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Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game

Posted: 28 Jul 2009, 01:08
by AngryGoon38
Goodnight, Irene wrote:Ortiz gets a controversial split over Canzoneri, then UD's Tszyu.

Hawk Pryor (1982) & Viper Forrest (2002) at 147lbs?

Forrest wins by SD...Forrest finishes the stronger and busier to rally from a 4-2-2 deficit...3-0-1 the rest of the way..5-4-3 type decision..Very competitive..No 10-8 rounds..No Knockdown's.

Marvin Hagler vs Ernie Shavers (1990)

If Hagler,at 36 years of age had returned after a 3 year retirement with a new 190+(193 to be exact) lb frame to take on a 45 year old 220 lb Shavers.

10 Rounds.

:box:

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game

Posted: 28 Jul 2009, 21:55
by allworld80
No doubt in my mind that Hagler takes a decision, winning every round along the way. Normally I would factor in weight, but not here. Hager UD.

Micky Ward vs Ray Mancini @ JWW

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game

Posted: 28 Jul 2009, 23:12
by Sweet P
Ray Mancini takes a narrow SD win over Ward.


An aussie one here

Lionel Rose VS Vic Darchinyan. At 118 pounds

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game

Posted: 29 Jul 2009, 15:20
by My2Sense
ben k wrote: An aussie one here

Lionel Rose VS Vic Darchinyan. At 118 pounds
Might be competitive early, but I think Rose takes control by the middle rounds and then stops him late.


Next up: The victorious Rose goes on to fight Jeff Fenech at the same weight.

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game

Posted: 31 Jul 2009, 22:35
by mhagler91490
My2Sense wrote:
ben k wrote: An aussie one here

Lionel Rose VS Vic Darchinyan. At 118 pounds
Might be competitive early, but I think Rose takes control by the middle rounds and then stops him late.


Next up: The victorious Rose goes on to fight Jeff Fenech at the same weight.
I think Fenech would not let Rose get into his rythym, and would bully him all throughout the fight and would take a UD or late tko reminiscent on Duran-Buchanan.

Tony Lopez vs Bobby Chacon
junior lightweight

Emile Griffith vs Billy Graham
welterweight

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game

Posted: 31 Jul 2009, 23:05
by HomicideHenry
Lopez MD 12 and Griffith UD Graham


Main Event:

Floyd 'Money' Mayweather vs Sugar Ray Leonard, Welterweight, 12 rounds

Undercard:

Manny Pacquia vs Roberto Duran, catchweight 144 pounds, 12 rounds

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game

Posted: 01 Aug 2009, 03:36
by Robinson
The judges declare it a draw between SRL and PBF. It is a steady
game of counter and speed boxing, but neither man risks it all.
Alot of superb subtle elements for those that appreciate the sweet
science.

Duran aborbs the early intial explosive start by the Pacman, but starts
to come back around the 5th. Some heated exchanges, but Duran
sets a good pace on the inside that see's Pacman slowing.
By the end of the fight, it is still close to call.

Duran SD Pacquaio.

A triple header....

Bob Foster (1972) vs Henry Cooper (1964) 12 rounds.

Ray Mercer (1991) vs James Toney (2003) 12 rounds.

Chis Byrd (2002) vs Tyrell Biggs (1987) 12 rounds.

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game

Posted: 01 Aug 2009, 17:14
by HomicideHenry
Robinson wrote:The judges declare it a draw between SRL and PBF. It is a steady
game of counter and speed boxing, but neither man risks it all.
Alot of superb subtle elements for those that appreciate the sweet
science.

Duran aborbs the early intial explosive start by the Pacman, but starts
to come back around the 5th. Some heated exchanges, but Duran
sets a good pace on the inside that see's Pacman slowing.
By the end of the fight, it is still close to call.

Duran SD Pacquaio.

A triple header....

Bob Foster (1972) vs Henry Cooper (1964) 12 rounds.

Ray Mercer (1991) vs James Toney (2003) 12 rounds.

Chis Byrd (2002) vs Tyrell Biggs (1987) 12 rounds.
Cooper rallies in the 10th round to knock out Bob Foster

Toney wins a MD over Ray Mercer

and call me crazy, Tyrell Biggs at his best I think takes a decision over Byrd!


Main Event:

Larry Holmes vs Joe Louis, 15 rounds

Undercard:

Ali vs Frazier IV (c. 1976), 15 rounds

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game

Posted: 01 Aug 2009, 22:31
by Robinson
Holmes wins the decision, dropping Louis in the early stages
only himself to be dropped by Louis.

This fight between Ali and Frazier is slower, more slower paced. It
has both men going hard early, but Ali holds on, clinches excesively
whil Frazier bangs away at the body. Frazier tries to land that
one big blow, but he is either smothered by Ali, or he just misses.
By the fights end, it is an almost anti climax.
The holding by Ali draws many a condemnation by those who watched
it and Frazier.

The judges give it to Ali in a close race. But it is easily argued that
Frazier was robbed.



Ezzard Charles (1950) Vs David Tua (1999) 12 rounds.

James J Corbett (1892) Vs Tommy Burns (1905) 15 rounds

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game

Posted: 05 Aug 2009, 14:39
by allworld80
Charles too much of a technician for Tua, and takes a UD.

Corbett and Burns a tough one to call. I'd favor Corbett slightly, possibly a SD.

Fresh of his heartstopping win over Vasilly Jirov....

James Toney (2003) vs Jimmy Young (1974) @ a catchweight of 200

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game

Posted: 05 Aug 2009, 19:49
by Goodnight, Irene
Damn, what a tough call. I guess one work-rate is the difference, & the naturally quicker & bigger Young is just a little too busy in the end. Close, close fight to the end.

Prime Acelino Freitas vs. 2007 Juan Diaz.

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game

Posted: 07 Aug 2009, 15:30
by allworld80
Coin toss. Freitas is not going to outwork the baby bull, but if he can keep him at bay with bigger power punching, and better boxing, he wins a close one. Freitas SD or MD.

Fresh off his 2nd close loss to Mayweather, moving up in weight....

Joe Luis Castillo vs Kostya Tszyu @ 140

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game

Posted: 07 Aug 2009, 18:14
by Goodnight, Irene
Tszyu narrowly out-points Castillo in an epic, savage, bruising affair. Sharper shots & cleaner punching from Tszyu help him edge it, but, boy, wouldn't Castillo love Tszyu's wide-apart elbow stance. He'd really have success working Tszyu's mid-section, the way a younger Chavez would have, IMO. Tszyu, very close, on points.

Tszyu's turn to move up. 2002 fight with Vernon Forrest (in-between fights I & II with Mosley).

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game

Posted: 08 Aug 2009, 12:47
by Datsue
Goodnight, Irene wrote:.

Tszyu's turn to move up. 2002 fight with Vernon Forrest (in-between fights I & II with Mosley).
This isn't going to be the most popular reply ever on this thread, but I always fancied Tszyu to land one straight right on Vernon & level him, possibly when far behind on points. Kostya was smarter than Mosley, less reliant on sheer natural physical gifts & therefore more likely to think a way through the Viper's puzzle, rather than stand there & get pelted or fall in & hug (Shane's strategies when his natural gifts were negated by the tall & lengthy Forrest).

Howsabout...


Pedro Ruben Decima (Banke fight) vs Poison Junior Jones (first Barrera fight), 12 rounds, superbantamweight.

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game

Posted: 12 Aug 2009, 00:03
by Goodnight, Irene
Jones via split decision.

15 Rounds between Luis Firpo & Oscar Bonavena.

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game

Posted: 12 Aug 2009, 16:10
by allworld80
Bonavena to close the deal mid rounds. Firpo game, but outgunned. Bonavena TKO7.

Battle for welterweight supremacy in Ghana....

Ike Quartay (1999) vs Joshua Clottey (2009)

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game

Posted: 14 Aug 2009, 22:45
by Goodnight, Irene
Quartey by razor-thin majority decision. Very close. Calls for a return heard near-&-far.

2000 Roy Jones (43-1-0) vs. 1987 Evander Holyfield (17-0-0) at Cruiser over twelve rounds...

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game

Posted: 15 Aug 2009, 19:09
by allworld80
Holyfield applies the pressure all night, in constant motion with his punches, and delivers an astounding work rate to the fight.

He also loses decisively, with Jones cracking his pot shots at will, and snapping Evander's head back with lighting quick combination punching. Too good for a young Holyfield. Jones UD.

Jones next travels to Germany....

Roy Jones Jr. (2003) vs Max Schmeling (1936) @ 190

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game

Posted: 21 Aug 2009, 05:39
by gambler49
Schmelling KO 8

Tommy Hearns (1988) vs Joe Calazage (2005) @ 168lbs

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game

Posted: 21 Aug 2009, 11:27
by hitman09
gambler49 wrote:Schmelling KO 8

Tommy Hearns (1988) vs Joe Calazage (2005) @ 168lbs
Hearns KO5

Andrew Golota vs Zora Folley 15 rds HW

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game

Posted: 21 Aug 2009, 15:54
by allworld80
A prime and sane Golota was a fiercesome opponent, and I think he does a number on Folley. Golota KO7.

Mike Tyson (1988) vs Riddick Bowe (1992)

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game

Posted: 21 Aug 2009, 17:19
by prodigious1
Bowe with the quickness of his jab, right hand and uppercut. Most importantly though, he was just a tougher man upstairs. He'd knock Tyson out.

Beau Jack vs Juan Diaz.

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game

Posted: 21 Aug 2009, 22:11
by My2Sense
prodigious1 wrote: Beau Jack vs Juan Diaz.
Jack by late stoppage. His bigger punching gives him the edge most of the way, and ultimately wears down Diaz to a stoppage.


Next up:
Tony "The Tiger" Lopez vs. Christopher "Battling" Battalino @130.

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game

Posted: 25 Aug 2009, 02:45
by allworld80
Lopez with a hard fought SD.

Kelly Pavlik vs Emile Griffith @ MW

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game

Posted: 25 Aug 2009, 03:19
by I Feel Fine
Griffith fought competitively past his prime against Monzon, so I would pick him to beat Pavlik, even if only by a close decision.

Fifteen rounders:

Carmen Basilio vs. the Duran of the first Leonard fight

Undercard: Julian Jackson vs. Rocky Graziano at 157 lbs