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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 03 Apr 2009, 13:05
by raylawpc
kikibalt wrote:
raylawpc wrote:
Randyman wrote: Tom, if it's made right you are in for a treat. Menudo is somewhat of an acquired taste. Enjoy!!

Randy :TU:
Apparently its made in different ways, depending on where you are from in Mexico. One of the ladies asked me if I wanted "red" menudo or "white" menudo. The sause in the photos posted by Frank and Roger looks read, so I said "red."
"RED"
I did find out that "menudo" can have two meanings. When I brought it up with my students, I don't remember exactly how I asked, but one of the ladies looked at me kind of funny and said "You mean soup?" I said yes, and we started talking about you guys and how much you like menudo. (They really like it too!)

Because of the funny look my student gave me and her response to my inquiry, I asked if menudo was a word for anything else in Spanish. I learned men sometimes call a fat woman's stomach her "menudo." :oo :o :oo :o :oo :o :oo

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 03 Apr 2009, 13:55
by Dongee
Tom:

Menudo also means "slight" or "slightly". So there is an old Mexican joke that goes like this:

Esta lloviendo menudo. It is raining slightly.

The punchline: Ojala no me caiga un hueso. I hope I'm not hit by a bone.

Cornball, and very old.

hap navarro

Re:

Posted: 03 Apr 2009, 14:39
by Trainer Monkey
kikibalt wrote:
Collins2000 wrote:Let's leave that fekkin eejit Larry Merchant off this thread, lads.

Those are some great photos Mr Baltazar has posted.

If you go to CBZ there are a lot more from when he was inducted by the California boxing community.

I enjoyed viewing them.
Collins,

You ratted me out...LOL!! :lol:
Sir,they are some great pics

Re: Re:

Posted: 03 Apr 2009, 15:30
by kikibalt
Trainer Monkey wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
Collins2000 wrote:Let's leave that fekkin eejit Larry Merchant off this thread, lads.

Those are some great photos Mr Baltazar has posted.

If you go to CBZ there are a lot more from when he was inducted by the California boxing community.

I enjoyed viewing them.
Collins,

You ratted me out...LOL!! :lol:
Sir,they are some great pics
Thanks, T.M.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 03 Apr 2009, 18:50
by kikibalt
Exclusive: Genaro’s Beatdown Against Cancer!
April 3, 2009 by Michele Chong

Now in remission “Chicanito” speaks of his “angel in disguise” Bob Arum!
Genaro “Chicanito” Hernandez faced his most deadly foe ever and has come out of the battle victorious! The last six months have been an emotional roller coaster for the former World Boxing Council (WBC) Champion: At the beginning of October, he first heard the devastating diagnosis of fourth-stage rhabdomyosarcoma, a rare form of cancer usually found in children. At the start of December, he began chemotherapy and radiation treatments and lost his strength, his hair and thirty pounds in the process. Then on the first day of April, he received a new prognosis–his cancer is in remission!

The former two-time Junior Lightweight World Champ (38-2-1, 17 KOs) already had the tools he needed to fight cancer: heart, determination, strength, and the will to succeed that he learned while in the ring. Mix in a positive attitude, strong faith, inspiration, encouragement and motivation and it’s no wonder why the cancer was defeated.

There was even an unexpected and unlikely “angel” who came to his side–Bob Arum, Top Rank President. Both the WBC and Arum have been instrumental in their aid to the former boxer. A bit ironic considering that two of his most controversial fights (against Oscar De La Hoya and Azumah Nelson) involved the boxing organization and the veteran promoter. But boxing is unlike any other sport, and when one of our own is down everyone unites to help out in any which way they can.
Hernandez was in Houston, Texas (where a cancer research center is located) with his wife, Liliana. The couple reside in Mission Viejo, California with their two children, Amanda and Steven. ”Chicanito” turns 43 next month and there’s no doubt that it will be an extra special birthday with his family.

In this conversation that took place last night, “Chicanito” talks openly about what he’s experienced the last few months. He speaks in a raspy voice since the medical treatments have affected his vocal chords. But when he laughs, it registers so heartily and so loudly that it takes me by surprise when I first hear him chuckle.

And if Genaro wants to start a new career, he should try stand-up comedy! Obviously overjoyed with the doctors’ news about the remission, he was in a jovial mood. Still hoarse and somewhat weakened by the medical treatments endured, he can now kid around about losing some of his hair (but not ALL of it, he points out!) and losing weight (comparing himself to a plucked chicken!). He jokes a lot in his humble self deprecating humor that made him a fan favorite. “Chicanito” may have lost his hair along with a temporary weight loss, but he has also gained a new start in life, an even higher appreciation for everything he has, and the golden opportunity to now reach out and help others.

Question: Hi Genaro. Tell me about the good news you received.

Answer: The doctors gave me the news at 3:15 p.m. yesterday that my cancer is in remission. I have no cancer now–that’s their opinion. Now I will celebrate “April Fool’s Day” every year! My birthday is May 10, but now I get to celebrate twice a year–April 1st and May 10th!

Q: That’s great! You must have been overwhelmed when you heard this. And how are Liliana and the kids doing?

A: When we got the news, we fell down in tears of joy. You don’t know how I feel. The kids are happy, they were so happy when we told them.

Q: Are you still at the treatment center?

A: Yes, I’m in Texas right now with my wife and we’re coming back tomorrow. This is my second trip to Texas and each visit lasted a week.

Q: What’s next for you in regards to further treatments?

A: I’m only done with radiation. I have 27 more weeks for chemo. That’s just to prevent whatever cells or what’s left in my body, what they can’t see or what didn’t get caught already, they’re going to kill it if there’s any bit of cancer in any cell. We have billions and billions of cells. If there’s one cell that the scans or the MRI didn’t see, they just want to make sure that it doesn’t escape.

Q: I noticed your voice is getting stronger since the last time we spoke. Just let me know if there’s any discomfort when you talk.

A: No, it doesn’t hurt, I’m just going into my second round or third round now. I feel that my voice is coming back. That’s the least of my problems. (Chuckles).

Q: Are you looking to get back into commentating soon? The fans would love to see you out there!

A: Yes! I will be at the Hatton-Pacquiao fight. I would like to thank Top Rank and HBO. They couldn’t use me for a while because of my illness but now HBO has hired me to do the Pacquiao-Hatton fight on May 2nd. They asked and I said yes so I’ll be commentating for their HBO International feed.

Q: Your thoughts on the fight?

A: It will be awesome. It’s definitely gonna be a good battle, they prepared them very well. For Hatton, it’s an opportunity to show his people and the whole world that he can beat the best pound-for-pound fighter. For Pacquiao, he can show who he is; he is capable of being the best and can show the world that.

Q: Now that you’re in remission, I’m sure more good things are coming your way. A: They already have! Everything good started when people found out I had cancer. The best thing is that there are true angels out there!

Q: Who were your angels during this time?

A: Bob Arum! People don’t realize this, this side of the man–he’s an “angel in disguise”! He did a real good deed. Here’s a man that didn’t have to do what he did. I don’t know how to reach out to him, but if I could I would hug him all day. He’s got a good kind heart. I appreciate him; he’s an angel!

Q: How did he show his support?

A: He decided to foot the bill, he has given me first-class service and sent me to this cancer research center in Texas. Mr. Arum took me to the best, the best of the best. A couple that I met at the Darchinyan fight (Mr. and Mrs. Parks) arranged everything for me. Everything they did was on target. I did not have to waste time waiting one or two hours at the hospital like I had been.

Q: Were you close friends with Bob Arum before your diagnosis?

A: I had been working for Top Rank for a while and I honestly believe that who I am touched everyone’s heart at Top Rank while I fought this deadly disease. I’ve battled a life-threatening disease. It’s one step more in facing death than anyone’s had to fight. But I’m not the only one to do that and from the beginning, I’ve thanked everyone and appreciated all the support.

Q: The boxing community rallied behind you when they heard of the cancer. I know you’d like to say thank you to a few people…

A: I want to thank EVERYONE: the press, the fans, Bob Arum, the WBC and the WBCares. I will represent the WBC and WBCares to the highest way I can, I would fly to Mexico if they needed me!

Q: You mentioned to me that you’re going to use the money received from fundraisers to try and help others.

A: Definitely. The money that was given to me from all the charity events I’m now using to help others. There was a family in debt (after one of the spouses passed away) that I helped out financially. I’m also going to The Childrens Hospital of L.A., I want to live up to the word that I promised them. I want to support these children, go out and give them a laugh or a smile. These children are being forgotten. So on behalf of the WBC, I want to go out there and represent the professional fighters and also my family. I promised God that I would go and represent the WBC, the boxing industry and go back and give gifts to them.

Q: People may not know that even before your cancer, you were always giving your time to charities so it doesn’t surprise me that you will continue to reach out to others.

A: It’s not me, it’s everybody. God is the one that’s putting it in me and I’m opening up my heart on behalf of everyone. I am not being selfish–please don’t think I’m doing it all alone, please don’t say it’s just me–it’s ALL of us: the WBC, Top Rank, the fighters, the fight fans, the press. It’s not just me, call it the “support group of Genaro Hernandez” since I don’t have my own organization. But you could say this is for all of us. Sometimes people who take support from others don’t do what I am hoping to do, to start a trend. And set a trend–to send appreciation to everyone to live life again. It’s from all the support, everyone helped out any which way they could.

Q: How do you stay so positive through everything, the ups and downs of your life and career?

A: One thing that nipped me in my butt was the fight against Oscar (De La Hoya). But we learn from our mistakes. I took a heavy loss, I may have lost millions. Then when I fought Azumah Nelson, they called me a quitter, they turned their backs on me. But people like you never gave up on me.

Q: Do you regret anything that happened in those fights?

A: We move on, we don’t look back, I don’t regret anything. It paid off at the end of the road, I’ve got a better life than Oscar or anyone else can tell you. I’ve got a beautiful family that supports me–money cannot buy that! Money creates a lot of problems, it creates a lot of stress. People can be around you just because of the money. I’m happy and proud of who I am. I believe I could be an inspiration to kids in poverty, the things I had to do when I was a kid to to become a World Champion. I’m proud of what I accomplished people love who I truly am, the person I am in front of you.

Q: You’ve been through so much, what do you think helped you the most?

A: I think taking the right precautions, the right diagnosis and the right treatment helped me. I only changed the way I ate because of the treatment.

Q: What would you tell others suffering from cancer?

A: I want to tell everyone that they can defeat any illness. I prayed to God every day that everybody would be in good health and that they never have to go through an illness.

Q: I have a friend going through chemo right now, she just shaved her head. What advice can you give to people whose friends or family members are going through cancer? Sometimes we don’t know what to say or what to do to really help…

A: What you do is that you tell friend that you’re there for her, that you’re supporting her. With shaving the head, that’s everyone’s own choice. When my hair was falling out, I never wanted to see myself bald but I thought if God wants me bald, then it’ll happen. Clumps fell out, I was disappointed but I didn’t get depressed, I just thought “It’s God’s will.” So I never shaved it and it became a little mohawk! (Laughs). Now I don’t worry about a bad hair day or shampooing my hair. I could put a beanie on and I’m looking good! (He jokes and laughs).

Q: Now that you’re in remission, you will hopefully gain the weight back.

A: Actually I was doing very well and then last week on Wednesday I had treatment that knocked me on my feet for four days. I ate no solid food and lost weight. Right now I am 121 SOLID pounds! (He chuckles again). I look like a rotisserie chicken wing with no meat!

Q: I’m glad you have always stayed upbeat, and now you’re even able to laugh a little about your condition.

A: That’s one thing you should NOT lose–the laughter, the will, the smile…I get a laugh out of everything!

Q: Genaro, as always, good to talk to you and please tell Liliana I said hello. Again, so glad to hear of your remission!

A: Okay, I will, we’re going to go have dinner right now. Thanks again to you and everyone for all their support! Remission. That had to have been the most wonderful word that “Chicanito” had ever heard and the best victory of all. Brave and courageous inside the ropes, he was victorious against Azumah Nelson, Jorge Paez and Carlos “Famoso” Hernandez among others. Used to having his hand raised in victory, cancer was the one fight that mattered the most. Through his boxing career, he captured everyone’s attention. So while facing his toughest opponent ever, the boxing community came together in support.

His boxing family will always be there for him.

The champ–against all odds once again–has now come full circle with the news about his remission. Way to go, “Chicanito”!

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 03 Apr 2009, 21:45
by kikibalt
Edwin Valero finally gets (title) fight in U.S.

Edwin Valero (24-0, 24 knockouts) hasn't fought in the U.S. since 2003, but he'll step into a ring in Austin, Texas, on Saturday night in a major return bout, trying to defeat Colombia's Antonio Pitalua (46-3, 40 KOs) for the vacant World Boxing Council lightweight title.

The "Lightweight Lightning" card, which also includes lightweight bouts between Michael Katsidis and Jesus Chavez and California's Vicente Escobedo and respected veteran Carlos Hernandez, is a $39.95 pay-per-view show.

Both Valero and Pitalua weighed in at or just under the 135-pound limit on Friday, the last obstacle Valero needed to clear for his first U.S. fight since an Irvine Marriott card.

Valero, formerly managed by Oscar De La Hoya's father, Joel, was supposed to fight in New York after the Irvine bout but a medical exam revealed a hole in his skull, said former promoter Richard Schaefer. Valero's boxing license was revoked and he fought the next 15 bouts in destinations such as Japan, Venezuela, Panama and Mexico.

"He was in a motorcycle accident as a kid in Venezuela and fractured his skull; the hole is in the back of his head," said Schaefer, who noted that experts like Nevada's Dr. Margaret Goodman objected to Valero fighting.

"He has gone through extensive testing, and now Texas has cleared him," said Schaefer. "Texas obviously feels they've done enough due diligence to keep him safe. I know others in the states feel quite different."

Valero, however, is a devastating puncher, scoring first-round knockouts in his first 18 fights.

He's now fighting for the title vacated by Manny Pacquiao.

-- Lance Pugmire

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 03 Apr 2009, 23:34
by dagosd2000
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Frank,Randy
My wife went to TJ again and got a bunch chiles. See any of those New Mexico chiles in that pile ?Rog

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 03 Apr 2009, 23:38
by Wildhawke11
kikibalt wrote:Edwin Valero finally gets (title) fight in U.S.

Edwin Valero (24-0, 24 knockouts) hasn't fought in the U.S. since 2003, but he'll step into a ring in Austin, Texas, on Saturday night in a major return bout, trying to defeat Colombia's Antonio Pitalua (46-3, 40 KOs) for the vacant World Boxing Council lightweight title.

The "Lightweight Lightning" card, which also includes lightweight bouts between Michael Katsidis and Jesus Chavez and California's Vicente Escobedo and respected veteran Carlos Hernandez, is a $39.95 pay-per-view show.

Both Valero and Pitalua weighed in at or just under the 135-pound limit on Friday, the last obstacle Valero needed to clear for his first U.S. fight since an Irvine Marriott card.

Valero, formerly managed by Oscar De La Hoya's father, Joel, was supposed to fight in New York after the Irvine bout but a medical exam revealed a hole in his skull, said former promoter Richard Schaefer. Valero's boxing license was revoked and he fought the next 15 bouts in destinations such as Japan, Venezuela, Panama and Mexico.

"He was in a motorcycle accident as a kid in Venezuela and fractured his skull; the hole is in the back of his head," said Schaefer, who noted that experts like Nevada's Dr. Margaret Goodman objected to Valero fighting.

"He has gone through extensive testing, and now Texas has cleared him," said Schaefer. "Texas obviously feels they've done enough due diligence to keep him safe. I know others in the states feel quite different."

Valero, however, is a devastating puncher, scoring first-round knockouts in his first 18 fights.

He's now fighting for the title vacated by Manny Pacquiao.

-- Lance Pugmire
Well i have just watched the guy in action and am far from impressed. Who in hell is training this fighter. He is wlde open to counters and needs to be taught just how to hit correctly. If he was taught the correct way to punch instead of his round house swings, he could increase his hitting power by at least twenty five percent. You can walk in with no defence against guys who are only concerned with surviving but as you move up your going to learn a very painful lesson from the better and smarter fighters. Why has his trainer not corrected these bad habits he has. Because to my mind right now he will get cut to pieces by any half decent fighter. Of course it will also be interesting to see how he takes it when the boot is on the other foot so to speak.

Am i being hard on him ? Yes but i am only saying to him like i would imagine any half decent trainer would tell him from the very start. Bad habits i think are harder to correct the longer they are allowed to go on. My take on him anyway.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 04 Apr 2009, 00:03
by dagosd2000
THE CLUB DE LAS ESTRELLAS

Haven't heard from my brother in law,El Momia(the Mummy) in a while. No one has. Usually calls his sister(my wife) every month.My sister in law in TJ,who owns the tacito joint, hasn't a clue. My daughter,grand daughters. Nothing.

I remember he was sleeping in his beat up old van that my wife shelled out 300 bucks for in the Coahuila. He was standing in the street with the cellophane hustling to tint your windows. Then they stole his van. Another 300 bucks. Another beat up old van,but this time he moved his operation to the boulevard on the other end of town.

However no one seems to concerned. This has happened before. He'll pop up again. Maybe not. He could be in jail. He could be in Michoacan. He might be dead. Hard to predict with this guy.

I remember many years ago when I was first married. There used to be this local TV program in TJ called Club De Las Estrellas. It was on once a week at night. I forget what day. The show was broadcast from the small TV studio atop the big hill overlooking the city. You can see the TV towers for miles in any direction. The road leading up to the TV station is called Calle de Television.

This is how the program worked. It was a local talent show. The program was only 15 minutes and was on the local station,channel 12. The emcee was this little round guy dressed in a bad suit. He was blind. Wore these thick dark glasses. Behind him were these crummy mariachis. The set up was like this. Anyone could get on the show and sing a mariachi song. A ranchera. If you weren't gonged for singin' shitty,you'd win the prize. A "machina de escribir". (a pen).

Well El Momia tells us one day he's going to debut on Club De Las Estellas. Sure enough he gets a snootfull and sings with the mariachis. His song is Mil Noches.(a Thousand Nights). I guess the son of a bitch was drunk enough to last through without getting gonged. Maybe he was just talented. I don't know. It was a long time ago.

Nothing developed from his winning the pen. He never went on to sing with the Tres Immortales. It was back to tinting windows and smoking pot in the Coahuila. Aside for a few delicate assignments like making people disappear,that was more or less of what I know.

Now El Momia is nowhere around. I don't think he's singing with the Mariachi Vargas in Mexico City. I just hope he's OK. OK for my brother in law would be something like making someone disappear.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 04 Apr 2009, 00:22
by dagosd2000
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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 04 Apr 2009, 00:24
by dagosd2000

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 04 Apr 2009, 03:11
by bennie
kikibalt wrote:By Robert Morales @ BS.com

It was 3:15 p.m. Wednesday on the West Coast. The phone rang and it was longtime publicist Bill Caplan calling from M.D. Anderson Cancer Center in Houston. Seconds later, Caplan handed the phone over to former junior lightweight world champion Genaro "Chicanito" Hernandez, who for the past six months has been battling rhabdomyosarcoma, a rare soft-tissue cancer.

To say Hernandez had good news would be an understatement of gargantuan proportions.

"I have no more tumor in my sinus area," said Hernandez, who spoke in whispered tones because the radiation treatments damaged his vocal chords. "The doctor today told me that the cancer seems to have been defeated. I got the final result 15 minutes ago. The only thing they're worried about is that I am still weighing only about 120 pounds and I that I have to continue the chemotherapy treatments."

BS.com spoke to Hernandez for about 10 minutes, during which time he briefly cried.

"Oh, wow, tears of joy," said Hernandez, when asked his first thoughts when his doctor gave him the good news. "I was thinking about all the support, the people that have prayed for me. It was God's will for me to survive what at one point was a deadly disease.

"They think it's completely gone. But like anything, there could always be one little cell that they didn't catch. But right now, the cancer is defeated."
This is a true miracle.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 04 Apr 2009, 03:15
by bennie
Rick Farris wrote:
bennie wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Edwin Valero the KO artist
April 1, 2009 by Edgar Gonzalez

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Kevin lole from Yahoo sports wrote an awesome piece on Valero.

When you’ve knocked out every man who’s dared to climb between the ropes and fight you, you get used to seeing opponents cower. You get used to the track meet. You recognize the look of fear.

Edwin Valero has seen the look so many times, he probably can’t count them. He’s a puncher of increasing renown, who has knocked out all 24 men he’s faced, including 19 in the first round. He’s become something of a boxing Paul Bunyan, a mythological figure whose power gets more extraordinary with every retelling.

Valero’s boxing skills, though, have been rudimentary at best. He’s never been mistaken for Floyd Mayweather Jr. in the ring, let alone for Willie Pep. A defensive wizard he is not.

And Valero has never really had to face serious fire in return. Most of the men he’s faced have been ducking for cover not long after the opening bell.

He’s almost guaranteed to get some fire back on Saturday, however, when he meets veteran Antonio Pitalua for the vacant WBC lightweight title on a Golden Boy Promotions pay-per-view card at the Frank Erwin Center in Austin, Texas.

Pitalua is 39 and other than for the dinner bell, hasn’t run once in his life. He’ll be off his stool and in Valero’s face about, oh, two seconds after the opening bell.

When he does that is when Valero’s abilities will come into much clearer focus.

Valero is 27 and harbors the notion that he’s the guy who will be able to knock off Manny Pacquiao. Despite the glittering record, though, he hasn’t proven he deserves it.

Pitalua is 46-3 with 40 knockouts and relishes a slugfest. If Valero can withstand the opening onslaught and get himself into the middle portion of the fight, he should roll to victory and be fine.

The problem, though, is that there have been many great punchers in the game who haven’t been able to take much more than a jab themselves. And if you can’t take a punch, you can’t compete with the likes of Pacquiao.

“I know my capacities,” Pitalua said on a recent teleconference. “I can take a punch. I fought my entire career - most of my career - in Mexico. Edwin knows what Mexican fighters bring to the table and I’ve fought all tough fighters. I want to know who has he fought who’s tough? Yes, he can punch, but can he take a punch? And on April 4 we’ll see because I can punch.”

Valero professes respect for Pitalua, who knocked out Jose Armando Santa Cruz in six rounds in his last outing, but insists he’s not concerned by the threat Pitalua brings.

Valero, who is now trained by one-time Oscar De La Hoya trainer Robert Alcazar, isn’t expecting his 25th professional fight to be any different from his first 24. If he can handle a guy who is not afraid of him and who will be in his face trying to knock him out, rather than facing someone afraid of his power and looking to survive, he should collect knockout No. 25 and move toward the kind of fight he’s dreaming of landing.

There’s still a lot that is not known about Valero, though.

“I know what I can do, and I know what Pitalua brings,” Valero said. “And he’s a fighter that on the night of the fight he’s going to roll; he’s going to fall. He’s too slow for me. I’m too fast, I’m too strong for him, and I want to fight the best. He’s a good fighter, but I’m up for bigger and better things.”

What could be next if he gets past Pitalua is a bout with Amir Khan, who recently with the aid of a massive cut stopped Marco Antonio Barrera in the fifth round. But Valero’s record makes him a possible opponent for guys like Pacquiao and Juan Manuel Marquez.

Before he gets those fights, though, he’ll need further medical clearance in the U.S. He suffered a head injury in a 2001 motorcycle accident that caused him to be placed on medical suspension in New York.

All other U.S. jurisdictions honored that suspension until he was examined independently and Texas officials made the call to license him. His new promoter, Top Rank, is soon going to begin the process of getting him licensed in other venues.

“Every fighter that steps in the ring runs a risk of being injured or being hurt,” Valero said. “And I am in no more risk than any other fighter. You know, because of the procedure, because of the surgery that I had - I want to clarify, it was an accident that I had many years ago on a motorcycle. It was very minor [and] it wasn’t what it has been played out to be. It was outside of my brain; it wasn’t that they took my brain out, washed it and put it back in. It was nothing like that.

“It was a vein that erupted and they took care of it. I’ve been to doctors all over the world. I’ve been to Argentina, I’ve been to Panama, I’ve been to Venezuela. I have seen all the best doctors in America. I actually saw the doctor that performed the surgery on Marco Antonio Barrera, Dr. Madrazo, and they’ve all told me the same that I’m clear to fight; that I’m OK; that I don’t run any more risks than any other fighter.”

The risk he faces on Saturday isn’t a medical one; it’s an age-old question that has dimmed many stars throughout the years: Can he take it nearly as well as he can give it?

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If he can, a star may be born on Saturday in the shadow of the Texas state capitol.

By Kevin lole from Yahoo sports
Believe me, Team Khan will never challenge Valero (if he wins).
Amir Khan . . .

After watching a replay of Khan's fight with Barrera several times, I understand your feelings, Bennie. What Amir seems to lack is something on the inside. We have learned in recent years that physical skills and gifts (even a big punch) aren't worth much to a man who does not have a fighter's heart and spirit. This is what Amir Khan lacks. He seems to have some talent, but on a championship level (even in today's weak market) he simply lacks the balls necessary to take him much higher. The thing I have always loved about true British fighters is that tremendous heart and courage, that "stiff upper lip" attitude that once made that little country rule the world. Ricky Hatton has it, over and above skill, that's his edge when he steps into the ring. Just my opinion.

-Rick Farris
It's Khan's chin, really, Rick (for me). Valero (and Pitalua for that matter) are too heavy handed for Khan and it would astonish me if a match was made with the winner tonight. I think Khan has a chance with a lesser puncher of a champ.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 04 Apr 2009, 03:21
by bennie
kikibalt wrote:Image
My brother used to live a stone's throw from the old 'Ring'. There is a boxing pub close by now - the only reminder. Some of the British boys meet up there.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 04 Apr 2009, 03:25
by dagosd2000
With all the inventions,technology,the control one has with the click of a mouse,the flip of a switch,and the evidence proven through science,the word 'miracle' seems invalid. But when the progress of human beings is unable to resolve a nightmare,the passing of uncontrollable fear to a hand that is not your own may give the word 'miracle' an explanation.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 04 Apr 2009, 03:30
by Trainer Monkey
I know he's in Mexico City right now,but he's originally from Oxnard,anybody have a direct contact phone number for Abel Ochoa? Im trying to get the Tamaras fight booked. I know he's pissed off,that they tried to low ball him on the original offer,but I was able to get him more money,and now I cant freaking get ahold of him.
I know its a long shot,but this seemed like the most appropriate spot to ask,Id hate for the kid to loose a shot at the WBO and WBC Latino titles because I cant get ahold of him.
Speaking of which,Ive got to brush up on my Spanish,because currently Mi Espanol est muy feo,Habla espanol,muy poco,and everyone Im dealing with in the higher ranks is of some Spanish descent.
Mind you,its easier then calling Ireland,I cant understand a damned word those guys are saying :DDD

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 04 Apr 2009, 03:32
by dagosd2000
Bennie
Did you ever see a fight at Albert Hall? When I watch Hitchcock's "The Man Who Knew Too Much",the scene at Albert Hall where the attempted assassination takes place is fascinating. Too bad Hitch couldn't have directed a movie involving boxing at Albert Hall. Looks like a beautifull theater.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 04 Apr 2009, 03:38
by bennie
dagosd2000 wrote:Bennie
Did you ever see a fight at Albert Hall? When I watch Hitchcock's "The Man Who Knew Too Much",the scene at Albert Hall where the attempted assassination takes place is fascinating. Too bad Hitch couldn't have directed a movie involving boxing at Albert Hall. Looks like a beautifull theater.
Many times, Rog. It is an unbelievable venue. There is not a bad seat in the house. They don't stage boxing there any more, however, which is a great shame.
I watched Honeyghan fight there and Mike McCallum.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 04 Apr 2009, 03:39
by dagosd2000
Trainer Monkey wrote:I know he's in Mexico City right now,but he's originally from Oxnard,anybody have a direct contact phone number for Abel Ochoa? Im trying to get the Tamaras fight booked. I know he's pissed off,that they tried to low ball him on the original offer,but I was able to get him more money,and now I cant freaking get ahold of him.
I know its a long shot,but this seemed like the most appropriate spot to ask,Id hate for the kid to loose a shot at the WBO and WBC Latino titles because I cant get ahold of him.
Speaking of which,Ive got to brush up on my Spanish,because currently Mi Espanol est muy feo,Habla espanol,muy poco,and everyone Im dealing with in the higher ranks is of some Spanish descent.
Mind you,its easier then calling Ireland,I cant understand a damned word those guys are saying :DDD

T.M.
I'm with you on the understanding of the Irish. I speak English,OK Spanish,but trying to comprehend the Irish is like Japanese to me. Trying to understand the Scots is like Chinese. :lol:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 04 Apr 2009, 03:41
by bennie
...and just to add, Rog, you are so right: it is a beautiful Hall, inside and out.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 04 Apr 2009, 03:47
by Trainer Monkey
dagosd2000 wrote:
Trainer Monkey wrote:I know he's in Mexico City right now,but he's originally from Oxnard,anybody have a direct contact phone number for Abel Ochoa? Im trying to get the Tamaras fight booked. I know he's pissed off,that they tried to low ball him on the original offer,but I was able to get him more money,and now I cant freaking get ahold of him.
I know its a long shot,but this seemed like the most appropriate spot to ask,Id hate for the kid to loose a shot at the WBO and WBC Latino titles because I cant get ahold of him.
Speaking of which,Ive got to brush up on my Spanish,because currently Mi Espanol est muy feo,Habla espanol,muy poco,and everyone Im dealing with in the higher ranks is of some Spanish descent.
Mind you,its easier then calling Ireland,I cant understand a damned word those guys are saying :DDD

T.M.
I'm with you on the understanding of the Irish. I speak English,OK Spanish,but trying to comprehend the Irish is like Japanese to me. Trying to understand the Scots is like Chinese. :lol:
No kidding,every time someone tells me I have to call Ireland,you can just see my shoulders slump,and I let out a deep exhale,because I know the words are going to be "Excuse me" alot.
This week Ive dealt with an Ortiz,a Rodriguez,Hernandez's people,a Carlos,a Melendez,no freaking problems,nice easy communication. I see Ive got to call an O'anything,I allmost want to cry.
Between the s-y phone service an an accent thick enough you could break stones on it,I cant understand anything.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 04 Apr 2009, 03:48
by bennie
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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 04 Apr 2009, 03:49
by dagosd2000
bennie wrote:...and just to add, Rog, you are so right: it is a beautiful Hall, inside and out.

Bennie
I saw it from the outside from atop one of those double decker buses. We got off at Albert Hall. (We could get on another tour bus with the tickets we had purchased). It was closed. The plight of being a tourist is that you have to play the cards that are dealt to you. Albert Hall was closed until the Fall. We were in London in July. Hotter than hell that year. Summer of 2006.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 04 Apr 2009, 03:50
by dagosd2000
bennie wrote:Image
Beautifull 'ol Chum. Thanks for putting that up. :TU:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 04 Apr 2009, 04:00
by dagosd2000
Bennie
Here in the colonies we're always tearing down historical landmarks. They're starting to raze the old Yankee Stadium. This is our most famous out door arena for sporting events. The Yankees with Ruth and Gehrig. The Louis/Schmeling fight. The 'sudden death' playoff between the Colts and the Giants.

My understanding is the old treasure didn't have room to build enough corporate sky boxes. They are building a new Yankee Stadium across the street. There'll be plenty of sky boxes,hotel rooms,shops,and spas in the new one. I've never attended a game with the thought of frequenting a spa. Besides,it's hard to throw beer from inside a sauna. :D