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Besides the Maynard/Hall crap, pretty solid action tonight. Elliott put up a much better effort than I imagined he would. And the Cejudo/Benavedez fight was a cracker just as I figured it would be.

I didn't see the Hall fight but I heard it was a trainwreck.

Kudos to Tim Elliott on giving MM his toughest fight in years. Even in a loss Elliott showed he belongs with the top guys in the division.

Brandon Moreno looked good again, the split decision with all 29-28 cards was shocking, I thought he won every round.

I scored Benavidez/Cejudo a draw, because of the iffy point deduction. It was a fight that really deserved 5 rounds. I hope they do it again. I don't think Benavidez really earned a 3rd shot at MM with that performance. He looked good down the stretch but it was not a decisive victory.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k1M1LoZ1p ... e=youtu.be

22yo Anderson Silva

McGregor is taking 10 months off now

Khabib vs Ferg is likely for the interim title.

p4p1 wrote:McGregor is taking 10 months off now

Khabib vs Ferg is likely for the interim title.

Holding another title hostage.

Technically, I guess you can say he held two UFC titles at the same time. But in reality, he gave one up to get another. And that has certainly been done before. He never defended his FW title. Now, who knows what he even plans to do after his 10 months. Wouldn't surprise me in the least if he fights Nate at 170.

I don't see why we need an interim title just because McGregor won't fight again for 9 months or whatever. It's not like champs have never gone that long without defending before. It happens all the damn time.

And I agree the "double champ" thing is silly. He effectively gave up his FW title when he decided to rematch Diaz instead of going back down and fighting Edgar. I knew at that point he'd never go back to 145.

McG deserves a break, imo.

He doesn't deserve a 10 month break because he just won a title and there is 2 clear contenders who deserved a shot before he did. I see everyone wanting them to fight each other with the winner getting a shot but that's not the way I think should be. They fight each other and there is not another fight after the winner fights for the title. One of the. Should've got the shot with the other fighting Diaz and the winner of that fight getting the next shot.

jujigatame wrote:I don't see why we need an interim title just because McGregor won't fight again for 9 months or whatever. It's not like champs have never gone that long without defending before. It happens all the damn time.

And I agree the "double champ" thing is silly. He effectively gave up his FW title when he decided to rematch Diaz instead of going back down and fighting Edgar. I knew at that point he'd never go back to 145.

I agree but champs don't normally get 10 months off when they're healthy. I'm not 100% sure if the fight will be for the interim title or not but don't forget at the time that Aldo beat Edgar for the intirim title it had been,Ike 6 months since he won't the title.

Pettis could refuck the 145 division tomorrow. He didn't make weight and if he wins who does Aldo fight? The guy that didn't make weight or the guy that did but lost? I'm sure he fights Pettis for the money but if he doesn't make weight for the intirim fight there's no reason to believe he will definitely make it for a fight with Aldo.

That was a sick card.

Choi vs Swanson was a great fight. Choi showed a few weaknesses in the fight though which he will have to fix up to compete against the elite 145ers. Not being able to fight off the back foot will cause some issues. He made me a massive fan though, great technique and power.

Cerrone tried to murder Brown looked like he succeeded for a bit there.

I didn't see anything from Halloway that shows he will beat Aldo. I thought Pettis would've been done a much better job but I think the weight cut slowed him down and then breaking his right hand so early really hampered him. Aldo is saying that he will beat Halloway and move up to 155. I don't see Max being able to stop that plan, everyone seems to have forgotten just how good Aldo is because of a quick knockout. 155 presents some very interesting match ups for Aldo though. I just hope the Halloway vs Aldo fight get done quickly.

How bout that Swanson/Choi fight? What a treat!

Nice card. My boy Brown got KTFO. Sucked. Cerrone is looking amazing at this weight.

Pettis has really taken a plunge. It is painful watching him now knowing how awesome he was when he was on top.

He's so dangerous even now but I think for the most part elite guys have learnt how to keep themselves out of danger when fighting him. He still shows flashes of his brilliance but it's just not often enough. Which how hit table he is I can see why Aldo was screaming for a shot at 155 so much when he was champ.

God I hope Nunes knocks Rousey the fornicate out in a few weeks

Anyone else find Max just really annoying btw? He's going on like Aldo's been avoiding him for years when realistically Aldo hasn't avoided him at all.

p4p1 wrote:He's so dangerous even now but I think for the most part elite guys have learnt how to keep themselves out of danger when fighting him. He still shows flashes of his brilliance but it's just not often enough. Which how hit table he is I can see why Aldo was screaming for a shot at 155 so much when he was champ.

God I hope Nunes knocks Rousey the eff out in a few weeks

Anyone else find Max just really annoying btw? He's going on like Aldo's been avoiding him for years when realistically Aldo hasn't avoided him at all.

Max has become annoying for sure. I don't remember him being so aggressive in his interviews either. It feels like he's now trying to take a page out of Conor's book or something, and it's just not him.

BTW, I feel so bad for Aldo. Dude has been screwed badly. He's not going to get the respect he deserves as a champion unless he somehow meets up with Conor again and beats him. I hope he moves up and can secure a rematch. The way everything went down with him pisses me off a bit.

Decision time for Aldo. He can:

1) Fight Holloway and try to regain full FW champ status.

2) Take a risk, move up to 155, take a fight with someone like Ferguson or Dos Anjos and try to get the McGregor rematch.

3) Continue throwing a tantrum and hold out for an immediate McGregor rematch and fight nobody.

I hope he goes with option 1. He's still the best FW of all time, and the sport is poorer for his absence.

jujigatame wrote:Decision time for Aldo. He can:

1) Fight Holloway and try to regain full FW champ status.

2) Take a risk, move up to 155, take a fight with someone like Ferguson or Dos Anjos and try to get the McGregor rematch.

3) Continue throwing a tantrum and hold out for an immediate McGregor rematch and fight nobody.

I hope he goes with option 1. He's still the best FW of all time, and the sport is poorer for his absence.

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I believe he'd do even better not draining. Plus, a McGregor rematch is much more realistic at that weight.

jujigatame wrote:Decision time for Aldo. He can:

1) Fight Holloway and try to regain full FW champ status.

2) Take a risk, move up to 155, take a fight with someone like Ferguson or Dos Anjos and try to get the McGregor rematch.

3) Continue throwing a tantrum and hold out for an immediate McGregor rematch and fight nobody.

I hope he goes with option 1. He's still the best FW of all time, and the sport is poorer for his absence.

I read somewhere he is saying he will defend the title against Halloway(at the time it was the winner of the fight) and then move up to 155. He's cleared out the division anyway time to move up. I think he will do well at 155 the only guy I can't see him finding a way to win against is Khabib. I really don't think Max has shown anything that says he can beat Aldo it'll likely be a one sided UD. I think we will see the return of his leg kicks.

Reports/rumours than Aldo vs Halloway is a done deal for feb 11 at UFC208.

Who picking who?

Holloway is the real deal but I can't bet against Aldo. Also 2 months is a very short turnaround for Holloway to fight again.

Aldo. But Holloway's a live dog.

Jon Jones submitted Dan Hendo at SUG2 (Submission Underground) last night. And apparently, him and Sonnen will be squaring off in a future event.

http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/12/11/1 ... ael-sonnen


I was unaware of this tournament... More info in case you guys are interested in future events...

http://www.flograppling.com/event/25436 ... -henderson

Aldo has confirmed feb 11. He said that the plan was always to fight the winner on feb 11.

Not knowledgeable on MMA but find this interesting, who wins between Aldo (or prime Aldo if you guys think he's slipped) and Khabib at 155?

From the little I've seen of Khabib his striking hasn't really impressed me, whereas Aldo as far as I'm aware has excellent Muay Thai and BJJ in addition to great takedown defence. Would he be too versatile and skilled or would the jump to 155 to fight Khabib be too much? The way Khabib seems to toy with fully grown men is crazy.

ElJefe wrote:Not knowledgeable on MMA but find this interesting, who wins between Aldo (or prime Aldo if you guys think he's slipped) and Khabib at 155?

From the little I've seen of Khabib his striking hasn't really impressed me, whereas Aldo as far as I'm aware has excellent Muay Thai and BJJ in addition to great takedown defence. Would he be too versatile and skilled or would the jump to 155 to fight Khabib be too much? The way Khabib seems to toy with fully grown men is crazy.

Khabib is a bigger stronger grappler and hasn't to my knowledge dropped a round in the UFC so I would t bet against him. With Khabibs all out aggressiveness he could catch Khabib coming in with a counter and he does still have power to finish guys. However before Aldo switched to focus on MMA, he submitted Cobrinha(who is older) during his BJJ career when they were both brown belts. Cobrinha went on to win 6 no Gi and 4 Gi world championships as well as medaling in every world championships he entered and is considered one of the greatest BJJ guys ever. Gray Maynard who trained with Aldo said he struggled to get him down, Aldo is great at getting back to his feet when he is taken down. I don't remember anyone holding him down for longer than 10 seconds so he could pop back up. Striking it's no contest obviously but what we would have is 2 world grappling champions in a fight decided by who could apply their grappling best. Khabib with his TDs and GnP, Aldo with his TDD, scrambling, switches and guard. It'd be very interesting so see if Aldo ended up on top what Khabibs bottom game is like because historically Aldo slices through everyone's guard like they're not even defending.

I would favour Khabib due to his size, strength and skill but Aldo *could* have the grappling to nullify Khabib and implement his striking or the grappling to outgrapple khabib. Neither have ever been outgrappled in the big leagues so I feel like we don't really know where eaches ceiling is and it could turn into an amazing grapplefest. It's actually a fight I really want to see. If Aldo was to get the W I don't see anyone above him ever, Khabib is a fornicating freak.

Impractical Poster wrote:

p4p1 wrote:He's so dangerous even now but I think for the most part elite guys have learnt how to keep themselves out of danger when fighting him. He still shows flashes of his brilliance but it's just not often enough. Which how hit table he is I can see why Aldo was screaming for a shot at 155 so much when he was champ.

God I hope Nunes knocks Rousey the eff out in a few weeks

Anyone else find Max just really annoying btw? He's going on like Aldo's been avoiding him for years when realistically Aldo hasn't avoided him at all.

Max has become annoying for sure. I don't remember him being so aggressive in his interviews either. It feels like he's now trying to take a page out of Conor's book or something, and it's just not him.

BTW, I feel so bad for Aldo. Dude has been screwed badly. He's not going to get the respect he deserves as a champion unless he somehow meets up with Conor again and beats him. I hope he moves up and can secure a rematch. The way everything went down with him pisses me off a bit.

I've been a longtime Aldo fan, even before wec and I'm of the complete opposite view. I'm sick of him whining. Get off your ass and make it happen. A rematch of a 13 second ko is a hard sell.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Impractical Poster wrote:

p4p1 wrote:He's so dangerous even now but I think for the most part elite guys have learnt how to keep themselves out of danger when fighting him. He still shows flashes of his brilliance but it's just not often enough. Which how hit table he is I can see why Aldo was screaming for a shot at 155 so much when he was champ.

God I hope Nunes knocks Rousey the eff out in a few weeks

Anyone else find Max just really annoying btw? He's going on like Aldo's been avoiding him for years when realistically Aldo hasn't avoided him at all.

Max has become annoying for sure. I don't remember him being so aggressive in his interviews either. It feels like he's now trying to take a page out of Conor's book or something, and it's just not him.

BTW, I feel so bad for Aldo. Dude has been screwed badly. He's not going to get the respect he deserves as a champion unless he somehow meets up with Conor again and beats him. I hope he moves up and can secure a rematch. The way everything went down with him pisses me off a bit.

I've been a longtime Aldo fan, even before wec and I'm of the complete opposite view. I'm sick of him whining. Get off your ass and make it happen. A rematch of a 13 second ko is a hard sell.

I don't think it's too hard to sell. Getting sparked that early doesn't paint a picture of what a rematch would look like. Similar thing happened with Cain/JDS, with the exception that Cain was not the champ. With Aldo having been the long time champ, the only FW champ the UFC has ever had, I find it unfair that they did not grant him an immediate rematch. I understand why the did not, but it doesn't make it any less wrong. Imagine had they done something like that with other long reigning champions like GSP or Silva.

Impractical Poster wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Impractical Poster wrote: Max has become annoying for sure. I don't remember him being so aggressive in his interviews either. It feels like he's now trying to take a page out of Conor's book or something, and it's just not him.

BTW, I feel so bad for Aldo. Dude has been screwed badly. He's not going to get the respect he deserves as a champion unless he somehow meets up with Conor again and beats him. I hope he moves up and can secure a rematch. The way everything went down with him pisses me off a bit.

I've been a longtime Aldo fan, even before wec and I'm of the complete opposite view. I'm sick of him whining. Get off your ass and make it happen. A rematch of a 13 second ko is a hard sell.

I don't think it's too hard to sell. Getting sparked that early doesn't paint a picture of what a rematch would look like. Similar thing happened with Cain/JDS, with the exception that Cain was not the champ. With Aldo having been the long time champ, the only FW champ the UFC has ever had, I find it unfair that they did not grant him an immediate rematch. I understand why the did not, but it doesn't make it any less wrong. Imagine had they done something like that with other long reigning champions like GSP or Silva.

Cain was champ when JDS knocked him out. Remember there was a massive issue because it was their debut on dos and the UFC decided just to show the HW title fight in an hour long spot. The fight ended in 64 seconds and was a major fornicate up for their first show on fox.

The thing with Aldo is he has been promised a rematch twice. 1st time was after McGregor lost to Diaz, Aldo was due to have his rematch at 200 before McGregor threw his toys out of the pram. The second time he was promised his rematch if he beat Edgar for the interim belt which again he didn't get despite earning it(in arguably a career best performance). Then things are bought up like how he turned down the McGregor rematch on 10 days notice at 155 with no belt on the line having been only a few days clear of a medical suspension. Its not the first time he has been thrown under the bus by the UFC.