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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 Mar 2009, 10:31
by kikibalt
bennie wrote:I have tinnitus, Frankie (ringing in the ears). I've had it for years and learned to live with it because I had good days and bad, and lived for the good.
However, just after the New Year a new sound emerged, almost an audible sound, like someone whispering over and over in my ears. The good days are gone. Tinnitus is like lack of sleep: it does not kill anyone but it makes you feel like shit. It delibitates.
Bennie, my friend, we here at the Baltazar's home will be praying for you, pray that you will get and feel better, hang in there, friend.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 Mar 2009, 10:47
by dagosd2000
iskigoe wrote:Nevada State Journal, February 14, 1945
"Hype Igoe, Board of Boxing, Will Have Permanent Place In Annals of Fistic World. By Jack Cuddy, U.P. Staff Correspondent
Hype Igoe-board of boxing: minstrel man of maul-has gone to join the immortals whom he glorified in his sagas of the ring: and they will welcome him because he was their crony and a great champion in their own line.

From the days of "Gentleman Jim" Corbett, little Hype and his glowing tales of gladiators probably did more to popularize prize fighting than the heroics of any ring-king about whom he wrote. For he was a genius at capturing the drama, romance and color of this strange profession.

His unfailing buoyancy was illustrated before the Louis-Braddock heavyweight title fight at Chicago in June, 1937. Mike Jacobs and the brigade of sports writers threw a party at the Morrison hotel for Hype, celebrating his 60th birthday. Hype, though suffering from the shingles, a skin inflammation, was the life of the party. Always on the alert for a gage, it was at his suggestion that the lights were turned out in the banquet room when a certain editor, who had a reputation for long windedness, rose to speak. The editor said, "Just sit still boys, and I'll talk to you until the lights come on." About five minutes later a waitor turned on the lights - and there was the editor talking to himself. His audience had sneaked out in the darkness.

Hype loved and lived boxing throughout his career on the San Francisco Examiner and the New York papers - Journal Sun, World and Journal-American. He did roadwork withthe fighters in their camps and was a buddy of virtually every champion from Corbett on down. He mingled with the managers around the taverns, and with the strange characters around the gymnasiums. They never seemed strange to him.

Many of Hype's stories were syndicated and read from coast to coast. He also did "ghost" writing for promiment fighters and managers. Writing for Doc Kearns before the first Jack Dempsey - Gene Tunney fight at Philadelphia he was unable to reach Kearns on the eve of the battle to get his prediction. Manager Kearns and Dempsey had split up. Hype figured that Kearns would pick Tunney to win, because of his dispute with the Mauler. So out went the story under Kearns name: "I Pick Tunney!" Meanwhile Hype picked Dempsey in his own piece.

When Kearns heard of his Tunney selection he was furious. He bellowed, "I'll kill that Igoe with my bare hands! He's made me the laughing stock of the country." Later he was delighted after the title changed hands that very night
Kevin
Thanks for posting these gems. BTW. What's your take on Ring Lardner's short stories "Horseshoes" and "Alibi Ike. I know they're about baseball,but their style is so much like your grand father's and that peer group. Also, have you ever read Hemingway's "50 Grand"? Best boxing short story I've ever read. "The Battler" is also a good one by Papa. thanks. Rog

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 Mar 2009, 10:50
by kikibalt
Good morning, Rog.... :TU:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 Mar 2009, 10:52
by dagosd2000
kikibalt wrote:
bennie wrote:I have tinnitus, Frankie (ringing in the ears). I've had it for years and learned to live with it because I had good days and bad, and lived for the good.
However, just after the New Year a new sound emerged, almost an audible sound, like someone whispering over and over in my ears. The good days are gone. Tinnitus is like lack of sleep: it does not kill anyone but it makes you feel like shit. It delibitates.
Bennie, my friend, we here at the Baltazar's home will be praying for you, pray that you will get and feel better, hang in there, friend.
Bennie 'ol pal
Keep posting. It's good for the soul. Helps take your mind off things. Hang in there. Sooner or later they'll come up with something. We're thinking and praying for you on this side of the pond. Rog

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 Mar 2009, 10:59
by dagosd2000
kikibalt wrote:Good morning, Rog.... :TU:

Buenos Dias Amigo. Found a nice pic of Mando Ramos. Will work on that later. Starting to paint over some of the old stuff. Got a bigger warehoiuse to put my books and paintings in. Will go there in a minute to sort things out,then get back and work on Mando. BTW. That J.C. Jr. fight in TJ is a mess. Everyone is dropping off the card. They're thinking of opening the doors to the public for free. No way I'm goin' if they do that. All the cops in TJ couldn't control that.

The great grand kid (Erik) tipped the scales at 8 pounds 6 ounces. Eating like a heavy weight :TU:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 Mar 2009, 11:12
by kikibalt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHl2sueVbLs

Here's one for you, Rog, I can just see you sitting at table.

"En El Ultimo trago"
Rosario Y Francisco

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 Mar 2009, 11:42
by iskigoe
Rick,

I have not yet had time to read some of the related works, like Lardner,
runyon, papa and doyle, but hope to get to soon. I have gone from being almost a none reader to have to much to get to. I have read the Abysmal Brute by Jack london in my course of research. I found it a great story I wonder if it was ever made into a movie of some kind. it could be easly adapted to modern times.

Ring Lardner is another worthy canidate for rememberance, but Hype first. I beleave Hype has a larger body of work when it comes to boxing. sadly often it is easier for some one like Lardner because they are famous for things other then boxing. its not pure but I have grown to understand you have to bring the people in.
Hype was also a big baseball writer while Lardner was writing and they were close, as were all sportswriters of the era. it would make sense you could see some of the same style.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 Mar 2009, 12:02
by dagosd2000
kikibalt wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHl2sueVbLs

Here's one for you, Rog, I can just see you sitting at table.

"En El Ultimo trago"
Rosario Y Francisco
Frank
Got my wife out of bed with that one. She's tellin' me that this is from an episode from one of her novelas,"La Hija De Mariachi". The male singer is Mexican,but everyone else is from Colombia. Filmed there as well. I guess the last episode is Tuesday. Won't be watchin'. That's the night I take Amanda to Flamenco. :D

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 Mar 2009, 12:14
by dagosd2000
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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 Mar 2009, 12:57
by Randyman
kikibalt wrote:
bennie wrote:I have tinnitus, Frankie (ringing in the ears). I've had it for years and learned to live with it because I had good days and bad, and lived for the good.
However, just after the New Year a new sound emerged, almost an audible sound, like someone whispering over and over in my ears. The good days are gone. Tinnitus is like lack of sleep: it does not kill anyone but it makes you feel like shit. It delibitates.
Bennie, my friend, we here at the Baltazar's home will be praying for you, pray that you will get and feel better, hang in there, friend.
The same for the De La O household Bennie. You're in our prayers friend! Hang in there.

Randy

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 Mar 2009, 12:59
by Randyman
dagosd2000 wrote:Image

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Rog, I am running out of superlatives to describe your work. You are the real deal.

Randy :TU: :bow:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 Mar 2009, 13:01
by Randyman
dagosd2000 wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Good morning, Rog.... :TU:

Buenos Dias Amigo. Found a nice pic of Mando Ramos. Will work on that later. Starting to paint over some of the old stuff. Got a bigger warehoiuse to put my books and paintings in. Will go there in a minute to sort things out,then get back and work on Mando. BTW. That J.C. Jr. fight in TJ is a mess. Everyone is dropping off the card. They're thinking of opening the doors to the public for free. No way I'm goin' if they do that. All the cops in TJ couldn't control that.

The great grand kid (Erik) tipped the scales at 8 pounds 6 ounces. Eating like a heavy weight :TU:
So when is Erik's first fight?

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 Mar 2009, 13:07
by Randyman
iskigoe wrote:Rick,

I have not yet had time to read some of the related works, like Lardner,
runyon, papa and doyle, but hope to get to soon. I have gone from being almost a none reader to have to much to get to. I have read the Abysmal Brute by Jack london in my course of research. I found it a great story I wonder if it was ever made into a movie of some kind. it could be easly adapted to modern times.

Ring Lardner is another worthy canidate for rememberance, but Hype first. I beleave Hype has a larger body of work when it comes to boxing. sadly often it is easier for some one like Lardner because they are famous for things other then boxing. its not pure but I have grown to understand you have to bring the people in.
Hype was also a big baseball writer while Lardner was writing and they were close, as were all sportswriters of the era. it would make sense you could see some of the same style.
Kevin, thanks for all the great posting on Hype's past articles. great stuff and appreciated.

Randy :TU:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 Mar 2009, 13:30
by dagosd2000
Image

Mando Ramos

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 Mar 2009, 13:34
by dagosd2000
Randyman wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Good morning, Rog.... :TU:

Buenos Dias Amigo. Found a nice pic of Mando Ramos. Will work on that later. Starting to paint over some of the old stuff. Got a bigger warehoiuse to put my books and paintings in. Will go there in a minute to sort things out,then get back and work on Mando. BTW. That J.C. Jr. fight in TJ is a mess. Everyone is dropping off the card. They're thinking of opening the doors to the public for free. No way I'm goin' if they do that. All the cops in TJ couldn't control that.

The great grand kid (Erik) tipped the scales at 8 pounds 6 ounces. Eating like a heavy weight :TU:
So when is Erik's first fight?
Randy
I kind of get protective around the little ones now. I don't know. If he wants to get into fighting I'll back him 100%. If not,it's OK with me. Rog :TU:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 Mar 2009, 13:41
by Rick Farris
iskigoe wrote:Rick,

Of course you have my blessing. I will try to put a bio together, but I am not
a skilled writer. Hopefully my passion will over come my weakness. Hype is an
odd case he had many talents but devoted his life to boxing. I have done much study
on boxing writers, and I must say Hype was probably the most quoted and written about boxing writer
of his time. Sometimes a person outside the ropes can have a large impact on the sport, as Jack Cuddy
wrote on my grandfathers passing. Hype may have done more to popularise the sport of boxing then
many of the ring heros he wrote about.

Thanks in advance for your interest


Kevin Igoe
Kevin . . . Just send me the facts, maybe copies of some of his best work (all I have read that you have provided is great, great history.) I'll put it together and do the footwork on this end. The main thing is to get him on the ballot and from there I'll make a push for him. We have not inducted a legendary boxing scribe in awhile and we don't want his contribution to go unrecognized.

Within the week, I will be meeting with our Selection Commitee and will put up the name Hype Igoe for induction in the WBHOF expanded catagory for "Writers, Historians & Photo Journalists. The goal is to put Hype's name along with those of Nat Fleishcher, Damon Ronyon, Grantland Rice, Luis Magana, Jimmy Cannon, Jim Murray, Reg Gutteridge, etc.


-Rick Farris

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 Mar 2009, 13:47
by Rick Farris
dagosd2000 wrote:
iskigoe wrote:Rick,

Of course you have my blessing. I will try to put a bio together, but I am not
a skilled writer. Hopefully my passion will over come my weakness. Hype is an
odd case he had many talents but devoted his life to boxing. I have done much study
on boxing writers, and I must say Hype was probably the most quoted and written about boxing writer
of his time. Sometimes a person outside the ropes can have a large impact on the sport, as Jack Cuddy
wrote on my grandfathers passing. Hype may have done more to popularise the sport of boxing then
many of the ring heros he wrote about.

Thanks in advance for your interest
Kevin Igoe

Kevin
Jack Cuddy made a very point about your grandfather's position as a writer of the sport. The focus was on the fighter and the event. In turn your grandfather positioned himself,unintentionally,alongside the fighters that were the topics of his stories.

Like Ernie Pyle,the great war correspondent,Hype Igoe was the fighters' pal like Ernie was the soldiers' pal. The fighters and the soldiers feel a comfort zone and trust with writers like them.
Roger, your words on Hype Igoe say it all. If you don't mind, I'm going to borrow them to use in my efforts to get Hype Igoe inducted this year. I know that I will have full support of our "selection commitee".

-Rick

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 Mar 2009, 13:48
by Rick Farris
dagosd2000 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-13ww045Fo

Joe Louis Was A Fighting Man

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:TU: Beautiful, Roger.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 Mar 2009, 13:52
by Rick Farris
raylawpc wrote:
bennie wrote:I have tinnitus, Frankie (ringing in the ears). I've had it for years and learned to live with it because I had good days and bad, and lived for the good.
However, just after the New Year a new sound emerged, almost an audible sound, like someone whispering over and over in my ears. The good days are gone. Tinnitus is like lack of sleep: it does not kill anyone but it makes you feel like shit. It delibitates.
Bennie, you have my sympathy. I, too, have tinnitus, but mine is much milder than yours. Mine is a constant hissing in my ears - kind of like steam escaping from a vent. Some times it will get quite loud, but most of the time its just a background noise constantly in my head.

I'll be praying for you buddy.

I just sent a prayer up myself, Bennie. I wish you peace.

-Rick

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 Mar 2009, 14:14
by Rick Farris
dagosd2000 wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Good morning, Rog.... :TU:

Buenos Dias Amigo. Found a nice pic of Mando Ramos. Will work on that later. Starting to paint over some of the old stuff. Got a bigger warehoiuse to put my books and paintings in. Will go there in a minute to sort things out,then get back and work on Mando. BTW. That J.C. Jr. fight in TJ is a mess. Everyone is dropping off the card. They're thinking of opening the doors to the public for free. No way I'm goin' if they do that. All the cops in TJ couldn't control that.

The great grand kid (Erik) tipped the scales at 8 pounds 6 ounces. Eating like a heavy weight :TU:

Hey Roger . . .

We will be having a couple WBHOF events this year prior to the banquet. No dates as of yet, but I would like to incorporate your art into the events. As soon as we have something solid to discuss I will contact you. Last year, we put on a very successful "Women in Boxing" event, one smaller than the Induction banquet, 300 guests as opposed to 1200. This "art" concept is something unique, there are no rules, let's just shoot from the hip and see what we hit.

-Rick

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 Mar 2009, 14:27
by Rick Farris
dagosd2000 wrote:Image

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Roger . . . I agree with Randy. Every piece of art you provide us with is special. Like the De La O family, Monica and I are big fans of your work. Not just the boxing stuff, everything. And as for TJ? It was just an idea, but not something I need to do or Monica. We've both been there, I don't need any potential challenges at this time of my life. I don't look for trouble and I take it real personal when it finds me for no reason. I confront trouble, I don't run from it, which is not always good, especially in a place like TJ.

-Rick

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 Mar 2009, 14:39
by Rick Farris
World Boxing Hall of Fame Inductees . . .

Expanded catagory:
"Writers-Historians-Photo Journalists"


John Beyrooty
Jimmy Cannon
Harry Carpenter
Ty Cobb
Bill Conlin
Jack Fiske
Nat Fleischer
Joe Gayras
Reg Gutteridge
John Hall
Hank Kaplan
A.J. Leibling
George Luckman
Luis Magana
Billy Mahoney
Allan Malamud
Eddie Muller
Jim Murray
Mike Neporadny
Dan Parker
Grantland Rice
Charlie Ross
Damon Runyon
Don "Sailor" Sauer
Red Smith
Bert Randoph Sugar
Tony unitas
Danny Wambolt

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 Mar 2009, 14:59
by dagosd2000
Rick Farris wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:
iskigoe wrote:Rick,

Of course you have my blessing. I will try to put a bio together, but I am not
a skilled writer. Hopefully my passion will over come my weakness. Hype is an
odd case he had many talents but devoted his life to boxing. I have done much study
on boxing writers, and I must say Hype was probably the most quoted and written about boxing writer
of his time. Sometimes a person outside the ropes can have a large impact on the sport, as Jack Cuddy
wrote on my grandfathers passing. Hype may have done more to popularise the sport of boxing then
many of the ring heros he wrote about.

Thanks in advance for your interest
Kevin Igoe

Kevin
Jack Cuddy made a very point about your grandfather's position as a writer of the sport. The focus was on the fighter and the event. In turn your grandfather positioned himself,unintentionally,alongside the fighters that were the topics of his stories.

Like Ernie Pyle,the great war correspondent,Hype Igoe was the fighters' pal like Ernie was the soldiers' pal. The fighters and the soldiers feel a comfort zone and trust with writers like them.
Roger, your words on Hype Igoe say it all. If you don't mind, I'm going to borrow them to use in my efforts to get Hype Igoe inducted this year. I know that I will have full support of our "selection commitee".

-Rick
Thanks Rick
Feel honored again. Let me know about things coming . Have art will travel. :TU: Rog

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 Mar 2009, 15:04
by iskigoe
Rick,

Thats a great list. It would be something to see Hype's name among them.
I will say Im surpised I have not peaked at the list before. It is full of some real hardcore boxing writers and not just the ones that may have done somthing outside boxing that made them famous.

I am working like a mad dog on the Bio as we speak. That list is making it all seem worth the effort. I did have to stop and sell a car. Got to pay the rent.

ki

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 Mar 2009, 15:07
by dagosd2000
Rick Farris wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:Image

Sisters


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Formerly on exhibit at the Museum Of The Living Artist in Balboa Park
San Diego

Roger . . . I agree with Randy. Every piece of art you provide us with is special. Like the De La O family, Monica and I are big fans of your work. Not just the boxing stuff, everything. And as for TJ? It was just an idea, but not something I need to do or Monica. We've both been there, I don't need any potential challenges at this time of my life. I don't look for trouble and I take it real personal when it finds me for no reason. I confront trouble, I don't run from it, which is not always good, especially in a place like TJ.

-Rick

Rick
All kidding aside. Thousands of people commute back and forth every day. It's funny how the news can scare people if they haven't experienced it. TJ is safe if you're aware. If you're involved with drugs or other illegal activities then you're stacking the odds against you. People like me? Well I don't live down there. Walk around in broad daylight and with crowds when I go.It's OK. It's a contrast that always makes a profound impression in me.

If you and Monica ever get the urge,let me know. Something about Mexico,even Tijuana,that I think is in my pores. Rog


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