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Posted: **21 Jun 2009, 00:29**

on BoxRec?

Wlad just defeated the WBA champ easily, and is still at #2 and hell, Chagaev is still #3

Who cares that the WBA title didnt switch hands...the Chagaev victory is more than Vitali's win over Gomez ffs

Posted: **21 Jun 2009, 01:00**

It usually doesn't update until the next morning......

Posted: **21 Jun 2009, 09:17**

armageto wrote:It usually doesn't update until the next morning......

Yeah, no kidding.

He just wanted something to complain about.

Posted: **24 Jun 2009, 09:47**

So, how does somebody like Ruiz remain ranked 7 with 3 losses in his last five fights.
and Haye jump up to third with one marginal heavyweight win.
Sure doesn't make the rating system seem legit when the ratings in the
marque division are hokey.

Posted: **24 Jun 2009, 09:53**

snake33 wrote:So, how does somebody like Ruiz remain ranked 7 with 3 losses in his last five fights.
and Haye jump up to third with one marginal heavyweight win.
Sure doesn't make the rating system seem legit when the ratings in the
marque division are hokey.

Rating points aren't division-specific, Ruiz fought almost even with high-ranked opponents in those 3 losses.

Posted: **24 Jun 2009, 18:00**

JCS wrote:
snake33 wrote:So, how does somebody like Ruiz remain ranked 7 with 3 losses in his last five fights.
and Haye jump up to third with one marginal heavyweight win.
Sure doesn't make the rating system seem legit when the ratings in the
marque division are hokey.
Rating points aren't division-specific, Ruiz fought almost even with high-ranked opponents in those 3 losses.

It's still three losses. Maybe he stays in the top twenty but seven with three loses?
Not bloody likely.
And Haye, he hasn't done anything but run his mouth. There are other divisions that
are messed up, I'm just making an example at heavyweight.

Posted: **24 Jun 2009, 23:25**

Sadly, it makes total sense that Ruiz is still #7 at HW. All 3 of his losses have been razor-thin decisions to guys in the top 5 of the division.

Posted: **25 Jun 2009, 08:35**

And Haye was unified cruiser champ. That surely gave him enough points to be a top 5 HW.

Posted: **04 Aug 2009, 02:22**

MontyCircus,

All time ratings - down-converting ratings

So my question is...as far as "all-time" or "annual rank points" are concerned, would his annual points while fighting at a higher weightclass be "down-converted" to his weightclass? (e.g. Pacquiao's 1564 while fighting at welterweight, would for all-time purposes be recorded as 2000).

There is no bonus for moving up the weight divisions.

The respective annual rank points are not down-converted to the all time weight division finally assigned to the respective boxer. The all time ratings are the sum of the annual all time points in their respective annual weight division.

So the all time ratings measure the sum of the respective annual weight division specific performances.

There is no bonus for moving up the weight divisions.

Ratings are equalized between divisions by mean rating points of #8 to #12

Why and how is that done? When I read it, it sounded like to me...if say...you've got a bad heavyweight division, there's no one dominant, the best aren't fighting each other and the points are low across the board...that the computer somehow compensates for that? Artificially raising everyone's point totals to match the "good" divisions?

This does not change the actual intra-division rating relations. But:

- The higher the resulting division top ratings - now normalized to the division specific mean rating standard of the #8 to #12 - the higher the division specific excellence of these boxers. The p4p ratings are based on this.
- The annual ratings level in a specific division changed a lot over the decades. To make the annual ratings comparable, especially for the all time ratings, this normalization helps.

Posted: **05 Aug 2009, 07:49**

Some remarks:

- There is an additional feature in place to identify the correct annual ratings divison for every boxer. The boxer will be assigned to the division with the boxer's best annual bout performance. And the year's end rating points are transformed to this annual best performance division.

- What to do with boxers like Sugar Ray Robinson. He is currently assigned to Middleweight regarding the all time ratings. But he as well might be assigned to Welterweight. Should this rise his all time ratings account?

Look at Holyfield (Heavyweight, Cruiserweight) ...

Posted: **05 Aug 2009, 22:44**

Please explain how bantamweight old-timer Charlie Simpson earned 183 points (with a 1911-1917 career record of 16(6)-9(3)-1) for a #47 All-Time rating over all the other bantams who ever fought?

Posted: **05 Aug 2009, 22:56**

He should be at Feather..

Posted: **07 Aug 2009, 02:42**

Ric wrote:Please explain how bantamweight old-timer Charlie Simpson earned 183 points (with a 1911-1917 career record of 16(6)-9(3)-1) for a #47 All-Time rating over all the other bantams who ever fought?

I had a look and ...

His featherweight title bout on 1915-07-31 against Bert Spargo was erroneously assigned to flyweight by some editor - and so the program handled it as a flyweight bout ...

Additionally flyweight was not very competitive in this year and so Simpson got a lot of points for this "flyweight" win.

I corrected the error and now Simpson should be at about 50 points - and in featherweight.

Posted: **07 Aug 2009, 23:11**

computerrank wrote:
Ric wrote:Please explain how bantamweight old-timer Charlie Simpson earned 183 points (with a 1911-1917 career record of 16(6)-9(3)-1) for a #47 All-Time rating over all the other bantams who ever fought?
I had a look and ...

His featherweight title bout on 1915-07-31 against Bert Spargo was erroneously assigned to flyweight by some editor - and so the program handled it as a flyweight bout ...

Additionally flyweight was not very competitive in this year and so Simpson got a lot of points for this "flyweight" win.

I corrected the error and now Simpson should be at about 50 points - and in featherweight.

Thank you for the the explanation. BTW: I just now quickly browsed thru BoxRec's All-Time Featherweight rankings, and see that old-timer Charlie Simpson is lost in the mist of history--no longer a Top-50 All-Time Bantamweight in BoxRec's Rankings (which, every visitor here should be reminded, is presented for "entertainment purposes only").

Posted: **08 Aug 2009, 11:23**

@MontyCircus

... I will see to find some spare time ... it will take a while ...

Posted: **10 Aug 2009, 04:35**

This would be the all time ratings with all annual ratings converted to the all time division assigned by the editors:

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rank|division            |first_name          |last_name           |   rd
----|--------------------|--------------------|--------------------|-----
   1|Heavyweight         |Muhammad            |Ali                 | 2115
   2|Heavyweight         |Joe                 |Louis               | 1565
   3|Heavyweight         |Jack                |Johnson             | 1363
   4|Heavyweight         |Floyd               |Patterson           | 1276
   5|Heavyweight         |Harry               |Wills               | 1168
   6|Heavyweight         |Larry               |Holmes              | 1027
   7|Heavyweight         |Joe                 |Frazier             |  838
   8|Heavyweight         |Rocky               |Marciano            |  816
   9|Heavyweight         |Sonny               |Liston              |  781
  10|Heavyweight         |Lennox              |Lewis               |  749
  11|Heavyweight         |Sam                 |Langford            |  745
  12|Heavyweight         |Ezzard              |Charles             |  710
  13|Heavyweight         |Mike                |Tyson               |  695
  14|Heavyweight         |Max                 |Schmeling           |  666
  15|Heavyweight         |Jimmy               |Bivins              |  638
  16|Heavyweight         |George              |Foreman             |  608
  17|Heavyweight         |Jack                |Sharkey             |  604
  18|Heavyweight         |James J             |Jeffries            |  581
  19|Heavyweight         |Sam                 |McVea               |  527
  20|Heavyweight         |Ingemar             |Johansson           |  477
  21|Heavyweight         |Joe                 |Jeannette           |  438
  22|Heavyweight         |Ken                 |Norton              |  427
  23|Heavyweight         |Jack                |Dempsey             |  405
  24|Heavyweight         |Max                 |Baer                |  381
  25|Heavyweight         |Marvin              |Hart                |  361

rank|division            |first_name          |last_name           |   rd
----|--------------------|--------------------|--------------------|-----
   1|Cruiserweight       |Carlos              |De Leon             |  622
   2|Cruiserweight       |Orlin               |Norris              |  438
   3|Cruiserweight       |Johnny              |Nelson              |  382
   4|Cruiserweight       |Anaclet             |Wamba               |  288
   5|Cruiserweight       |Jean Marc           |Mormeck             |  238
   6|Cruiserweight       |O'Neil              |Bell                |  232
   7|Cruiserweight       |Ossie               |Ocasio              |  222
   8|Cruiserweight       |Vassiliy            |Jirov               |  218
   9|Cruiserweight       |Marcelo Fabian      |Dominguez           |  186
  10|Cruiserweight       |Carl                |Thompson            |  165
  11|Cruiserweight       |Adolpho             |Washington          |  164
  12|Cruiserweight       |Nate                |Miller              |  161
  13|Cruiserweight       |Piet                |Crous               |  129
  14|Cruiserweight       |John                |Odhiambho           |  125
  15|Cruiserweight       |Alexander           |Gurov               |  125
  16|Cruiserweight       |Jeff                |Lampkin             |  103
  17|Cruiserweight       |Norbert             |Ekassi              |  101
  18|Cruiserweight       |Angelo              |Rottoli             |   99
  19|Cruiserweight       |ST                  |Gordon              |   88
  20|Cruiserweight       |Sebastiaan          |Rothmann            |   85
  21|Cruiserweight       |Lou                 |Del Valle           |   85
  22|Cruiserweight       |Glenn               |McCrory             |   79
  23|Cruiserweight       |Ralf                |Rocchigiani         |   77
  24|Cruiserweight       |Akim                |Tafer               |   77
  25|Cruiserweight       |Vincenzo            |Cantatore           |   76

rank|division            |first_name          |last_name           |   rd
----|--------------------|--------------------|--------------------|-----
   1|Light Heavyweight   |Archie              |Moore               | 2443
   2|Light Heavyweight   |Philadelphia Jack   |O'Brien             | 2191
   3|Light Heavyweight   |Tommy               |Gibbons             | 1835
   4|Light Heavyweight   |Gene                |Tunney              | 1500
   5|Light Heavyweight   |Melio               |Bettina             | 1178
   6|Light Heavyweight   |Tommy               |Loughran            | 1145
   7|Light Heavyweight   |Jack                |Root                | 1134
   8|Light Heavyweight   |Bob                 |Foster              | 1111
   9|Light Heavyweight   |Bob                 |Fitzsimmons         | 1073
  10|Light Heavyweight   |Michael             |Spinks              | 1044
  11|Light Heavyweight   |Harold              |Johnson             | 1034
  12|Light Heavyweight   |Billy               |Conn                |  907
  13|Light Heavyweight   |Billy               |Miske               |  905
  14|Light Heavyweight   |Battling            |Levinsky            |  899
  15|Light Heavyweight   |Virgil              |Hill                |  883
  16|Light Heavyweight   |Joey                |Maxim               |  869
  17|Light Heavyweight   |Tami                |Mauriello           |  831
  18|Light Heavyweight   |Charles Kid         |McCoy               |  728
  19|Light Heavyweight   |Maxie               |Rosenbloom          |  726
  20|Light Heavyweight   |Dariusz             |Michalczewski       |  706
  21|Light Heavyweight   |John Henry          |Lewis               |  694
  22|Light Heavyweight   |Jose                |Torres              |  641
  23|Light Heavyweight   |Dwight Muhammad     |Qawi                |  633
  24|Light Heavyweight   |Georges             |Carpentier          |  622
  25|Light Heavyweight   |Young               |Stribling           |  579

rank|division            |first_name          |last_name           |   rd
----|--------------------|--------------------|--------------------|-----
   1|Super Middleweight  |Joe                 |Calzaghe            |  792
   2|Super Middleweight  |Steve               |Collins             |  399
   3|Super Middleweight  |Chris               |Eubank              |  364
   4|Super Middleweight  |Nigel               |Benn                |  354
   5|Super Middleweight  |Sven                |Ottke               |  278
   6|Super Middleweight  |Frankie             |Liles               |  206
   7|Super Middleweight  |Thulani             |Malinga             |  202
   8|Super Middleweight  |Robin               |Reid                |  162
   9|Super Middleweight  |Christophe          |Tiozzo              |  128
  10|Super Middleweight  |Markus              |Beyer               |  117
  11|Super Middleweight  |In-Chul             |Baek                |  114
  12|Super Middleweight  |Henry               |Wharton             |  112
  13|Super Middleweight  |Fulgencio           |Obelmejias          |  106
  14|Super Middleweight  |Victor              |Cordoba             |  101
  15|Super Middleweight  |Eric                |Lucas               |   94
  16|Super Middleweight  |Thomas              |Tate                |   92
  17|Super Middleweight  |Darrin              |Van Horn            |   89
  18|Super Middleweight  |Sam                 |Soliman             |   88
  19|Super Middleweight  |Charles             |Brewer              |   81
  20|Super Middleweight  |Richie              |Woodhall            |   78
  21|Super Middleweight  |Dana                |Rosenblatt          |   76
  22|Super Middleweight  |Guy                 |Waters              |   75
  23|Super Middleweight  |James               |Cook                |   71
  24|Super Middleweight  |Mario               |Veit                |   68
  25|Super Middleweight  |Frederic            |Seillier            |   63

rank|division            |first_name          |last_name           |   rd
----|--------------------|--------------------|--------------------|-----
   1|Middleweight        |Marvin              |Hagler              | 1589
   2|Middleweight        |Sugar Ray           |Robinson            | 1509
   3|Middleweight        |Harry               |Greb                | 1464
   4|Middleweight        |Carlos              |Monzon              | 1446
   5|Middleweight        |Tommy               |Ryan                |  965
   6|Middleweight        |Dick                |Tiger               |  863
   7|Middleweight        |Michael             |Nunn                |  678
   8|Middleweight        |Mike                |McCallum            |  677
   9|Middleweight        |Mike                |Gibbons             |  629
  10|Middleweight        |Stanley             |Ketchel             |  484
  11|Middleweight        |Mike                |O'Dowd              |  472
  12|Middleweight        |Rodrigo             |Valdez              |  472
  13|Middleweight        |Gene                |Fullmer             |  471
  14|Middleweight        |Joey                |Giardello           |  447
  15|Middleweight        |George              |Gardner             |  446
  16|Middleweight        |Sumbu               |Kalambay            |  384
  17|Middleweight        |Bobo                |Olson               |  378
  18|Middleweight        |Charley             |Burley              |  365
  19|Middleweight        |Fred                |Apostoli            |  362
  20|Middleweight        |Nino                |Benvenuti           |  361
  21|Middleweight        |Jack (Twin)         |Sullivan            |  347
  22|Middleweight        |Leo                 |Houck               |  313
  23|Middleweight        |Jimmy               |Clabby              |  303
  24|Middleweight        |Ceferino            |Garcia              |  303
  25|Middleweight        |Jack                |Dillon              |  299

rank|division            |first_name          |last_name           |   rd
----|--------------------|--------------------|--------------------|-----
   1|Light Middleweight  |Sandro              |Mazzinghi           | 1095
   2|Light Middleweight  |Terry               |Norris              |  790
   3|Light Middleweight  |Freddie             |Little              |  609
   4|Light Middleweight  |Wilfred             |Benitez             |  583
   5|Light Middleweight  |Maurice             |Hope                |  572
   6|Light Middleweight  |Ki Soo              |Kim                 |  449
   7|Light Middleweight  |Ayub                |Kalule              |  352
   8|Light Middleweight  |Bruno               |Visintin            |  344
   9|Light Middleweight  |Denny               |Moyer               |  313
  10|Light Middleweight  |Rocky               |Mattioli            |  275
  11|Light Middleweight  |Laurent             |Boudouani           |  266
  12|Light Middleweight  |Javier              |Castillejo          |  247
  13|Light Middleweight  |Louis               |Acaries             |  182
  14|Light Middleweight  |Carlos              |Santos              |  181
  15|Light Middleweight  |Fernando            |Vargas              |  179
  16|Light Middleweight  |Daniel              |Santos              |  173
  17|Light Middleweight  |John                |Mugabi              |  164
  18|Light Middleweight  |Loucif              |Hamani              |  159
  19|Light Middleweight  |Buster              |Drayton             |  143
  20|Light Middleweight  |Harry               |Simon               |  141
  21|Light Middleweight  |Carmelo             |Bossi               |  139
  22|Light Middleweight  |Domenico            |Tiberia             |  136
  23|Light Middleweight  |Eckhard             |Dagge               |  131
  24|Light Middleweight  |Matthew             |Hilton              |  126
  25|Light Middleweight  |Bo                  |Hogberg             |  125

rank|division            |first_name          |last_name           |   rd
----|--------------------|--------------------|--------------------|-----
   1|Welterweight        |Thomas              |Hearns              | 1696
   2|Welterweight        |Jose                |Napoles             | 1547
   3|Welterweight        |Oscar               |De La Hoya          | 1421
   4|Welterweight        |Emile               |Griffith            | 1364
   5|Welterweight        |Sugar Ray           |Leonard             | 1295
   6|Welterweight        |Luis Manuel         |Rodriguez           | 1045
   7|Welterweight        |Felix               |Trinidad            | 1028
   8|Welterweight        |Mickey              |Walker              |  917
   9|Welterweight        |Joe                 |Walcott             |  866
  10|Welterweight        |Pernell             |Whitaker            |  857
  11|Welterweight        |Jimmy               |Gardner             |  838
  12|Welterweight        |Jack                |Britton             |  812
  13|Welterweight        |Young               |Corbett III         |  772
  14|Welterweight        |Mike Twin           |Sullivan            |  693
  15|Welterweight        |Donald              |Curry               |  671
  16|Welterweight        |Ted 'Kid'           |Lewis               |  664
  17|Welterweight        |Jimmy               |McLarnin            |  657
  18|Welterweight        |Carmen              |Basilio             |  543
  19|Welterweight        |Curtis              |Cokes               |  505
  20|Welterweight        |Al                  |Neill               |  485
  21|Welterweight        |George              |Cole                |  473
  22|Welterweight        |George              |Green               |  467
  23|Welterweight        |Tommy               |West                |  458
  24|Welterweight        |Henry               |Armstrong           |  433
  25|Welterweight        |Lloyd               |Honeyghan           |  430

rank|division            |first_name          |last_name           |   rd
----|--------------------|--------------------|--------------------|-----
   1|Light Welterweight  |Julio Cesar         |Chavez              | 1197
   2|Light Welterweight  |Nicolino            |Locche              | 1174
   3|Light Welterweight  |Bruno               |Arcari              |  993
   4|Light Welterweight  |Antonio             |Cervantes           |  865
   5|Light Welterweight  |Kostya              |Tszyu               |  794
   6|Light Welterweight  |Eddie               |Perkins             |  730
   7|Light Welterweight  |Aaron               |Pryor               |  608
   8|Light Welterweight  |Carlos              |Hernandez           |  497
   9|Light Welterweight  |Barney              |Ross                |  478
  10|Light Welterweight  |Juan Martin         |Coggi               |  368
  11|Light Welterweight  |Vinny               |Pazienza            |  306
  12|Light Welterweight  |Duilio              |Loi                 |  246
  13|Light Welterweight  |Tippy               |Larkin              |  241
  14|Light Welterweight  |Saoul               |Mamby               |  229
  15|Light Welterweight  |Frankie             |Randall             |  229
  16|Light Welterweight  |Meldrick            |Taylor              |  222
  17|Light Welterweight  |Hector              |Thompson            |  210
  18|Light Welterweight  |Sharmba             |Mitchell            |  199
  19|Light Welterweight  |Saensak             |Muangsurin          |  196
  20|Light Welterweight  |Vince               |Phillips            |  189
  21|Light Welterweight  |Roger               |Mayweather          |  188
  22|Light Welterweight  |Bunny               |Grant               |  186
  23|Light Welterweight  |Joao                |Henrique            |  173
  24|Light Welterweight  |Ubaldo Nestor       |Sacco               |  156
  25|Light Welterweight  |Jo                  |Kimpuani            |  155

rank|division            |first_name          |last_name           |   rd
----|--------------------|--------------------|--------------------|-----
   1|Lightweight         |Roberto             |Duran               | 1907
   2|Lightweight         |Benny               |Leonard             | 1484
   3|Lightweight         |Carlos              |Ortiz               | 1418
   4|Lightweight         |Joe                 |Gans                | 1102
   5|Lightweight         |Lew                 |Tendler             |  735
   6|Lightweight         |Ike                 |Williams            |  693
   7|Lightweight         |Tony                |Canzoneri           |  655
   8|Lightweight         |Beau                |Jack                |  617
   9|Lightweight         |Lou                 |Ambers              |  549
  10|Lightweight         |Esteban             |De Jesus            |  531
  11|Lightweight         |Sammy               |Angott              |  501
  12|Lightweight         |Bob                 |Montgomery          |  496
  13|Lightweight         |Battling            |Nelson              |  472
  14|Lightweight         |Ismael              |Laguna              |  443
  15|Lightweight         |Jimmy               |Britt               |  422
  16|Lightweight         |Miguel Angel        |Gonzalez            |  421
  17|Lightweight         |Ken                 |Buchanan            |  397
  18|Lightweight         |Packey              |McFarland           |  393
  19|Lightweight         |Freddie             |Dawson              |  392
  20|Lightweight         |Joe                 |Brown               |  352
  21|Lightweight         |Lockport Jimmy      |Duffy               |  336
  22|Lightweight         |Kenny               |Lane                |  334
  23|Lightweight         |Jack                |Blackburn           |  326
  24|Lightweight         |Freddie             |Welsh               |  325
  25|Lightweight         |Billy               |Petrolle            |  323

rank|division            |first_name          |last_name           |   rd
----|--------------------|--------------------|--------------------|-----
   1|Super Featherweight |Floyd               |Mayweather Jr       | 1444
   2|Super Featherweight |Alexis              |Arguello            | 1140
   3|Super Featherweight |Azumah              |Nelson              |  860
   4|Super Featherweight |Flash               |Elorde              |  667
   5|Super Featherweight |Samuel              |Serrano             |  649
   6|Super Featherweight |Johnny              |Dundee              |  425
   7|Super Featherweight |Rene                |Barrientos          |  416
   8|Super Featherweight |Arturo              |Gatti               |  382
   9|Super Featherweight |Hiroshi             |Kobayashi           |  377
  10|Super Featherweight |Alfredo             |Escalera            |  364
  11|Super Featherweight |John John           |Molina              |  326
  12|Super Featherweight |Brian               |Mitchell            |  322
  13|Super Featherweight |Nkosana             |Mgxaji              |  319
  14|Super Featherweight |Kuniaki             |Shibata             |  308
  15|Super Featherweight |Rocky               |Lockridge           |  307
  16|Super Featherweight |Acelino             |Freitas             |  301
  17|Super Featherweight |Diego               |Corrales            |  298
  18|Super Featherweight |Love                |Allotey             |  297
  19|Super Featherweight |Antonio             |Amaya               |  295
  20|Super Featherweight |Barry               |Michael             |  282
  21|Super Featherweight |Tony                |Lopez               |  279
  22|Super Featherweight |Genaro              |Hernandez           |  272
  23|Super Featherweight |Jesse James         |Leija               |  243
  24|Super Featherweight |Ben                 |Villaflor           |  230
  25|Super Featherweight |Kang Il             |Suh                 |  210

rank|division            |first_name          |last_name           |   rd
----|--------------------|--------------------|--------------------|-----
   1|Featherweight       |Willie              |Pep                 | 1460
   2|Featherweight       |Vicente             |Saldivar            | 1002
   3|Featherweight       |Sugar               |Ramos               |  877
   4|Featherweight       |Davey               |Moore               |  863
   5|Featherweight       |Johnny              |Kilbane             |  851
   6|Featherweight       |Terry               |McGovern            |  823
   7|Featherweight       |Abe                 |Attell              |  814
   8|Featherweight       |Naseem              |Hamed               |  802
   9|Featherweight       |Owen                |Moran               |  700
  10|Featherweight       |Young               |Corbett II          |  687
  11|Featherweight       |Jim                 |Driscoll            |  653
  12|Featherweight       |Louis               |Kaplan              |  615
  13|Featherweight       |Leo                 |Rodak               |  604
  14|Featherweight       |Sandy               |Saddler             |  582
  15|Featherweight       |Chalky              |Wright              |  565
  16|Featherweight       |Danny               |Lopez               |  548
  17|Featherweight       |Salvador            |Sanchez             |  504
  18|Featherweight       |Bobby               |Ruffin              |  500
  19|Featherweight       |Eusebio             |Pedroza             |  421
  20|Featherweight       |Jeff                |Fenech              |  373
  21|Featherweight       |Howard              |Winstone            |  364
  22|Featherweight       |Jose                |Legra               |  346
  23|Featherweight       |Petey               |Sarron              |  344
  24|Featherweight       |Frankie             |Fleming             |  337
  25|Featherweight       |Tom                 |Smith               |  334

rank|division            |first_name          |last_name           |   rd
----|--------------------|--------------------|--------------------|-----
   1|Super Bantamweight  |Wilfredo            |Gomez               | 1388
   2|Super Bantamweight  |Erik                |Morales             | 1108
   3|Super Bantamweight  |Israel              |Vazquez             |  484
   4|Super Bantamweight  |Wilfredo            |Vazquez             |  432
   5|Super Bantamweight  |Daniel              |Zaragoza            |  343
   6|Super Bantamweight  |Ricardo             |Cardona             |  220
   7|Super Bantamweight  |Kennedy             |McKinney            |  216
   8|Super Bantamweight  |Sergio Victor       |Palma               |  190
   9|Super Bantamweight  |Tracy               |Harris Patterson    |  174
  10|Super Bantamweight  |Junior              |Jones               |  165
  11|Super Bantamweight  |Juan                |Meza                |  164
  12|Super Bantamweight  |Antonio             |Cermeno             |  157
  13|Super Bantamweight  |Victor              |Callejas            |  156
  14|Super Bantamweight  |Louie               |Espinoza            |  155
  15|Super Bantamweight  |Jaime               |Garza               |  140
  16|Super Bantamweight  |Leonardo            |Cruz                |  140
  17|Super Bantamweight  |Jesus               |Salud               |  137
  18|Super Bantamweight  |Seung Hoon          |Lee                 |  135
  19|Super Bantamweight  |Carlos              |Mendoza             |  135
  20|Super Bantamweight  |Luis Enrique        |Mendoza             |  129
  21|Super Bantamweight  |Mike                |Ayala               |  123
  22|Super Bantamweight  |Wayne               |McCullough          |  119
  23|Super Bantamweight  |Loris               |Stecca              |  118
  24|Super Bantamweight  |Agapito             |Sanchez             |  111
  25|Super Bantamweight  |Samart              |Payakaroon          |  103

rank|division            |first_name          |last_name           |   rd
----|--------------------|--------------------|--------------------|-----
   1|Bantamweight        |Eder                |Jofre               |  893
   2|Bantamweight        |Manuel              |Ortiz               |  820
   3|Bantamweight        |Jimmy               |Carruthers          |  654
   4|Bantamweight        |Rush                |Dalma               |  647
   5|Bantamweight        |Willie              |Toweel              |  586
   6|Bantamweight        |Carlos              |Zarate              |  538
   7|Bantamweight        |Ruben               |Olivares            |  505
   8|Bantamweight        |Fighting            |Harada              |  496
   9|Bantamweight        |Frankie             |Burns               |  482
  10|Bantamweight        |Harry               |Forbes              |  471
  11|Bantamweight        |Joe                 |Bowker              |  467
  12|Bantamweight        |Panama Al           |Brown               |  432
  13|Bantamweight        |Jimmy               |Walsh               |  415
  14|Bantamweight        |Orlando             |Canizales           |  397
  15|Bantamweight        |Rodolfo             |Martinez            |  395
  16|Bantamweight        |Kid                 |Williams            |  386
  17|Bantamweight        |Chucho              |Castillo            |  383
  18|Bantamweight        |Mario               |D'Agata             |  366
  19|Bantamweight        |Paul                |Ferreri             |  363
  20|Bantamweight        |Bushy               |Graham              |  363
  21|Bantamweight        |KO                  |Morgan              |  356
  22|Bantamweight        |Arnold              |Taylor              |  356
  23|Bantamweight        |Dick                |Corbett             |  356
  24|Bantamweight        |Jose                |Medel               |  353
  25|Bantamweight        |Rodolfo             |Casanova            |  343

rank|division            |first_name          |last_name           |   rd
----|--------------------|--------------------|--------------------|-----
   1|Super Flyweight     |Gilberto            |Roman               |  555
   2|Super Flyweight     |Jiro                |Watanabe            |  492
   3|Super Flyweight     |Khaosai             |Galaxy              |  450
   4|Super Flyweight     |Johnny              |Tapia               |  435
   5|Super Flyweight     |Sung-Kil            |Moon                |  401
   6|Super Flyweight     |Masamori            |Tokuyama            |  273
   7|Super Flyweight     |Samson              |Dutch Boy Gym       |  226
   8|Super Flyweight     |Gustavo             |Ballas              |  220
   9|Super Flyweight     |Sugar Baby          |Rojas               |  187
  10|Super Flyweight     |Jesus               |Rojas               |  180
  11|Super Flyweight     |Hiroshi             |Kawashima           |  149
  12|Super Flyweight     |Rafael              |Orono               |  141
  13|Super Flyweight     |Thanomsak           |Sithbaobay          |  133
  14|Super Flyweight     |Yokthai             |Sithoar             |  121
  15|Super Flyweight     |Jose                |Ruiz                |  114
  16|Super Flyweight     |Danny               |Romero              |   98
  17|Super Flyweight     |In-Joo              |Cho                 |   92
  18|Super Flyweight     |Payao               |Poontarat           |   92
  19|Super Flyweight     |Satoshi             |Iida                |   83
  20|Super Flyweight     |Celes               |Kobayashi           |   83
  21|Super Flyweight     |Alimi               |Goitia              |   82
  22|Super Flyweight     |Ellyas              |Pical               |   80
  23|Super Flyweight     |Katsuya             |Onizuka             |   72
  24|Super Flyweight     |Alberto             |Castro              |   70
  25|Super Flyweight     |Katsushige          |Kawashima           |   70

rank|division            |first_name          |last_name           |   rd
----|--------------------|--------------------|--------------------|-----
   1|Flyweight           |Peter               |Kane                | 1330
   2|Flyweight           |Jimmy               |Wilde               | 1255
   3|Flyweight           |Jackie              |Paterson            | 1223
   4|Flyweight           |Fidel               |LaBarba             | 1122
   5|Flyweight           |Little              |Pancho              |  955
   6|Flyweight           |Little              |Dado                |  937
   7|Flyweight           |Pascual             |Perez               |  860
   8|Flyweight           |Midget              |Wolgast             |  787
   9|Flyweight           |Venice              |Borkhorsor          |  780
  10|Flyweight           |Efren               |Torres              |  726
  11|Flyweight           |Salvatore           |Burruni             |  721
  12|Flyweight           |Chartchai           |Chionoi             |  701
  13|Flyweight           |Horacio             |Accavallo           |  682
  14|Flyweight           |Newsboy             |Brown               |  633
  15|Flyweight           |Frankie             |Genaro              |  610
  16|Flyweight           |Benny               |Lynch               |  606
  17|Flyweight           |Rinty               |Monaghan            |  599
  18|Flyweight           |Pone                |Kingpetch           |  583
  19|Flyweight           |Ginger              |Foran               |  555
  20|Flyweight           |Pancho              |Villa               |  550
  21|Flyweight           |Masao               |Ohba                |  536
  22|Flyweight           |Chico               |Morales             |  494
  23|Flyweight           |Dai                 |Dower               |  482
  24|Flyweight           |Miguel              |Canto               |  482
  25|Flyweight           |Hiroyuki            |Ebihara             |  480

rank|division            |first_name          |last_name           |   rd
----|--------------------|--------------------|--------------------|-----
   1|Light Flyweight     |Jung-Koo            |Chang               |  679
   2|Light Flyweight     |Humberto            |Gonzalez            |  569
   3|Light Flyweight     |Luis                |Estaba              |  467
   4|Light Flyweight     |Hilario             |Zapata              |  427
   5|Light Flyweight     |Yoko                |Gushiken            |  380
   6|Light Flyweight     |Michael             |Carbajal            |  372
   7|Light Flyweight     |Myung-Woo           |Yuh                 |  354
   8|Light Flyweight     |Pichit              |Chor Siriwat        |  288
   9|Light Flyweight     |Leo                 |Gamez               |  287
  10|Light Flyweight     |Sung Jun            |Kim                 |  253
  11|Light Flyweight     |Saman               |Sorjaturong         |  227
  12|Light Flyweight     |Jacob               |Matlala             |  224
  13|Light Flyweight     |Joey                |Olivo               |  218
  14|Light Flyweight     |German              |Torres              |  198
  15|Light Flyweight     |Yo Sam              |Choi                |  186
  16|Light Flyweight     |Rolando             |Pascua              |  159
  17|Light Flyweight     |Amado               |Ursua               |  148
  18|Light Flyweight     |Katsuo              |Tokashiki           |  144
  19|Light Flyweight     |Lupe                |Madera              |  140
  20|Light Flyweight     |Victor              |Burgos              |  128
  21|Light Flyweight     |Beibis              |Mendoza             |  121
  22|Light Flyweight     |Jose                |De Jesus            |  114
  23|Light Flyweight     |Francisco           |Quiroz              |  113
  24|Light Flyweight     |Juan                |Alvarez             |   98
  25|Light Flyweight     |Hiroki              |Ioka                |   93

rank|division            |first_name          |last_name           |   rd
----|--------------------|--------------------|--------------------|-----
   1|Minimumweight       |Ricardo             |Lopez               | 1161
   2|Minimumweight       |Rosendo             |Alvarez             |  561
   3|Minimumweight       |Chana               |Porpaoin            |  331
   4|Minimumweight       |Fahlan              |Sakkreerin          |  211
   5|Minimumweight       |Eagle Den           |Junlaphan           |  140
   6|Minimumweight       |Yutaka              |Niida               |  129
   7|Minimumweight       |Hideyuki            |Ohashi              |  127
   8|Minimumweight       |Zolani              |Petelo              |  120
   9|Minimumweight       |Songkram            |Porpaoin            |  108
  10|Minimumweight       |Manny               |Melchor             |  107
  11|Minimumweight       |Eric                |Chavez              |  102
  12|Minimumweight       |Joma                |Gamboa              |  102
  13|Minimumweight       |Keitaro             |Hoshino             |   94
  14|Minimumweight       |Rocky               |Lin                 |   92
  15|Minimumweight       |Ronnie              |Magramo             |   83
  16|Minimumweight       |Hi-Yong             |Choi                |   83
  17|Minimumweight       |Andy                |Tabanas             |   81
  18|Minimumweight       |Hector Luis         |Patri               |   69
  19|Minimumweight       |Fahsang             |Pongsawang          |   64
  20|Minimumweight       |Noel                |Tunacao             |   60
  21|Minimumweight       |Jin Ho              |Kim                 |   59
  22|Minimumweight       |Ernesto             |Rubillar            |   57
  23|Minimumweight       |Satoshi             |Kogumazaka          |   55
  24|Minimumweight       |Yuichi              |Hosono              |   49
  25|Minimumweight       |Ala                 |Villamor            |   46

Posted: **13 Aug 2009, 21:44**

Hey computerrank,

Any chance I could see a break down of Michael Moorer's career in points? Just through curiosity.

Posted: **14 Aug 2009, 11:54**

Asterix wrote:Hey computerrank,

Any chance I could see a break down of Michael Moorer's career in points? Just through curiosity.

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date      |division            |boxer               |opponent            |rs|dec|box_0>box_1|opp_0>opp_1
----------|--------------------|--------------------|--------------------|--|---|-----|-----|-----|-----
1988-03-04|Light Heavyweight   |Moorer              |Riggs               |W |TKO|    0|   15|   11|    7
1988-03-25|                    |Moorer              |Lee                 |W |TKO|   15|   72|   20|   13
1988-04-29|Light Heavyweight   |Moorer              |Zwierzynski         |W |KO |   56|   56|    0|    0
1988-05-10|                    |Moorer              |Fikes               |W |TKO|   32|   83|   22|   16
1988-06-06|                    |Moorer              |McMurray            |W |TKO|  109|  109|   13|   13
1988-06-25|                    |Moorer              |Stanley             |W |TKO|   63|  127|   68|   45
1988-08-06|Light Heavyweight   |Moorer              |Walker              |W |TKO|  218|  316|  192|  131
1988-08-12|                    |Moorer              |Keepers             |W |TKO|  242|  242|    0|    0
1988-10-07|                    |Moorer              |Suero               |W |TKO|  316|  316|    0|    0
1988-10-17|                    |Moorer              |Williams            |W |TKO|  316|  316|   22|   22
1988-11-04|                    |Moorer              |Kennedy             |W |KO |  316|  426|  268|  184
1988-12-03|Light Heavyweight   |Moorer              |Hassan              |W |TKO|  426|  668|  539|  347
1989-01-14|Light Heavyweight   |Moorer              |Claudio             |W |TKO|  668|  668|  109|  109
1989-02-19|Light Heavyweight   |Moorer              |Swindell            |W |TKO|  668|  854|  576|  394
1989-04-22|Light Heavyweight   |Moorer              |Delgado             |W |TKO|  854|  908|  335|  281
1989-06-25|Light Heavyweight   |Moorer              |Stewart             |W |TKO|  908| 1086|  628|  450
1989-11-16|Light Heavyweight   |Moorer              |Thompson            |W |TKO| 1086| 1131|  374|  328
1989-12-22|Light Heavyweight   |Moorer              |Sedillo             |W |TKO| 1131| 1209|  458|  380
1990-02-03|Light Heavyweight   |Moorer              |Allen               |W |TKO| 1209| 1209|  221|  221
1990-04-28|Light Heavyweight   |Moorer              |Melo                |W |KO | 1209| 1305|  516|  421
1990-08-21|Light Heavyweight   |Moorer              |MacDonald           |W |TKO| 1280| 1280|  190|  190
1990-12-15|Light Heavyweight   |Moorer              |Stonewalker         |W |TKO| 1280| 1280|  140|  140
1991-04-19|Heavyweight         |Moorer              |Davis               |W |TKO|  712|  712|  126|  126
1991-06-25|Heavyweight         |Moorer              |Billups             |W |TKO|  712|  712|  142|  142
1991-07-27|Heavyweight         |Moorer              |Stewart             |W |TKO|  712|  764|  296|  244
1991-11-23|Heavyweight         |Moorer              |Crabtree            |W |TKO|  738|  738|  124|  124
1992-02-01|Heavyweight         |Moorer              |White               |W |UD |  738|  738|  177|  177
1992-03-17|Heavyweight         |Moorer              |Martin              |W |UD |  738|  751|  221|  207
1992-05-15|Heavyweight         |Moorer              |Cooper              |W |TKO|  745|  877|  485|  352
1992-11-13|Heavyweight         |Moorer              |Wright              |W |TKO|  877|  877|   70|   70
1993-02-27|Heavyweight         |Moorer              |Smith               |W |UD |  877|  898|  276|  255
1993-04-27|Heavyweight         |Moorer              |Swindell            |W |TKO|  898|  898|  159|  159
1993-06-22|Heavyweight         |Moorer              |Pritchard           |W |TKO|  898|  898|  157|  157
1993-12-04|Heavyweight         |Moorer              |Evans               |W |PTS|  725|  734|  206|  197
1994-04-22|Heavyweight         |Moorer              |Holyfield           |W |MD |  730| 1250| 1659| 1194
1994-11-05|Heavyweight         |Moorer              |Foreman             |L |KO | 1250|  742|  431|  989
1995-05-13|Heavyweight         |Moorer              |Foster              |W |UD |  742|  757|  225|  210
1996-06-22|Heavyweight         |Moorer              |Schulz              |W |SD |  603|  594|  463|  472
1996-11-09|Heavyweight         |Moorer              |Botha               |W |TKO|  594|  654|  283|  223
1997-03-29|Heavyweight         |Moorer              |Bean                |W |MD |  654|  551|  122|  225
1997-11-08|Heavyweight         |Moorer              |Holyfield           |L |TKO|  551|  454| 1327| 1425
2000-11-17|Heavyweight         |Moorer              |Boyd                |W |TKO|  112|  177|   89|   62
2001-01-12|Heavyweight         |Moorer              |Lewis               |W |TKO|  177|  331|  277|  174
2001-07-27|Heavyweight         |Moorer              |Crowe               |D |TD |    0|    0|    0|    0
2001-12-09|Heavyweight         |Moorer              |Porter              |W |TKO|  331|  331|   51|   51
2002-02-16|Heavyweight         |Moorer              |Davis               |W |UD |  331|  385|  230|  175
2002-08-17|Heavyweight         |Moorer              |Tua                 |L |KO |  385|  314|  904|  975
2003-03-29|Heavyweight         |Moorer              |Tisdale             |W |UD |  314|  320|   94|   88
2003-08-23|Heavyweight         |Moorer              |Lobo                |W |KO |  320|  320|   49|   49
2004-01-17|Heavyweight         |Moorer              |Da Silva            |W |TKO|  320|  320|   30|   30
2004-07-03|Heavyweight         |Moorer              |Castillo            |L |UD |  254|  173|  145|  268
2004-12-09|Heavyweight         |Moorer              |Jirov               |W |TKO|  173|  433|  516|  306
2006-12-09|Heavyweight         |Moorer              |Couser              |W |KO |  172|  284|  175|  117
2007-03-16|Heavyweight         |Moorer              |Fields              |W |UD |  284|  292|   93|   85
2007-08-16|Heavyweight         |Moorer              |Boruff              |W |TKO|  292|  292|   49|   49
2007-10-31|Heavyweight         |Moorer              |Willis              |W |SD |  292|  252|   71|  111
2008-02-08|Heavyweight         |Moorer              |Gross               |W |KO |  252|  252|   22|   22

Posted: **14 Aug 2009, 12:36**

Thanks.

It would be brilliant if you could provide a page on Boxrec that displays those figures for all the boxers.

Posted: **17 Aug 2009, 10:35**

What was the adjustment that was just made last night for Campillo/Shumenov? Were the judge's scores updated in the database or something?

Posted: **17 Aug 2009, 10:38**

jujigatame wrote:What was the adjustment that was just made last night for Campillo/Shumenov? Were the judge's scores updated in the database or something?

Most likely.

Posted: **17 Aug 2009, 15:30**

Scores adjustment - yes ...

Posted: **19 Aug 2009, 08:46**

Just curious, if Floyd Mayweather were listed in the welterweight rankings right now, what would his point total be with all the inactivity penalties? Would he still be ahead of Mosely?

Posted: **19 Aug 2009, 13:14**

... would be at 1543 points at welterweight ...

Posted: **19 Aug 2009, 14:00**

im sure that a little while ago there was the option to look at a p4p list in the ratings link... wheres it gone?

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