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Hi Rick,

I see your out there. Your buddy Rick Session is home from vacation. :evil:

Hope all is well with you and the wife ( your still married right?)

The family is still here and Mo is getting back in the gym this week coming.

Took about three months off so that he could miss it and then love it again.

You know what I mean.
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Rog,

I fought under the name of Rudy Ramirez. I go by Rudy Orozco now but that another story for another day. Ruben Castillo, Maunel Lujan use to spar all the time. I hung out with Manuel's brother John in high school, San Diego High. I use to train in San Ysidro and my coach was Norman Bumpy Parra, some know him as Buzzsaw from his boxing days. My mom still lives in Encanto, right there by Lemon Grove.
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I meant to say, Ruben Castillo, Manuel Lujan and I use to sparr all the time..............
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The Kid wrote:Rog,

I fought under the name of Rudy Ramirez. I go by Rudy Orozco now but that another story for another day. Ruben Castillo, Maunel Lujan use to spar all the time. I hung out with Manuel's brother John in high school, San Diego High. I use to train in San Ysidro and my coach was Norman Bumpy Parra, some know him as Buzzsaw from his boxing days. My mom still lives in Encanto, right there by Lemon Grove.
Rudy . . . I should have known! It's about time you showed up. This is your kinda place, and for those of you who don't know, Rudy's son Moses, is one of the best Junior Amateur boxers in the world! A multi-national Jr. Champion with an unbeaten streak a mile long. Rudy is "Kid Rooter", former pro boxer and plumbing contractor to the champs.

Rudy, forget about boxing history for a moment . . . tell us what's going on with Mighty Mo Orozco.

And Rudy, I'll tell you again what I say to Rog, when the day comes they tear down the S.D. Coliseum, this will be my historical reaction- :lol:

Welcome, Rudy. and tell your brother Ed my dad says, "Hello".


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The Kid wrote:I meant to say, Ruben Castillo, Manuel Lujan and I use to sparr all the time..............
Guys . . . Rudy fought Tommy Hearns in the amateurs.

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The Kid wrote:Hi Rick,

I see your out there. Your buddy Rick Session is home from vacation. :evil:

Hope all is well with you and the wife ( your still married right?)

The family is still here and Mo is getting back in the gym this week coming.

Took about three months off so that he could miss it and then love it again.

You know what I mean.

:lol: You mean you're bro-in-law, Ricky Sessions? Tell Mr. Sessions his son has called me, and as soon as the actors come to their senses and return and sign the producer's deal, I'll have some work for him on a production I have on hold. He sounds like a good kid, and I'd be happy to help him get started. You might like to know that we have some great Mexican chefs posting here. There's Randy, Rog's wife Maria, and "Kept Man" Frank has Connie, I have Monica, and, of course, you have Lupe. What is a true Mexican dish without a little "flavor"? I was thinking some of the guys might appreciate a little bottle of that gourmet sauce you used to talk about, known as "Insane Dave's"? Ricky Sessions liked it, didn't he?

Where can it be found?

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Esther's Galeria. Where I get my paintings framed.


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My wife and her sister Margarita owner of the restaurant Pozolandia on Revolution


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My son is growing up little by little. 2008 started out great with him winning the 2008 Naitonal Silver Gloves. Around this time last year he won the Junior Olympics for the third year in a row. Then the game of life began to deal us sad cards. My wife's grandma pasted away. Then my wife cousin crashes into the ocean (Oceanside) while flying one of those four man planes. My wife close friend goes. Then my dad gets cancer and we end up taking care of him all summer.
The whole summer Mo is sleeping with my dad in order to get him things during the night. We would train in Chula Vista in the afternoon and run at a local lake, in the College Grove area. I say all this to say that during all this drama and saddness, Mo was able to stay focused at the right time and still win the Ringside Boxing tournament in Kansas City for the third year in a row. He had already commited to box in Long Beach this past September and one week prior my dad pasted. Now he didnt look like the greatest but he sucked it up and won the bout. You can see this bout on YouTube. Just type in his name Mighty Mo Orozco.
His inter-strenght amazes me in that he almost puts himself in a semi trance when he performs or boxes. He is beginning his fourth year boxing and currently he is coming off a long neeed vacation of three months. He has had 66 bouts in that time and has won 60. He last fought in December in Mexicali and won. Of his six losses, he has defeated four of those guys in rematches, some 2 and 3 times. Those other two loses were to guy 24 months older and more mature. We will get them when they meet after 17 and the strenght in more on the same level. I have Mo going to a privite conditioning coach to work on his strenght. Medicine ball throwing, pushing ups, hopping, sprints, light weights, and the stuff I never did. LOL
He is in a pre-teen age but I keep a tight rope on him so he does not hang himself with bad decisions. He is set to box May 15th in Long Beach, if the California State Athletic Commission allows amatuer boxing to continue. If your not informed, the State forced all shows to cease due to some greedy people up north who used the kids to make a buck and now all hell as broke due to this. There you have the lastest on Mo. Below is a link to a documentary on him a little over a year ago.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJlArWxqBB4
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Danny "Little Red" Lopez
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The Kid wrote:Rog,

I fought under the name of Rudy Ramirez. I go by Rudy Orozco now but that another story for another day. Ruben Castillo, Maunel Lujan use to spar all the time. I hung out with Manuel's brother John in high school, San Diego High. I use to train in San Ysidro and my coach was Norman Bumpy Parra, some know him as Buzzsaw from his boxing days. My mom still lives in Encanto, right there by Lemon Grove.

Rudy
What year did you graduate from San Diego High? Rog
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The Kid wrote:My son is growing up little by little. 2008 started out great with him winning the 2008 Naitonal Silver Gloves. Around this time last year he won the Junior Olympics for the third year in a row. Then the game of life began to deal us sad cards. My wife's grandma pasted away. Then my wife cousin crashes into the ocean (Oceanside) while flying one of those four man planes. My wife close friend goes. Then my dad gets cancer and we end up taking care of him all summer.
The whole summer Mo is sleeping with my dad in order to get him things during the night. We would train in Chula Vista in the afternoon and run at a local lake, in the College Grove area. I say all this to say that during all this drama and saddness, Mo was able to stay focused at the right time and still win the Ringside Boxing tournament in Kansas City for the third year in a row. He had already commited to box in Long Beach this past September and one week prior my dad pasted. Now he didnt look like the greatest but he sucked it up and won the bout. You can see this bout on YouTube. Just type in his name Mighty Mo Orozco.
His inter-strenght amazes me in that he almost puts himself in a semi trance when he performs or boxes. He is beginning his fourth year boxing and currently he is coming off a long neeed vacation of three months. He has had 66 bouts in that time and has won 60. He last fought in December in Mexicali and won. Of his six losses, he has defeated four of those guys in rematches, some 2 and 3 times. Those other two loses were to guy 24 months older and more mature. We will get them when they meet after 17 and the strenght in more on the same level. I have Mo going to a privite conditioning coach to work on his strenght. Medicine ball throwing, pushing ups, hopping, sprints, light weights, and the stuff I never did. LOL
He is in a pre-teen age but I keep a tight rope on him so he does not hang himself with bad decisions. He is set to box May 15th in Long Beach, if the California State Athletic Commission allows amatuer boxing to continue. If your not informed, the State forced all shows to cease due to some greedy people up north who used the kids to make a buck and now all hell as broke due to this. There you have the lastest on Mo. Below is a link to a documentary on him a little over a year ago.

The Kid




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJlArWxqBB4
Rudy
Watched the video. Your son looks very sharp. You and your wife,your team,and Moses have your heads on straight. Best of luck. I want to follow your son's career. It must be a thrill for your family. Rog :TU:
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Virgin of Guadalupe Church (downtown TJ)

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The Mercado across from the church downtown

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Anyone hungry for carne asada?
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dagosd2000 wrote:Image

Danny "Little Red" Lopez

Damn, that's another great one, Rog.
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The Kid wrote:My son is growing up little by little. 2008 started out great with him winning the 2008 Naitonal Silver Gloves. Around this time last year he won the Junior Olympics for the third year in a row. Then the game of life began to deal us sad cards. My wife's grandma pasted away. Then my wife cousin crashes into the ocean (Oceanside) while flying one of those four man planes. My wife close friend goes. Then my dad gets cancer and we end up taking care of him all summer.
The whole summer Mo is sleeping with my dad in order to get him things during the night. We would train in Chula Vista in the afternoon and run at a local lake, in the College Grove area. I say all this to say that during all this drama and saddness, Mo was able to stay focused at the right time and still win the Ringside Boxing tournament in Kansas City for the third year in a row. He had already commited to box in Long Beach this past September and one week prior my dad pasted. Now he didnt look like the greatest but he sucked it up and won the bout. You can see this bout on YouTube. Just type in his name Mighty Mo Orozco.
His inter-strenght amazes me in that he almost puts himself in a semi trance when he performs or boxes. He is beginning his fourth year boxing and currently he is coming off a long neeed vacation of three months. He has had 66 bouts in that time and has won 60. He last fought in December in Mexicali and won. Of his six losses, he has defeated four of those guys in rematches, some 2 and 3 times. Those other two loses were to guy 24 months older and more mature. We will get them when they meet after 17 and the strenght in more on the same level. I have Mo going to a privite conditioning coach to work on his strenght. Medicine ball throwing, pushing ups, hopping, sprints, light weights, and the stuff I never did. LOL
He is in a pre-teen age but I keep a tight rope on him so he does not hang himself with bad decisions. He is set to box May 15th in Long Beach, if the California State Athletic Commission allows amatuer boxing to continue. If your not informed, the State forced all shows to cease due to some greedy people up north who used the kids to make a buck and now all hell as broke due to this. There you have the lastest on Mo. Below is a link to a documentary on him a little over a year ago.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJlArWxqBB4

Thanks for the update Rudy. Mo is an amazing young man, and has great parents. As for the State Athletic Commission suspension of Amateur Boxing, I'm aware of it. It seems an 8-year-old was allowed to box at a casino where there were scantilly dressed ring card girls. There was gambling nearby, etc. They don't suspend the promoters, but ALL amateur boxing in the State of Cal. Next month, there is to be a hearing. However, Josie Mejia, had already paid for awards, flyers, deposits, etc. non-refundable stuff for a show today in Bell Gardens. I was going to go and Monica was to shoot photos. Gwen Adair gave me the word, and I had to rell El Gato, who had planned to attend. These Commission guys are lost balls in high grass.


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Roger,

Spent the day reading about your grandfather. Went from a day worker in brooklyn to
one of the most powerful men in Chicago. He lived by the gun, but was liked by many
people. Very generous, and had the largest funeral ever in Chicago.

Have you ever been on Newspaper archives. There was an article in the 1990s
saying you had and who was going to write a book about her father. The articles
made it sound like he was killed over bootleg issues. They were trying to scare
a senator your grandfather was connected to.

enjoyed the reading thanks

ki
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dagosd2000 wrote:Image

Danny "Little Red" Lopez
Rog . . . Once again, you really caught Danny.
We've all known him for years, up close. Very close for me.
That's him :TU:


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The Kid wrote:Rog,

I fought under the name of Rudy Ramirez. I go by Rudy Orozco now but that another story for another day. Ruben Castillo, Maunel Lujan use to spar all the time. I hung out with Manuel's brother John in high school, San Diego High. I use to train in San Ysidro and my coach was Norman Bumpy Parra, some know him as Buzzsaw from his boxing days. My mom still lives in Encanto, right there by Lemon Grove.
Kid, Glad to have you here. We welcome anyone with a true love for boxing. You won't find a better thread anywhere. I'm looking forward to reading about some of your experience.

Kid, In 1976 at the Coliseum I fought a guy by the name of Ignacio "Nacho" Cota. We fought a four round draw. He was a stablemate of Manuel Lujan. Does that name ring a bell?

Randy :TU:
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The Kid wrote:My son is growing up little by little. 2008 started out great with him winning the 2008 Naitonal Silver Gloves. Around this time last year he won the Junior Olympics for the third year in a row. Then the game of life began to deal us sad cards. My wife's grandma pasted away. Then my wife cousin crashes into the ocean (Oceanside) while flying one of those four man planes. My wife close friend goes. Then my dad gets cancer and we end up taking care of him all summer.
The whole summer Mo is sleeping with my dad in order to get him things during the night. We would train in Chula Vista in the afternoon and run at a local lake, in the College Grove area. I say all this to say that during all this drama and saddness, Mo was able to stay focused at the right time and still win the Ringside Boxing tournament in Kansas City for the third year in a row. He had already commited to box in Long Beach this past September and one week prior my dad pasted. Now he didnt look like the greatest but he sucked it up and won the bout. You can see this bout on YouTube. Just type in his name Mighty Mo Orozco.
His inter-strenght amazes me in that he almost puts himself in a semi trance when he performs or boxes. He is beginning his fourth year boxing and currently he is coming off a long neeed vacation of three months. He has had 66 bouts in that time and has won 60. He last fought in December in Mexicali and won. Of his six losses, he has defeated four of those guys in rematches, some 2 and 3 times. Those other two loses were to guy 24 months older and more mature. We will get them when they meet after 17 and the strenght in more on the same level. I have Mo going to a privite conditioning coach to work on his strenght. Medicine ball throwing, pushing ups, hopping, sprints, light weights, and the stuff I never did. LOL
He is in a pre-teen age but I keep a tight rope on him so he does not hang himself with bad decisions. He is set to box May 15th in Long Beach, if the California State Athletic Commission allows amatuer boxing to continue. If your not informed, the State forced all shows to cease due to some greedy people up north who used the kids to make a buck and now all hell as broke due to this. There you have the lastest on Mo. Below is a link to a documentary on him a little over a year ago.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJlArWxqBB4
Rudy, my condolences on your father, mother in law and your wife's cousin. It has been one hell of a year for you and your family. Hang tough!

You have very impressive son Rudy. We'll be watching. Please continue to keep us informed and updated. You sound like a great dad and a great coach, just the kind that's needed to keep boxing moving forward. Best of luck to you and your son.

Randy
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dagosd2000 wrote:Image

Danny "Little Red" Lopez
Damn Rog, you nailed Danny! :bow:
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Virgin of Guadalupe Church (downtown TJ)

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The Mercado across from the church downtown

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Anyone hungry for carne asada?
Carne Asada? I should have been named the Carne Asada Kid.

Randy :lol:
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Thunder . . .

Steve Harpst has a great boxing program going on in Burbank. A state-of-the-art boxer training facility, located on the top floor of the Burbank YMCA. Members can learn to box, experience the best cardio-burn workout in the Valley, and, for some . . . compete in amateur boxing matches.

I'm easily bored, and with film production limited to TV pilots, I'm awaiting a commercial location for a couple weeks next month. I've decided I need to teach somebody how to box. Somebody who really wants to know how. Not just anybody, but somebody who will listen and try. I don't care if they have a fight, or just want to learn. I need to teach somebody from scratch. It's good to stay in practice. You forget what was once so automatic. I need to show somebody how to stand, move, balance, how to JAB! All that, you know. IT's about keeping myself sharp, re-teaching myself, in touch with reality.

Steve comes up to me at the beginning of his class. He's got a kid in his early 20's standing beside him. The kid was about 5'5" and easily 200 pounds. Fat? Maybe a little, but more stocky of build. He looked Armenian, and had one of those short, but powerfully wide statures. You know, the guys who must power their way in and punch inside. He might have had a few unnecessary pounds, but I think he's got the frame to carry most of it. We were introduced and Steve asked me if I'd mind working with, "Thunder". Me mind? That was why I was there.

We shook hands and I got to know him in a way that a teacher must know a student. He had done some wrestling, which isn't a bad thing in this case. I'm not going to teach this man to "float like a butterfly", but he will learn how to box, and hold his hands, and move his head, and how to punch to the body and head, and jab in a way that can out-score a taller man's jab, distancing.

After we worked pads, and I had him punch to see what he did and didn't know, I had a good feeling. He pursued me to work with him, and of course I will. This kid is responsible, owns his own taxi cab, seems reliable. I'm going to have fun with this one.

If he ever were to have a boxing match, or street fight for that matter, he'd surely be the shortest in the contest. But he has a great chance. I'll let you know when we get to the "boxing" phase of training. In a few days, I'm going to toss him in with a bigger heavyweight, and have him box. The big guy knows how to work, and will be a perfect test.

I'll kep you posted on "Thunder" :TU:


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iskigoe wrote:Roger,

Spent the day reading about your grandfather. Went from a day worker in brooklyn to
one of the most powerful men in Chicago. He lived by the gun, but was liked by many
people. Very generous, and had the largest funeral ever in Chicago.

Have you ever been on Newspaper archives. There was an article in the 1990s
saying you had and who was going to write a book about her father. The articles
made it sound like he was killed over bootleg issues. They were trying to scare
a senator your grandfather was connected to.

enjoyed the reading thanks

ki
Kevin
If you get the chance,Curt Johnson's book "Wicked City" gives a detailed description of my grandfather. It's a chronicle of the mob in Chicago. Roger Ebert wrote a nice preface.My aunt Jeanette(my dad's sister) was a great contributor to the book.

Another book called "Double Cross"(a biography of Sam Giancana written by his nephew Chuckie) also gives great detail to Diamond Joe. However the story of Sam Giancana is unlikely. Too bad. The exaggerations told by Giancana's nephew about his uncle however do not tarnish the episodes written about my grandfather. Rog.
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dagosd2000 wrote:
iskigoe wrote:Roger,

Spent the day reading about your grandfather. Went from a day worker in brooklyn to
one of the most powerful men in Chicago. He lived by the gun, but was liked by many
people. Very generous, and had the largest funeral ever in Chicago.

Have you ever been on Newspaper archives. There was an article in the 1990s
saying you had and who was going to write a book about her father. The articles
made it sound like he was killed over bootleg issues. They were trying to scare
a senator your grandfather was connected to.

enjoyed the reading thanks

ki
Kevin
If you get the chance,Curt Johnson's book "Wicked City" gives a detailed description of my grandfather. It's a chronicle of the mob in Chicago. Roger Ebert wrote a nice preface.My aunt Jeanette(my dad's sister) was a great contributor to the book.

Another book called "Double Cross"(a biography of Sam Giancana written by his nephew Chuckie) also gives great detail to Diamond Joe. However the story of Sam Giancana is unlikely. Too bad. The exaggerations told by Giancana's nephew about his uncle however do not tarnish the episodes written about my grandfather. Rog.
Rog, are either of those books still in publication?
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Randyman wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:
iskigoe wrote:Roger,

Spent the day reading about your grandfather. Went from a day worker in brooklyn to
one of the most powerful men in Chicago. He lived by the gun, but was liked by many
people. Very generous, and had the largest funeral ever in Chicago.

Have you ever been on Newspaper archives. There was an article in the 1990s
saying you had and who was going to write a book about her father. The articles
made it sound like he was killed over bootleg issues. They were trying to scare
a senator your grandfather was connected to.

enjoyed the reading thanks

ki
Kevin
If you get the chance,Curt Johnson's book "Wicked City" gives a detailed description of my grandfather. It's a chronicle of the mob in Chicago. Roger Ebert wrote a nice preface.My aunt Jeanette(my dad's sister) was a great contributor to the book.

Another book called "Double Cross"(a biography of Sam Giancana written by his nephew Chuckie) also gives great detail to Diamond Joe. However the story of Sam Giancana is unlikely. Too bad. The exaggerations told by Giancana's nephew about his uncle however do not tarnish the episodes written about my grandfather. Rog.
Rog, are either of those books still in publication?

Randy
I doubt it. What I do is go to Amazon.com books and type in the title.They should have them new and used. Rog
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HE CALLS MY WIFE DONA

Habits are hard to break in Mexico. If it works,keep going with it. Loyalty's a factor too. The above photo is of my wife and
Marcos the owner of the carniceria at the mercado "Piojito" across from the Virgin of Guadalupe Church on 2nd Street in Tijuana. I've been married 40 years. She's been taking me there to buy cuts of meat. I don't know how long she was going there before that,but that's the only place she goes.

Marcos has aged well.He's 83 now. He likes coming to work. His son does most of the butchering now. I remember Marcos's grand daughters working there. When they got married they left. But there's plenty of family to go around. No shortage of help there.

Marcos always wears three or four shirts under a heavy coat. A freezer is cold even in Mexico. The carniceria hasn't changed any that I can see. He sells chiles and canned goods. Out front he's got crates of balcala. Some blocks of cheese. He's always got that cap on top of his head.

I remember a while back he came down with pneumonia. He rested until he was ready to come back without discomfort. When his strength had returned. It was a 3 month recuperation period,but I remember when he came back. He was happy to be working again.

I'm not strong about shopping with my wife. She gets her flour tortillas at one place. Her chiles at another. Her tomatos somewhere else. But the meat is bought from Marco.I like going there. Everyone in his family who works there recognizes me. Sometimes I like to go and watch all the hustle and bustle of El Piojito. As crowded as it gets the vendors work very meticously. Marcos for example slices through the sides of meat very slowly with his stainless steel knives. Wraps the cuts in oil paper and fastens the ends of the paper with Scotch tape.

When my wife approaches Marcos's carniceria,his employees smile. They are happy to see her.
"Buenos tardes Dona. Pasale adelante por favor."
Dona,the ultimate expression of respect.

They always put my wife at the head of the line. Marcos will either cut what she wants or he'll supervise what's going on. He knows what my wife wants . Her tastes is something he's known for over 40 years. They chat as her order is prepared. Who got married. Who died. What are the latest aches and pains. Time goes slowly amongst the crowd in the Piojito.
It's the way it should be.

After double bagging the wrapped meat for the night's carne asada extavaganza,we said "Adios". Oh I forgot to give a plug to Marcos's carniceria. The name, "La Dona".
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