, sorry, that's an awesome RESUME.....

Posted: **04 Apr 2022, 06:20**

mickey1975 wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 06:10
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 04:54 by fury fans of course, quite the love affair they've developed with wilder for obvious reasons

dude has dom breazeale and bermane stiverne among the best 3 he's beaten in like 45 fights

aj has accomplished much more, usyk too has a win bigger than anything wilder did. probably would outpoint deontay, the #4 hw
Mainly by Americans and the rest of the world. Being in The Ring Magazine FOTY and going out on your shield will be seen far more favourably than quitting against Ruiz, then "THAT rematch" and god knows what he was doing against Usyk. Oh yeah, he beat Pulev as well, sorry, that's an awesome RESUME.....

oh sure, they'll definitely remember him getting brutally ktfo . a lot easier to remember that than the roughly 40 meaningless fights he had

ring ranks aj and uzzy ahead of wilder btw, the #4 hw now and of his era (5th if we count wlad)

ya, aj did beat pulev didnt he, a guy who at minimum would be the 2nd best guy wilder ever beat lol. hell, i think prime chizz would have a great shot of beating bermane the blob and big dom

Posted: **04 Apr 2022, 06:25**

AJ fanboiiiis do my head in! Is it because he is black?

Posted: **04 Apr 2022, 06:26**

what makes it just about aj ? it's aj, usyk, and wlad if we count him. several different fighters were mentioned. depends what happens in the future too. some dude shocking fury could very well push them above wilder too if he never fights again or keeps losing. whyte beating fury would hugely top any win of wilders for example. on the other hand, wilder could surprise ppl and add a good win, who knows

fury fan bois having a love affair for wilder, for obvious reasons, is pretty hilarious tbh

Posted: **04 Apr 2022, 06:32**

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 06:26 what makes it just about aj ? it's aj, usyk, and wlad if we count him. several different fighters were mentioned

fury fan bois having a love affair for wilder, for obvious reasons, is pretty hilarious tbh

You never answered my question. All this bois shite has me thinking you're an Ali G character so I understand your need to defend AJ even after 3 years of rubbish performances. Just admit it, you've been conned.
Ps please don't start going on about Martin, Molina, Brazealle, etc.

Posted: **04 Apr 2022, 06:34**

mickey1975 wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 06:32
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 06:26 what makes it just about aj ? it's aj, usyk, and wlad if we count him. several different fighters were mentioned

fury fan bois having a love affair for wilder, for obvious reasons, is pretty hilarious tbh
You never answered my question. All this bois shite has me thinking you're an Ali G character so I understand your need to defend AJ even after 3 years of rubbish performances. Just admit it, you've been conned.
Ps please don't start going on about Martin, Molina, Brazealle, etc.

of course it's not racial. ottherwise i'd be swooning over black wilder too. he plays 'gangsta' more than joshua does and goes on about race constantly too.

do you support tyson for racial reasons? race was obviously at the front of your mind

wilder's resume is mostly sh!te mate, no way around it. if wilder had beat del chisora it would very arguably be the #2 guy he's beaten in 45 fights. joshua has a far better record, and usyk has a far better win than anything wilder has done. if someone upsets fury they will too.

obviously furys better than wilder, and i think usyk and aj are too. wlad was better than him as well. #2 of his era? not at all, at least at this stage. he could end up there if he pulls some big surprises, or he could end up #5 or lower depending on what other fighters still accomplish.

Posted: **04 Apr 2022, 06:40**

black cars, black shoes, black jesus, black berries, black cherries, black sunday, black clouds, black rain, black pain, black sky, black eye, black, black black black

remember that wilder entrance?

dudes fanboing over dude being black would be in love with that sh!t, far more than aj

Posted: **04 Apr 2022, 06:41**

Usyk's best win was Breidis. He admits that himself.

Posted: **04 Apr 2022, 06:42**

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 06:40 black cars, black shoes, black jesus, black berries, black cherries, black sunday, black clouds, black rain, black pain, black sky, black eye, black, black black black

remember that wilder entrance?

dudes fanboing over dude being black would be in love with that sh!t, far more than aj

I take it you didn't see his BLM speech?

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