Hap or FrankDongee wrote:Frank and Rog:
Of course you are both right. Back in my day we often referred to some fellows as "unseen wonders". This fellow intrigues me because of other factors. His globe-trotting, for example, and of course, the motorcycle injury and its aftermath. And he may be the first ever South American sports star (other than baseball players) to choose Japan for his domicile. Interesting.
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Hap...I would like to see him fight some first class fighter, so far there is no name on his record that jumps out at you where you can say "Yeah, he fought and beat a good fighter".Dongee wrote:Frank and Rog:
Of course you are both right. Back in my day we often referred to some fellows as "unseen wonders". This fellow intrigues me because of other factors. His globe-trotting, for example, and of course, the motorcycle injury and its aftermath. And he may be the first ever South American sports star (other than baseball players) to choose Japan for his domicile. Interesting.
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Rene might have, not sure though.dagosd2000 wrote:Hap or FrankDongee wrote:Frank and Rog:
Of course you are both right. Back in my day we often referred to some fellows as "unseen wonders". This fellow intrigues me because of other factors. His globe-trotting, for example, and of course, the motorcycle injury and its aftermath. And he may be the first ever South American sports star (other than baseball players) to choose Japan for his domicile. Interesting.
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Didn't one of the Arredondos wind up living in Japan?
Rog, you ever had New Mexico Chiles? we should have Randy get us some.dagosd2000 wrote:
My wife in her element. Shopping for chiles in Tijuana
kikibalt wrote:Rog, you ever had New Mexico Chiles? we should have Randy get us some.dagosd2000 wrote:
My wife in her element. Shopping for chiles in Tijuana
Remember the old time barber shops that had a shoe shine stand?, I used to go "Jimmy's Scissor Cut" get a hair cut (Trim) and a shoe shine every two week, then Jimmy died...dagosd2000 wrote:
La Bola,Tijuana
Frankkikibalt wrote:Remember the old time barber shops that had a shoe shine stand?, I used to go "Jimmy's Scissor Cut" get a hair cut (Trim) and a shoe shine every two week, then Jimmy died...dagosd2000 wrote:
La Bola,Tijuana
Frankkikibalt wrote:By Robert Morales @ BS.com
It was 3:15 p.m. Wednesday on the West Coast. The phone rang and it was longtime publicist Bill Caplan calling from M.D. Anderson Cancer Center in Houston. Seconds later, Caplan handed the phone over to former junior lightweight world champion Genaro "Chicanito" Hernandez, who for the past six months has been battling rhabdomyosarcoma, a rare soft-tissue cancer.
To say Hernandez had good news would be an understatement of gargantuan proportions.
"I have no more tumor in my sinus area," said Hernandez, who spoke in whispered tones because the radiation treatments damaged his vocal chords. "The doctor today told me that the cancer seems to have been defeated. I got the final result 15 minutes ago. The only thing they're worried about is that I am still weighing only about 120 pounds and I that I have to continue the chemotherapy treatments."
BS.com spoke to Hernandez for about 10 minutes, during which time he briefly cried.
"Oh, wow, tears of joy," said Hernandez, when asked his first thoughts when his doctor gave him the good news. "I was thinking about all the support, the people that have prayed for me. It was God's will for me to survive what at one point was a deadly disease.
"They think it's completely gone. But like anything, there could always be one little cell that they didn't catch. But right now, the cancer is defeated."
Funny. Anytime anyone mentions Randy,I think of food.kikibalt wrote:Rog,
We have to talk to Randy on that New Mexico chile.
Rog,dagosd2000 wrote:Frankkikibalt wrote:Remember the old time barber shops that had a shoe shine stand?, I used to go "Jimmy's Scissor Cut" get a hair cut (Trim) and a shoe shine every two week, then Jimmy died...dagosd2000 wrote:
La Bola,Tijuana
I still like going South Of The Border for a haircut. They don't use the straight razor in California to trim or shave,. Don't want any cuts. Someone might get AIDS. Gringo paranoia.
Had a thing where I didn't want a woman barber. Now I prefer them. They're gentle and caring. The men barbers are still good,but for the life of me,when a woman is cutting my hair I almost fall asleep in the chair.
As for the shoe shine. Still plenty in TJ.
You know with the economy bad down there too,the lines at the border aren't as long as before. I don't care what anyone says,I relax better down there.
Viva Genero Hernandezkikibalt wrote:By Robert Morales @ BS.com
It was 3:15 p.m. Wednesday on the West Coast. The phone rang and it was longtime publicist Bill Caplan calling from M.D. Anderson Cancer Center in Houston. Seconds later, Caplan handed the phone over to former junior lightweight world champion Genaro "Chicanito" Hernandez, who for the past six months has been battling rhabdomyosarcoma, a rare soft-tissue cancer.
To say Hernandez had good news would be an understatement of gargantuan proportions.
"I have no more tumor in my sinus area," said Hernandez, who spoke in whispered tones because the radiation treatments damaged his vocal chords. "The doctor today told me that the cancer seems to have been defeated. I got the final result 15 minutes ago. The only thing they're worried about is that I am still weighing only about 120 pounds and I that I have to continue the chemotherapy treatments."
BS.com spoke to Hernandez for about 10 minutes, during which time he briefly cried.
"Oh, wow, tears of joy," said Hernandez, when asked his first thoughts when his doctor gave him the good news. "I was thinking about all the support, the people that have prayed for me. It was God's will for me to survive what at one point was a deadly disease.
"They think it's completely gone. But like anything, there could always be one little cell that they didn't catch. But right now, the cancer is defeated."
Believe me, Team Khan will never challenge Valero (if he wins).kikibalt wrote:Edwin Valero the KO artist
April 1, 2009 by Edgar Gonzalez
Kevin lole from Yahoo sports wrote an awesome piece on Valero.
When you’ve knocked out every man who’s dared to climb between the ropes and fight you, you get used to seeing opponents cower. You get used to the track meet. You recognize the look of fear.
Edwin Valero has seen the look so many times, he probably can’t count them. He’s a puncher of increasing renown, who has knocked out all 24 men he’s faced, including 19 in the first round. He’s become something of a boxing Paul Bunyan, a mythological figure whose power gets more extraordinary with every retelling.
Valero’s boxing skills, though, have been rudimentary at best. He’s never been mistaken for Floyd Mayweather Jr. in the ring, let alone for Willie Pep. A defensive wizard he is not.
And Valero has never really had to face serious fire in return. Most of the men he’s faced have been ducking for cover not long after the opening bell.
He’s almost guaranteed to get some fire back on Saturday, however, when he meets veteran Antonio Pitalua for the vacant WBC lightweight title on a Golden Boy Promotions pay-per-view card at the Frank Erwin Center in Austin, Texas.
Pitalua is 39 and other than for the dinner bell, hasn’t run once in his life. He’ll be off his stool and in Valero’s face about, oh, two seconds after the opening bell.
When he does that is when Valero’s abilities will come into much clearer focus.
Valero is 27 and harbors the notion that he’s the guy who will be able to knock off Manny Pacquiao. Despite the glittering record, though, he hasn’t proven he deserves it.
Pitalua is 46-3 with 40 knockouts and relishes a slugfest. If Valero can withstand the opening onslaught and get himself into the middle portion of the fight, he should roll to victory and be fine.
The problem, though, is that there have been many great punchers in the game who haven’t been able to take much more than a jab themselves. And if you can’t take a punch, you can’t compete with the likes of Pacquiao.
“I know my capacities,” Pitalua said on a recent teleconference. “I can take a punch. I fought my entire career - most of my career - in Mexico. Edwin knows what Mexican fighters bring to the table and I’ve fought all tough fighters. I want to know who has he fought who’s tough? Yes, he can punch, but can he take a punch? And on April 4 we’ll see because I can punch.”
Valero professes respect for Pitalua, who knocked out Jose Armando Santa Cruz in six rounds in his last outing, but insists he’s not concerned by the threat Pitalua brings.
Valero, who is now trained by one-time Oscar De La Hoya trainer Robert Alcazar, isn’t expecting his 25th professional fight to be any different from his first 24. If he can handle a guy who is not afraid of him and who will be in his face trying to knock him out, rather than facing someone afraid of his power and looking to survive, he should collect knockout No. 25 and move toward the kind of fight he’s dreaming of landing.
There’s still a lot that is not known about Valero, though.
“I know what I can do, and I know what Pitalua brings,” Valero said. “And he’s a fighter that on the night of the fight he’s going to roll; he’s going to fall. He’s too slow for me. I’m too fast, I’m too strong for him, and I want to fight the best. He’s a good fighter, but I’m up for bigger and better things.”
What could be next if he gets past Pitalua is a bout with Amir Khan, who recently with the aid of a massive cut stopped Marco Antonio Barrera in the fifth round. But Valero’s record makes him a possible opponent for guys like Pacquiao and Juan Manuel Marquez.
Before he gets those fights, though, he’ll need further medical clearance in the U.S. He suffered a head injury in a 2001 motorcycle accident that caused him to be placed on medical suspension in New York.
All other U.S. jurisdictions honored that suspension until he was examined independently and Texas officials made the call to license him. His new promoter, Top Rank, is soon going to begin the process of getting him licensed in other venues.
“Every fighter that steps in the ring runs a risk of being injured or being hurt,” Valero said. “And I am in no more risk than any other fighter. You know, because of the procedure, because of the surgery that I had - I want to clarify, it was an accident that I had many years ago on a motorcycle. It was very minor [and] it wasn’t what it has been played out to be. It was outside of my brain; it wasn’t that they took my brain out, washed it and put it back in. It was nothing like that.
“It was a vein that erupted and they took care of it. I’ve been to doctors all over the world. I’ve been to Argentina, I’ve been to Panama, I’ve been to Venezuela. I have seen all the best doctors in America. I actually saw the doctor that performed the surgery on Marco Antonio Barrera, Dr. Madrazo, and they’ve all told me the same that I’m clear to fight; that I’m OK; that I don’t run any more risks than any other fighter.”
The risk he faces on Saturday isn’t a medical one; it’s an age-old question that has dimmed many stars throughout the years: Can he take it nearly as well as he can give it?
If he can, a star may be born on Saturday in the shadow of the Texas state capitol.
By Kevin lole from Yahoo sports
Amir Khan . . .bennie wrote:Believe me, Team Khan will never challenge Valero (if he wins).kikibalt wrote:Edwin Valero the KO artist
April 1, 2009 by Edgar Gonzalez
Kevin lole from Yahoo sports wrote an awesome piece on Valero.
When you’ve knocked out every man who’s dared to climb between the ropes and fight you, you get used to seeing opponents cower. You get used to the track meet. You recognize the look of fear.
Edwin Valero has seen the look so many times, he probably can’t count them. He’s a puncher of increasing renown, who has knocked out all 24 men he’s faced, including 19 in the first round. He’s become something of a boxing Paul Bunyan, a mythological figure whose power gets more extraordinary with every retelling.
Valero’s boxing skills, though, have been rudimentary at best. He’s never been mistaken for Floyd Mayweather Jr. in the ring, let alone for Willie Pep. A defensive wizard he is not.
And Valero has never really had to face serious fire in return. Most of the men he’s faced have been ducking for cover not long after the opening bell.
He’s almost guaranteed to get some fire back on Saturday, however, when he meets veteran Antonio Pitalua for the vacant WBC lightweight title on a Golden Boy Promotions pay-per-view card at the Frank Erwin Center in Austin, Texas.
Pitalua is 39 and other than for the dinner bell, hasn’t run once in his life. He’ll be off his stool and in Valero’s face about, oh, two seconds after the opening bell.
When he does that is when Valero’s abilities will come into much clearer focus.
Valero is 27 and harbors the notion that he’s the guy who will be able to knock off Manny Pacquiao. Despite the glittering record, though, he hasn’t proven he deserves it.
Pitalua is 46-3 with 40 knockouts and relishes a slugfest. If Valero can withstand the opening onslaught and get himself into the middle portion of the fight, he should roll to victory and be fine.
The problem, though, is that there have been many great punchers in the game who haven’t been able to take much more than a jab themselves. And if you can’t take a punch, you can’t compete with the likes of Pacquiao.
“I know my capacities,” Pitalua said on a recent teleconference. “I can take a punch. I fought my entire career - most of my career - in Mexico. Edwin knows what Mexican fighters bring to the table and I’ve fought all tough fighters. I want to know who has he fought who’s tough? Yes, he can punch, but can he take a punch? And on April 4 we’ll see because I can punch.”
Valero professes respect for Pitalua, who knocked out Jose Armando Santa Cruz in six rounds in his last outing, but insists he’s not concerned by the threat Pitalua brings.
Valero, who is now trained by one-time Oscar De La Hoya trainer Robert Alcazar, isn’t expecting his 25th professional fight to be any different from his first 24. If he can handle a guy who is not afraid of him and who will be in his face trying to knock him out, rather than facing someone afraid of his power and looking to survive, he should collect knockout No. 25 and move toward the kind of fight he’s dreaming of landing.
There’s still a lot that is not known about Valero, though.
“I know what I can do, and I know what Pitalua brings,” Valero said. “And he’s a fighter that on the night of the fight he’s going to roll; he’s going to fall. He’s too slow for me. I’m too fast, I’m too strong for him, and I want to fight the best. He’s a good fighter, but I’m up for bigger and better things.”
What could be next if he gets past Pitalua is a bout with Amir Khan, who recently with the aid of a massive cut stopped Marco Antonio Barrera in the fifth round. But Valero’s record makes him a possible opponent for guys like Pacquiao and Juan Manuel Marquez.
Before he gets those fights, though, he’ll need further medical clearance in the U.S. He suffered a head injury in a 2001 motorcycle accident that caused him to be placed on medical suspension in New York.
All other U.S. jurisdictions honored that suspension until he was examined independently and Texas officials made the call to license him. His new promoter, Top Rank, is soon going to begin the process of getting him licensed in other venues.
“Every fighter that steps in the ring runs a risk of being injured or being hurt,” Valero said. “And I am in no more risk than any other fighter. You know, because of the procedure, because of the surgery that I had - I want to clarify, it was an accident that I had many years ago on a motorcycle. It was very minor [and] it wasn’t what it has been played out to be. It was outside of my brain; it wasn’t that they took my brain out, washed it and put it back in. It was nothing like that.
“It was a vein that erupted and they took care of it. I’ve been to doctors all over the world. I’ve been to Argentina, I’ve been to Panama, I’ve been to Venezuela. I have seen all the best doctors in America. I actually saw the doctor that performed the surgery on Marco Antonio Barrera, Dr. Madrazo, and they’ve all told me the same that I’m clear to fight; that I’m OK; that I don’t run any more risks than any other fighter.”
The risk he faces on Saturday isn’t a medical one; it’s an age-old question that has dimmed many stars throughout the years: Can he take it nearly as well as he can give it?
If he can, a star may be born on Saturday in the shadow of the Texas state capitol.
By Kevin lole from Yahoo sports
kikibalt wrote:Edwin Valero
From Boxrec Boxing Encyclopaedia
Career Record: click
Alias: El Inca / Dinamita
Nationality: Venezuela
Birthplace: Bolero Alto, Merida, Venezuela
Hometown: Las Vegas, Nevada, USA
Born: 1981-12-03
Stance: Southpaw
Height: 5′ 6″
Reach: 175
Biography
Edwin "Dynamite" Valero started boxing at around age 12, compiling a reported amateur record of 86-6 with 57 kayos. (But, after his second pro fight Valero himself claimed just 45 kayos: "Soy estilista y tambi?n pego duro. En amateur gan? 86 peleas y propin? 45 nocauts".) He was Venezuelan amateur champion three years running, as well as Central and South American champion (beating Francisco Bojado, July 13, 2000).
Prior to turning pro, on February 5, 2001, Valero was in a severe motorcycle accident, in which he fractured his skull, forcing surgery to remove a blood clot.
Valero claims that his Venezuelan doctor cleared him to fight on January 17, 2002 and he turned pro that July with a first-round kayo. After posting a record of 11-0 (11 first round knockouts) in the United States, Valero ran into trouble.
In January 2004, he failed an MRI in New York and thus was denied a licesnse, effectively banning him from fighting in the United States. On March 19, 2008, Texas granted him a license.
In 2006, Valero scored his 17th consecutive first-round win, eclipsing the undocumented 100-year-old record established by Young Otto in 1906, who reportedly won 16 straight boxing matches by first round knockout. "In my matches, I focus on winning, but I'm not going for knockouts," said Valero. In March 2006, Valero's streak was snapped in his 19th bout when he stopped his foe in the second. Since that time, Tyrone Brunson broke Valero's record by scoring 19 straight first-round wins.
Edwin Valero has decided to make Japan his base of operations, and lives in Tokyo with his wife and children.
On September 4, 2008, Valero gave up his WBA super featherweight title and announced he was moving up to lightweight.
Here he is, vs Genaro Trazancos, Valero is what I thought, a crude, wide open fighter without no fineness what so ever.Chuck1052 wrote:Looking at a tape of Edwin Valero in action, I feel that he is a bit too crude. There are fans who talk about matching Valero with Humberto Soto, but it is my opinion that he needs to work on his skills and get more seasoning before accepting such a bout.
- Chuck Johnston
