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kikibalt wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:

dagosd2000 wrote:A SEAT AT THE END OF THE BAR

Keeny Teran has been discussed about his drug problem. Denny Moyer and Ronnie Wilson crossed my path. Booze was their nemesis. Sometimes training was just a way to dry out. Stay away from temptation by going up to the woods and sweat all the poison out. They can test for drugs, and if it comes up they can yank your license. Booze? There's no test for that shellac. But I've seen it eat up careers. Some of the fellas' become more acquainted with it after they retire,but they didn't shy away from it while they were fighting either.

I'll never forget the night I saw Manny Ortiz in one those sailor bars downtown in San Diego. A friend of mine's father owned the place. He had lost his liquor license for serving minors ,but owned the joint sub rosa. In another guy's name. I used to see this old guy come in and talk to the owner at the far end of the bar.He was Mexican. Every bar has its regimented seating for priority guests. In this place it was the far end by the office. The owner and his friends sat there. An unwritten rule. I'd mozy over there too. Finally one night the old guy I was talking about came in and sat with my friends father at the far end of the bar. This time something struck me. It was a face I'd seen before,but I couldn't place it. The old guy walked out so I asked the boss who the guy was. He says Manual Ortiz.

I didn't know what to make of it. To be quite honest, this watering hole was a dive. Low lifes and sailors, and of course me. I didn't want to see Manny Ortiz in an establishment like that. But who was I to give counseling? I had nothoing to say.

I was always in the joint. It was one of the low points of my life. I wanted to see Manny Ortiz again even though I thought the place was beneath his dignity. He never showed up again. I forget how long it was, but I remember picking up the sports section of the paper one day. On the back page in the bottom corner was a sports obituary. About two sentences. Something like Manual Ortiz,ex bantam weight champ(and then they gave the years he held the belt)died in a hospital of liver disease.

It was kind of after that I slowed down going into that bar. Just didn't feel comfortable in there anymore.

Roger . . . I remember Manuel Ortiz's obituary from a major boxing magazine. A photo of Ortiz showed him in a field in El Centro, kind of kneeling on the ground, smiling. It was long after his career had ended. In the photo, I saw a relaxed smile, but a saddness in his eyes. Maybe I am wrong, I didn't know the man, just a feeling I sensed.

-Rick Farris

Wildhawke11 wrote:Rog
Stop posting those photo's of your wife's cooking i did it last night and i am doing it again. Every time i see those pics i have to go to my fridge and get something to eat. Right now i am munching away on a piece of spiced chicken. Thankfully it tastes good.

Tell your loved one to put out another plate on the table Rog be there tomorrow -- I wish
Danny

dagosd2000 wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:

dagosd2000 wrote:A SEAT AT THE END OF THE BAR

Keeny Teran has been discussed about his drug problem. Denny Moyer and Ronnie Wilson crossed my path. Booze was their nemesis. Sometimes training was just a way to dry out. Stay away from temptation by going up to the woods and sweat all the poison out. They can test for drugs, and if it comes up they can yank your license. Booze? There's no test for that shellac. But I've seen it eat up careers. Some of the fellas' become more acquainted with it after they retire,but they didn't shy away from it while they were fighting either.

I'll never forget the night I saw Manny Ortiz in one those sailor bars downtown in San Diego. A friend of mine's father owned the place. He had lost his liquor license for serving minors ,but owned the joint sub rosa. In another guy's name. I used to see this old guy come in and talk to the owner at the far end of the bar.He was Mexican. Every bar has its regimented seating for priority guests. In this place it was the far end by the office. The owner and his friends sat there. An unwritten rule. I'd mozy over there too. Finally one night the old guy I was talking about came in and sat with my friends father at the far end of the bar. This time something struck me. It was a face I'd seen before,but I couldn't place it. The old guy walked out so I asked the boss who the guy was. He says Manual Ortiz.

I didn't know what to make of it. To be quite honest, this watering hole was a dive. Low lifes and sailors, and of course me. I didn't want to see Manny Ortiz in an establishment like that. But who was I to give counseling? I had nothoing to say.

I was always in the joint. It was one of the low points of my life. I wanted to see Manny Ortiz again even though I thought the place was beneath his dignity. He never showed up again. I forget how long it was, but I remember picking up the sports section of the paper one day. On the back page in the bottom corner was a sports obituary. About two sentences. Something like Manual Ortiz,ex bantam weight champ(and then they gave the years he held the belt)died in a hospital of liver disease.

It was kind of after that I slowed down going into that bar. Just didn't feel comfortable in there anymore.

Roger . . . I remember Manuel Ortiz's obituary from a major boxing magazine. A photo of Ortiz showed him in a field in El Centro, kind of kneeling on the ground, smiling. It was long after his career had ended. In the photo, I saw a relaxed smile, but a saddness in his eyes. Maybe I am wrong, I didn't know the man, just a feeling I sensed.

-Rick Farris

Rick
I never knew him either. That's why Hap and Frank are so valuable to me. I just shut up and listen.

dagosd2000 wrote:Brian
Isn't St. Paddy's Day coming up? Rick,Frank,you better come up with some Quarry brothers stories. I still have a few Ronnie Wilson and Denny Moyer yarns I can throw out there. I think I used up all my Bob Murphy stories though.

Expug wrote:

dagosd2000 wrote:Brian
Isn't St. Paddy's Day coming up? Rick,Frank,you better come up with some Quarry brothers stories. I still have a few Ronnie Wilson and Denny Moyer yarns I can throw out there. I think I used up all my Bob Murphy stories though.

March the 17th is Paddys day Rog.
I love all those stories about Moyer and Murphy. They are classics. They dont make em like that anymore I dont think.
These are the types of guys that we enjoy talking about. The characters , the guys that make boxing fun.
I have a few good stories from back many years ago working as a "doorman" in a couple Irish Bars here.
When I see you guys, we will spin a few of these tales over a couple sasparillas.
Stories that might make Frankie Crawford proud.

dagosd2000 wrote:

Expug wrote:

dagosd2000 wrote:Brian
Isn't St. Paddy's Day coming up? Rick,Frank,you better come up with some Quarry brothers stories. I still have a few Ronnie Wilson and Denny Moyer yarns I can throw out there. I think I used up all my Bob Murphy stories though.

March the 17th is Paddys day Rog.
I love all those stories about Moyer and Murphy. They are classics. They dont make em like that anymore I dont think.
These are the types of guys that we enjoy talking about. The characters , the guys that make boxing fun.
I have a few good stories from back many years ago working as a "doorman" in a couple Irish Bars here.
When I see you guys, we will spin a few of these tales over a couple sasparillas.
Stories that might make Frankie Crawford proud.

kikibalt wrote:This is for, Hap.



Today, Monica and I passed by the old Hollywood Legion Stadium.
Today it is a Balley's Fitness Center.

I regret not having a camera with us. Of course, it's nothing like it once was.

I stopped by the Blue Palm, a place that was once the favorite watering hole of Hap Navarro and the Holllwood Legion fight crowd. The stories Hap shared about the Blue Palm are some of my favorite because they take us into the world of boxing that is never seen by the fans.

Today, the Blue Palm is a Micro-Brewery and small event venue. My intention was to get info for the WBHOF relating to booking it for a small event in the future. The place was closed, so I'll check it out inthe future and maybe take a few snap shots of the Legion and the Blue Palms.

Taped to the front door was an event calender which may give an idea what the Blue Palms is doing today. I removed it and now post it here. Looks like a punk band venue-micro brew at the moment.


-Rick Farris

Rick Farris wrote:

kikibalt wrote:This is for, Hap.



Today, Monica and I passed by the old Hollywood Legion Stadium.
Today it is a Balley's Fitness Center.

I regret not having a camera with us. Of course, it's nothing like it once was.

I stopped by the Blue Palm, a place that was once the favorite watering hole of Hap Navarro and the Holllwood Legion fight crowd. The stories Hap shared about the Blue Palm are some of my favorite because they take us into the world of boxing that is never seen by the fans.

Today, the Blue Palm is a Micro-Brewery and small event venue. My intention was to get info for the WBHOF relating to booking it for a small event in the future. The place was closed, so I'll check it out inthe future and maybe take a few snap shots of the Legion and the Blue Palms.

Taped to the front door was an event calender which may give an idea what the Blue Palms is doing today. I removed it and now post it here. Looks like a punk band venue-micro brew at the moment.


-Rick Farris

"Hap Navarro . . . I can knock you out in 42 rounds"

-Speedy Dado

Dongee wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:

kikibalt wrote:This is for, Hap.



Today, Monica and I passed by the old Hollywood Legion Stadium.
Today it is a Balley's Fitness Center.

I regret not having a camera with us. Of course, it's nothing like it once was.

I stopped by the Blue Palm, a place that was once the favorite watering hole of Hap Navarro and the Holllwood Legion fight crowd. The stories Hap shared about the Blue Palm are some of my favorite because they take us into the world of boxing that is never seen by the fans.

Today, the Blue Palm is a Micro-Brewery and small event venue. My intention was to get info for the WBHOF relating to booking it for a small event in the future. The place was closed, so I'll check it out inthe future and maybe take a few snap shots of the Legion and the Blue Palms.

Taped to the front door was an event calender which may give an idea what the Blue Palms is doing today. I removed it and now post it here. Looks like a punk band venue-micro brew at the moment.


-Rick Farris

"Hap Navarro . . . I can knock you out in 42 rounds"

-Speedy Dado

Memories, Rick, Rog, Kiki, Randy, you all.....You would have enjoyed being at the old Blue Palm on a Legion fight night. There's Jackie McCoy talking up one of his fighters; the LA Times John Hall, never at the bar, always at a booth or table; Don Fraser with radio's Hank Weaver at the bar, never at a table; fight managers dancing with their wives but only when the media guys would stop listening to their sales pitch. And behind the plank, serving up the drinks two distringuished barkeeps, ex-champ Ceferino Garcia and ex-Dead End Kid Bobby Jordan. If you wanted to drink with me, you did it at the Blue Palm, my office away from my office across the way

hap navarro

kikibalt wrote:

bennie wrote:They showed Duarte-Davila II over here (delayed, as ever) and it was a pure drama throughout - an absolute classic. I seem to remember that Davila looked unlucky but you couldn't begrudge Frankie.
Disappointingly, I also seem to remember (from TV) that the crowd was small. There were some great fights in LA in the late 1980s and yet nobody seemed to be there.

Bennie....I remember a good size crowd, I won't put up any numbers, but no it was not a small. crowd.

Dongee wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:

kikibalt wrote:This is for, Hap.



Today, Monica and I passed by the old Hollywood Legion Stadium.
Today it is a Balley's Fitness Center.

I regret not having a camera with us. Of course, it's nothing like it once was.

I stopped by the Blue Palm, a place that was once the favorite watering hole of Hap Navarro and the Holllwood Legion fight crowd. The stories Hap shared about the Blue Palm are some of my favorite because they take us into the world of boxing that is never seen by the fans.

Today, the Blue Palm is a Micro-Brewery and small event venue. My intention was to get info for the WBHOF relating to booking it for a small event in the future. The place was closed, so I'll check it out inthe future and maybe take a few snap shots of the Legion and the Blue Palms.

Taped to the front door was an event calender which may give an idea what the Blue Palms is doing today. I removed it and now post it here. Looks like a punk band venue-micro brew at the moment.


-Rick Farris

"Hap Navarro . . . I can knock you out in 42 rounds"

-Speedy Dado

Memories, Rick, Rog, Kiki, Randy, you all.....You would have enjoyed being at the old Blue Palm on a Legion fight night. There's Jackie McCoy talking up one of his fighters; the LA Times John Hall, never at the bar, always at a booth or table;; fight managers dancing with their wives but only when the media guys would stop listening to their sales pitch. And behind the plank, serving up the drinks two distringuished barkeeps, ex-champ Ceferino Garcia and ex-Dead End Kid Bobby Jordan. If you wanted to drink with me, you did it at the Blue Palm, my office away from my office across the way

hap navarro

dagosd2000 wrote:

Expug wrote:

dagosd2000 wrote:Brian
Isn't St. Paddy's Day coming up? Rick,Frank,you better come up with some Quarry brothers stories. I still have a few Ronnie Wilson and Denny Moyer yarns I can throw out there. I think I used up all my Bob Murphy stories though.

March the 17th is Paddys day Rog.
I love all those stories about Moyer and Murphy. They are classics. They dont make em like that anymore I dont think.
These are the types of guys that we enjoy talking about. The characters , the guys that make boxing fun.
I have a few good stories from back many years ago working as a "doorman" in a couple Irish Bars here.
When I see you guys, we will spin a few of these tales over a couple sasparillas.
Stories that might make Frankie Crawford proud.

Brian
After you wup ass on the competition here in San Diego,I lined up a few Irish bars we can get acqauinted with. Rog

Expug wrote:

dagosd2000 wrote:Brian
Isn't St. Paddy's Day coming up? Rick,Frank,you better come up with some Quarry brothers stories. I still have a few Ronnie Wilson and Denny Moyer yarns I can throw out there. I think I used up all my Bob Murphy stories though.

March the 17th is Paddys day Rog.
I love all those stories about Moyer and Murphy. They are classics. They dont make em like that anymore I dont think.
These are the types of guys that we enjoy talking about. The characters , the guys that make boxing fun.
I have a few good stories from back many years ago working as a "doorman" in a couple Irish Bars here.
When I see you guys, we will spin a few of these tales over a couple sasparillas.
Stories that might make Frankie Crawford proud.

Bobbin & Weavin wrote:

Expug wrote:

dagosd2000 wrote:Brian
Isn't St. Paddy's Day coming up? Rick,Frank,you better come up with some Quarry brothers stories. I still have a few Ronnie Wilson and Denny Moyer yarns I can throw out there. I think I used up all my Bob Murphy stories though.

March the 17th is Paddys day Rog.
I love all those stories about Moyer and Murphy. They are classics. They dont make em like that anymore I dont think.
These are the types of guys that we enjoy talking about. The characters , the guys that make boxing fun.
I have a few good stories from back many years ago working as a "doorman" in a couple Irish Bars here.
When I see you guys, we will spin a few of these tales over a couple sasparillas.
Stories that might make Frankie Crawford proud.

Rick,
You can throw in a story or two about the infamous Mike Nixon who was just smart enough to marry into the Quarry family! I crossed paths with Nixon when he was training at Newman's in S.F. and you could tell he was a character then. By the way, what ever became of Mike Nixon?
Bruce

Bobbin & Weavin wrote:

Expug wrote:

dagosd2000 wrote:Brian
Isn't St. Paddy's Day coming up? Rick,Frank,you better come up with some Quarry brothers stories. I still have a few Ronnie Wilson and Denny Moyer yarns I can throw out there. I think I used up all my Bob Murphy stories though.

March the 17th is Paddys day Rog.
I love all those stories about Moyer and Murphy. They are classics. They dont make em like that anymore I dont think.
These are the types of guys that we enjoy talking about. The characters , the guys that make boxing fun.
I have a few good stories from back many years ago working as a "doorman" in a couple Irish Bars here.
When I see you guys, we will spin a few of these tales over a couple sasparillas.
Stories that might make Frankie Crawford proud.

Rick,
You can throw in a story or two about the infamous Mike Nixon who was just smart enough to marry into the Quarry family! I crossed paths with Nixon when he was training at Newman's in S.F. and you could tell he was a character then. By the way, what ever became of Mike Nixon?
Bruce