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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte | BT PPV - 23 April 2022
Posted: 07 Apr 2022, 03:27
by coneye
KiwiRider wrote: ↑06 Apr 2022, 20:21
coneye wrote: ↑06 Apr 2022, 18:15
Blueprint wrote: ↑06 Apr 2022, 17:40
allegedly is fuming at Whyte on latest interviews. If the PPVs are poor this could be a financial catastrophe, and don't expect whyte to get his purse money
If i was Whyte i would pull one last stunt ,, issue Frank with a warning that if the money is'nt in Escrow , 7 days before the fight , i'm not showing up
That interview with Whytes lawyer and Fwank last week , escrow was mentioned a few times by Whytes lawyer
Got any brains they will not just mention it , they will sanction it ,,, Just look at Fwanks record , then add in the fact he's paid out a colosal amount , he needs a huge amount of ppv's ,, too make money and pay for it , , he's got a shite undercard which means even myself who would always buy a fight like this simply because i would'nt want to risk a stream going down ,, but i'm not doing it i figure there taking the piss on this one , and i'm not gonna pay out 50-60 bucks for one fight .
Well anyway you just need enough like me to say get stuffed not worth it , after all lets have it right its only Whyte , who realisticly is'nt much better than Chisora ,,, well enough don't buy and Whyte is'nt gonna get paid , in fact even if it makes money would'nt suprise me if Whyte does'nt get paid , with Fwank citing he never done his part he cost us prifits ,
Nope if i was Whyte no escrow , no show
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte | BT PPV - 23 April 2022
Posted: 07 Apr 2022, 04:01
by mickey1975
There is a contract in place. Fwank can't just break it. It doesn't include Escrow.
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte | BT PPV - 23 April 2022
Posted: 07 Apr 2022, 04:05
by maverick23
mickey1975 wrote: ↑07 Apr 2022, 04:01
There is a contract in place. Fwank can't just break it. It doesn't include Escrow.
There have been contracts before where purses haven’t been paid. The contract won’t be with Frank, it’ll be with Queensbury.
I can’t see Frank welching on this one as it would get far more publicity than the other times he’s done it. I can see him playing silly beggars afterwards (particularly if Whyte wins) by delaying payments until the contractual position is resolved.
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte | BT PPV - 23 April 2022
Posted: 07 Apr 2022, 04:59
by KiwiRider
coneye wrote: ↑07 Apr 2022, 03:27
KiwiRider wrote: ↑06 Apr 2022, 20:21
coneye wrote: ↑06 Apr 2022, 18:15
If i was Whyte i would pull one last stunt ,, issue Frank with a warning that if the money is'nt in Escrow , 7 days before the fight , i'm not showing up
That interview with Whytes lawyer and Fwank last week , escrow was mentioned a few times by Whytes lawyer
Got any brains they will not just mention it , they will sanction it ,,, Just look at Fwanks record , then add in the fact he's paid out a colosal amount , he needs a huge amount of ppv's ,, too make money and pay for it , , he's got a shite undercard which means even myself who would always buy a fight like this simply because i would'nt want to risk a stream going down ,, but i'm not doing it i figure there taking the piss on this one , and i'm not gonna pay out 50-60 bucks for one fight .
Well anyway you just need enough like me to say get stuffed not worth it , after all lets have it right its only Whyte , who realisticly is'nt much better than Chisora ,,, well enough don't buy and Whyte is'nt gonna get paid , in fact even if it makes money would'nt suprise me if Whyte does'nt get paid , with Fwank citing he never done his part he cost us prifits ,
Nope if i was Whyte no escrow , no show
I had my concerns when Fwankie won the bid, its a lot of money. Then a little niggle when they tried to bully Whyte down a bit in the split.
But heck, the tickets sold fast. So hopefully the ticket money alone is enough to cover the purses.
And I actually don't mind the undercard, it's not great, but its not too bad.
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte | BT PPV - 23 April 2022
Posted: 07 Apr 2022, 05:19
by jimmystone
KiwiRider wrote: ↑07 Apr 2022, 04:59
coneye wrote: ↑07 Apr 2022, 03:27
KiwiRider wrote: ↑06 Apr 2022, 20:21
That interview with Whytes lawyer and Fwank last week , escrow was mentioned a few times by Whytes lawyer
Got any brains they will not just mention it , they will sanction it ,,, Just look at Fwanks record , then add in the fact he's paid out a colosal amount , he needs a huge amount of ppv's ,, too make money and pay for it , , he's got a shite undercard which means even myself who would always buy a fight like this simply because i would'nt want to risk a stream going down ,, but i'm not doing it i figure there taking the piss on this one , and i'm not gonna pay out 50-60 bucks for one fight .
Well anyway you just need enough like me to say get stuffed not worth it , after all lets have it right its only Whyte , who realisticly is'nt much better than Chisora ,,, well enough don't buy and Whyte is'nt gonna get paid , in fact even if it makes money would'nt suprise me if Whyte does'nt get paid , with Fwank citing he never done his part he cost us prifits ,
Nope if i was Whyte no escrow , no show
I had my concerns when Fwankie won the bid, its a lot of money. Then a little niggle when they tried to bully Whyte down a bit in the split.
But heck, the tickets sold fast. So hopefully the ticket money alone is enough to cover the purses.
And I actually don't mind the undercard, it's not great, but its not too bad.
I estimate the live gate will leave them with 6.5 million quid after all costs except purses. So it's a good start.
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte | BT PPV - 23 April 2022
Posted: 07 Apr 2022, 05:35
by jimmystone
The promoter will then get circa 45% of both PPV revenue and international rights.
Unless the take up is huge domestically and worldwide I don't see how both Tyson and Whyte can get paid the purse bid amount. Presumably Tyson is on a sliding scale.
They'll all do okay and I wouldn't mind being a few million behind any of them.
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte | BT PPV - 23 April 2022
Posted: 07 Apr 2022, 06:21
by mickey1975
And how qualified are you to estimate these things?
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte | BT PPV - 23 April 2022
Posted: 07 Apr 2022, 06:30
by jimmystone
mickey1975 wrote: ↑07 Apr 2022, 06:21
And how qualified are you to estimate these things?
I did mental arithmetic at school. It's fairly simple maths Mick. The 45% cut is known to be standard. Wembley costs circa 750k + 10% of gate + staffing and police. It's hardly rocket science.
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte | BT PPV - 23 April 2022
Posted: 07 Apr 2022, 06:38
by mickey1975
jimmystone wrote: ↑07 Apr 2022, 06:30
mickey1975 wrote: ↑07 Apr 2022, 06:21
And how qualified are you to estimate these things?
I did mental arithmetic at school. It's fairly simple maths Mick. The 45% cut is known to be standard. Wembley costs circa 750k + 10% of gate + staffing and police. It's hardly rocket science.
How do you know the gate? Ticketmaster bought the gate and have been selling them way above face value.
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte | BT PPV - 23 April 2022
Posted: 07 Apr 2022, 06:47
by handsofstone
Whyte's a drug cheating SOB, Warren's a thieving SOB, In an ideal world Whyte will get starched in a round and Warren will lose a fortune and boxing will be rid of him for good
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte | BT PPV - 23 April 2022
Posted: 07 Apr 2022, 06:53
by maverick23
jimmystone wrote: ↑07 Apr 2022, 06:30
mickey1975 wrote: ↑07 Apr 2022, 06:21
And how qualified are you to estimate these things?
I did mental arithmetic at school. It's fairly simple maths Mick. The 45% cut is known to be standard. Wembley costs circa 750k + 10% of gate + staffing and police. It's hardly rocket science.
The 45% isn’t as accurate anymore. It certainly used to be 40-50% but nowadays it will depend on the fighter specific deals with the networks (like AJ has/had a specific deal with Sky) and it’s usually a much lower % for the broadcaster.
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte | BT PPV - 23 April 2022
Posted: 07 Apr 2022, 07:24
by joshj909
Realistically it should be Joyce but I think Frank would prefer to put Dubois in there. Who else if it's not from Frank's stable? Nuri Seferi? Helenius? Hammer? Sanchez?
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte | BT PPV - 23 April 2022
Posted: 07 Apr 2022, 07:50
by gregregegg
No way Tyson fights joyce short notice...
Kabayal? hele? Takem? Hammer II ?(grim), Otto II? (grim), Chissora III ?
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte | BT PPV - 23 April 2022
Posted: 07 Apr 2022, 07:52
by Ruthless-RKO
joshj909 wrote: ↑07 Apr 2022, 07:24
Realistically it should be Joyce but I think Frank would prefer to put Dubois in there. Who else if it's not from Frank's stable? Nuri Seferi? Helenius? Hammer? Sanchez?
Probably Helenius.
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte | BT PPV - 23 April 2022
Posted: 07 Apr 2022, 07:54
by joshj909
Not sure if this has already been posted
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte | BT PPV - 23 April 2022
Posted: 07 Apr 2022, 10:23
by tony1234
Why would Whyte pull out ? It's money for old rope, 8 million and he'd never get anything like that again.
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte | BT PPV - 23 April 2022
Posted: 07 Apr 2022, 10:50
by mickey1975
Very positive sounds coming out of the Fury camp. He sounds in good nick.
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte | BT PPV - 23 April 2022
Posted: 07 Apr 2022, 11:18
by jimmystone
mickey1975 wrote: ↑07 Apr 2022, 10:50
Very positive sounds coming out of the Fury camp. He sounds in good nick.
He's doing everything right really. Having Joe Parker in camp full-time is great. Top drawer technical sparring and then bring in the likes of Miller to let the hands go. Fury is way too good for Whyte, I think.
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte | BT PPV - 23 April 2022
Posted: 07 Apr 2022, 12:06
by dookus
mickey1975 wrote: ↑07 Apr 2022, 10:50
Very positive sounds coming out of the Fury camp. He sounds in good nick.
Where'd you hear, Mick? Sorry, not been following the social media etc of late.
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte | BT PPV - 23 April 2022
Posted: 07 Apr 2022, 12:31
by mickey1975
dookus wrote: ↑07 Apr 2022, 12:06
mickey1975 wrote: ↑07 Apr 2022, 10:50
Very positive sounds coming out of the Fury camp. He sounds in good nick.
Where'd you hear, Mick? Sorry, not been following the social media etc of late.
Seen a few interviews from his team. They look genuinely happy with him.
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte | BT PPV - 23 April 2022
Posted: 07 Apr 2022, 13:10
by maverick23
They did a section on TalkSPORT today about the undercard being rubbish with them reading out people’s comments. As usual, Jordan was pretty balanced about it. They tried to get Frank on to discuss it with him but unsurprisingly they couldn’t get hold of him.
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte | BT PPV - 23 April 2022
Posted: 07 Apr 2022, 15:01
by KiwiRider
jimmystone wrote: ↑07 Apr 2022, 11:18
mickey1975 wrote: ↑07 Apr 2022, 10:50
Very positive sounds coming out of the Fury camp. He sounds in good nick.
He's doing everything right really. Having Joe Parker in camp full-time is great. Top drawer technical sparring and then bring in the likes of Miller to let the hands go. Fury is way too good for Whyte, I think.
Parker doesn't spar with Tyson, they do train together though.
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte | BT PPV - 23 April 2022
Posted: 07 Apr 2022, 15:23
by jimmystone
KiwiRider wrote: ↑07 Apr 2022, 15:01
jimmystone wrote: ↑07 Apr 2022, 11:18
mickey1975 wrote: ↑07 Apr 2022, 10:50
Very positive sounds coming out of the Fury camp. He sounds in good nick.
He's doing everything right really. Having Joe Parker in camp full-time is great. Top drawer technical sparring and then bring in the likes of Miller to let the hands go. Fury is way too good for Whyte, I think.
Parker doesn't spar with Tyson, they do train together though.
I was under the impression they did technical sparring ("touch sparring") fairly frequently?
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte | BT PPV - 23 April 2022
Posted: 07 Apr 2022, 15:26
by a force
Makes me think this is just a cash out & retire for Whyte. Either that or he’s a retard.
If he isn’t retiring it’s a bizarre move to fornicate off BT Sport & ESPN when you manage fighters. DAZN won’t be around for long so you need as many TV companies as possible that you’re on good terms with.
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte | BT PPV - 23 April 2022
Posted: 07 Apr 2022, 15:26
by Wee Tommy
KiwiRider wrote: ↑07 Apr 2022, 15:01
jimmystone wrote: ↑07 Apr 2022, 11:18
mickey1975 wrote: ↑07 Apr 2022, 10:50
Very positive sounds coming out of the Fury camp. He sounds in good nick.
He's doing everything right really. Having Joe Parker in camp full-time is great. Top drawer technical sparring and then bring in the likes of Miller to let the hands go. Fury is way too good for Whyte, I think.
Parker doesn't spar with Tyson, they do train together though.
I read they body spar each other mate?