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kikibalt wrote:

Randyman wrote:Guys, keep my mother in your prayers. She hasn't been feeling well. Lots of things going wrong lately and I'm starting to get a little worried. She'll be 80 this coming May 2nd. What makes it hard is that she lives about 70 miles away and I can't just jump in the car in the middle of the week and check in on her. Jeri and I are driving up Friday night to spend the weekend and Easter with her.

I've been pretty busy with work this last couple of weeks so I haven't had much time to post. I have some catching up to do.

First: Tom. you're in my prayers my friend. I hope all is well with you.

Rog, Happy belated birthday. I hope you had a great birthday.

Randy

Randy, I hope your mom will start feeling better, we here will keep her in our prayers.

Thanks Rick

Randy
The 'ol ploy in TJ is to stand in front of a cart selling tacos,hot dogs,or whatever and try to get away without paying for all you ate. First you have to make sure it's crowded in front. As the guy sees you eating,he'll keep shoving more out your way. Then when yoy finish and have to pay up,you always low ball it. For example if you ate six tacos,you tell the guy you ate four. It always works. They don't question nothing. They still make a profit and they know you'll be back again.

Rick Farris wrote:

dagosd2000 wrote:Went to the Getty Museum yesterday. Any of you guys hear of an eatery called "Honey Kettle" in Culver City?We ate there on the way back. They make fried chicken with pancakes on the side. Unbelievable.

Roger . . . Had a girlfriend that I worked with at MGM. We were working long hours on a movie and stuck on stage for hours, so at lunch we'd drive off the lot to eat. We ate at the "Honey Kettle" quite a few times.

-Rick

You know Rick I was thinking of you when I was driving by those movie studios. I think the one I saw was the Sony Studio. Ever work there?

kikibalt wrote:

Randyman wrote:Guys, keep my mother in your prayers. She hasn't been feeling well. Lots of things going wrong lately and I'm starting to get a little worried. She'll be 80 this coming May 2nd. What makes it hard is that she lives about 70 miles away and I can't just jump in the car in the middle of the week and check in on her. Jeri and I are driving up Friday night to spend the weekend and Easter with her.

I've been pretty busy with work this last couple of weeks so I haven't had much time to post. I have some catching up to do.

First: Tom. you're in my prayers my friend. I hope all is well with you.

Rog, Happy belated birthday. I hope you had a great birthday.

Randy

Randy, I hope your mom will start feeling better, we here will keep her in our prayers.

Thanks Frank

Randyman wrote:

kikibalt wrote:

Randyman wrote:Guys, keep my mother in your prayers. She hasn't been feeling well. Lots of things going wrong lately and I'm starting to get a little worried. She'll be 80 this coming May 2nd. What makes it hard is that she lives about 70 miles away and I can't just jump in the car in the middle of the week and check in on her. Jeri and I are driving up Friday night to spend the weekend and Easter with her.

I've been pretty busy with work this last couple of weeks so I haven't had much time to post. I have some catching up to do.

First: Tom. you're in my prayers my friend. I hope all is well with you.

Rog, Happy belated birthday. I hope you had a great birthday.

Randy

Randy, I hope your mom will start feeling better, we here will keep her in our prayers.

Thanks Frank

Randy,I remember when my mom was sick. A phone call once a day from a loving son is the best medicine. Rog

dagosd2000 wrote:Randy
The 'ol ploy in TJ is to stand in front of a cart selling tacos,hot dogs,or whatever and try to get away without paying for all you ate. First you have to make sure it's crowded in front. As the guy sees you eating,he'll keep shoving more out your way. Then when yoy finish and have to pay up,you always low ball it. For example if you ate six tacos,you tell the guy you ate four. It always works. They don't question nothing. They still make a profit and they know you'll be back again.

Sounds like my kind of place to eat. Someday soon Jeri and I are going to have to make the trip to TJ with you and Maria. I'll have to get my stomach in shape first.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iXUCN9Yi4k
"Jumpin' at the Savoy"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkyIqYYBX-4
"Stompin' At The Savoy"

dagosd2000 wrote:
Randy,I remember when my mom was sick. A phone call once a day from a loving son is the best medicine. Rog

You're right Rog. I feel a little guilty because the last couple of weeks I haven't called much. Jeri calls her everyday and will probably stay with her next week.

Randy

I'm hitting the hay early tonight. Morning comes quick.

Randy

scartissue wrote:

kikibalt wrote:Former Heavyweight Champion of the World Ken Norton and his friend, Hassan Chitsaz

By Dan Hernandez

“If you believe, you can achieve!”

I had an afternoon meeting on April 1, 2009 at a diner in Laguna, California with multi-time World Heavyweight Boxing champion of the world, Ken Norton, 50-7-1-1, 33 KO‘s, Current WBA, NABA, & WBA FedCaribe Continental Heavyweight Champion, Hassan Chitsaz, 10-0, 10 KO’s, and Retired Educator and Sinecure, Tom Baca. Baca, a friend for over 30 years has aided me by volunteering his photographic talents to some of my pieces and is a long time Norton fan.

Norton started boxing in the U. S. Marine Corps from 1963 through 1967, compiling a record of 24-2 and winning three All-Marine Heavyweight titles. He turned pro in 1967. Registering a career defining victory over Muhammad Ali in 1973 and winning the NABF Heavyweight crown in the process. In 1978 Norton was named heavyweight world champion by the WBC, stating that Norton’s victory over Jimmy Young, victor over George Foreman, was a title elimination bout. Losing his title to Larry Holmes, in what many consider to be the 10th greatest heavyweight fight in history. Norton lost his title by an extremely close decision on June 9, 1978. Norton remains the only holder of a world heavyweight title to win a world title fight by a no-contest.

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Norton's record is 42-7-1 not 50-7-1-1. I'm going to assume that last digit is supposed to be the no-contest that was mentioned. Well that never happened anytime in Ken's career. He won a 15 round decision over Jimmy Young and when the WBC stripped Leon Spinks of his title for failure to defend against their #1 contender (Norton), the title was belatedly awarded to Norton on the basis of that win. He then lost his title on a 15 round decision to Larry Holmes. That gibberish about Norton being the only heavyweight champion to win a world title on a no-contest (a no-contest is a no-contest, you cannot win or lose) should have read, "Norton is the only heavyweight champion never to win a heavyweight title fight". I'm surprised at Dan Hernandez' gaffs in this piece.

Scartissue

Dan . . . I'm not impressed with Dan Hernandez.
He doesn't really know what he's writing about in most cases.
This is today's version of a boxing journalist.

Aside from the great writers who wrote for the top boxing publications of the day, when I was coming up in Los Angeles,
we had two great newspapers with two great sports editors who knew boxing from deep in their hearts.
The great Jim Murray of the L.A. Times, and Herald-Examiner Sports editor, Allen Malamud.
Malamud wrote boxing, he was always in the gym, ringside for every card, he even dated one of the Quarry sisters

I don't care how they cover today's boxing, because it doesn't merit better coverage.
However, when you start stepping back in time, I think it's important to keep the facts straight.
It's really quite easy, today we have a lot of sources for accurate statistical information.
I don't expect guys like Dan Hernandez to undertsand how the era "felt". But he could at least get his stats straight.

-Rick Farris

dagosd2000 wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:

dagosd2000 wrote:Went to the Getty Museum yesterday. Any of you guys hear of an eatery called "Honey Kettle" in Culver City?We ate there on the way back. They make fried chicken with pancakes on the side. Unbelievable.

Roger . . . Had a girlfriend that I worked with at MGM. We were working long hours on a movie and stuck on stage for hours, so at lunch we'd drive off the lot to eat. We ate at the "Honey Kettle" quite a few times.

-Rick

You know Rick I was thinking of you when I was driving by those movie studios. I think the one I saw was the Sony Studio. Ever work there?

Roger . . . Sony is the old MGM lot. In the mid 80's, when I was working there on "Poltergeist II", Ted Turner bought MGM and it's film library. He colorized all of the great MGM B&W Classiscs, and once he did, he sold the studio to Lorimar Productions. This is where they shot "Dallas" & "Knott's Landing", and where we filmed the last season of "Little House on the Praire" and "Highway to Heaven". Lorimar sold the studio to Columbia Pictures and it was known as "Columbia-Tri Star" for a few years before selling out to Sony.

The Japanese thought they would come to Hollywood with the success they have had in other business ventures in America. NOT! The Hollywood Boys seperated the Japs from their money and then were hired back to make things work right. I have worked many, many, many major films on that legendary lot. On stage 15, we shot "Little House". That stage was also where they shot the "Yellow Brick Road" scene for "The Wizard of Oz". All the Studios have long, rich history's, but none greater than Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer. I worked with a lot of great directors there, Billy Wilder, Steven Spielberg (Hook), Sydney Pollack, Lord Richard Attonburough, Herb Ross, Rob Reiner, Penny Marshall, Mel Brooks, John Avildson, and too many to list.

Stage 30 has a water tank where I worked on "Cannery Row" with Nick Nolte in 1981. That's the same stage where they shot all of the "water musicals" of the 30's & 40's, where Esther Williams did her diving shots. We shot Rocky-4 on three stages, when it was Columbia-Tri Star.

This is where Tracey, Hepburn, Gable, Lombard, Harlow, Garland, Rooney, a young Elizabeth Taylor, Debbie Reynolds, Van Johnson, Sinatra, Gene Kelly, Brando,and the "Little Rascal" brats made history. Back in the days of the "Studio System" (great days, I might add) these actors were known as "contract players", and whatever studio they were under contract with, owned them.

Sorry guys, I get carried away when it comes to Studios. They have been a big part of my life, from the time I was a kid. I was on stage at Warner's many years before I saw the inside of a boxing gym.

-Rick Farris

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG7y_CD9rMg

Andres Segovia

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SE4sEHqi4tA

Sevilla by Albeniz

John Williams guitarist

Amanda will be dancing there this summer. My heart soars.

kikibalt wrote:
Jim Watt vs Sean O'Grady
November 1, 1980

Bloody Hell!

Rick Farris wrote:

scartissue wrote:

kikibalt wrote:Former Heavyweight Champion of the World Ken Norton and his friend, Hassan Chitsaz

By Dan Hernandez

“If you believe, you can achieve!”

I had an afternoon meeting on April 1, 2009 at a diner in Laguna, California with multi-time World Heavyweight Boxing champion of the world, Ken Norton, 50-7-1-1, 33 KO‘s, Current WBA, NABA, & WBA FedCaribe Continental Heavyweight Champion, Hassan Chitsaz, 10-0, 10 KO’s, and Retired Educator and Sinecure, Tom Baca. Baca, a friend for over 30 years has aided me by volunteering his photographic talents to some of my pieces and is a long time Norton fan.

Norton started boxing in the U. S. Marine Corps from 1963 through 1967, compiling a record of 24-2 and winning three All-Marine Heavyweight titles. He turned pro in 1967. Registering a career defining victory over Muhammad Ali in 1973 and winning the NABF Heavyweight crown in the process. In 1978 Norton was named heavyweight world champion by the WBC, stating that Norton’s victory over Jimmy Young, victor over George Foreman, was a title elimination bout. Losing his title to Larry Holmes, in what many consider to be the 10th greatest heavyweight fight in history. Norton lost his title by an extremely close decision on June 9, 1978. Norton remains the only holder of a world heavyweight title to win a world title fight by a no-contest.

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Norton's record is 42-7-1 not 50-7-1-1. I'm going to assume that last digit is supposed to be the no-contest that was mentioned. Well that never happened anytime in Ken's career. He won a 15 round decision over Jimmy Young and when the WBC stripped Leon Spinks of his title for failure to defend against their #1 contender (Norton), the title was belatedly awarded to Norton on the basis of that win. He then lost his title on a 15 round decision to Larry Holmes. That gibberish about Norton being the only heavyweight champion to win a world title on a no-contest (a no-contest is a no-contest, you cannot win or lose) should have read, "Norton is the only heavyweight champion never to win a heavyweight title fight". I'm surprised at Dan Hernandez' gaffs in this piece.

Scartissue

Dan . . . I'm not impressed with Dan Hernandez.
He doesn't really know what he's writing about in most cases.
This is today's version of a boxing journalist.

Aside from the great writers who wrote for the top boxing publications of the day, when I was coming up in Los Angeles,
we had two great newspapers with two great sports editors who knew boxing from deep in their hearts.
The great Jim Murray of the L.A. Times, and Herald-Examiner Sports editor, Allen Malamud.
Malamud wrote boxing, he was always in the gym, ringside for every card, he even dated one of the Quarry sisters

I don't care how they cover today's boxing, because it doesn't merit better coverage.
However, when you start stepping back in time, I think it's important to keep the facts straight.
It's really quite easy, today we have a lot of sources for accurate statistical information.
I don't expect guys like Dan Hernandez to undertsand how the era "felt". But he could at least get his stats straight.

-Rick Farris

Dan is a nice guy and means well, but other then attending a few fights with his dad in the 1960s, Dan does not have a boxing background, something that he himself will tell you so, so yes, he will make mistakes and will admit to them when he does.

Tornado Sighting!
April 8, 2009 by Felipe Leon

The rumor swirling around Tijuana, MX, is that the former three time welterweight champion and SDFights.com #1 ranked Antonio “Tijuana Tornado” Margarito will be fighting in his hometown as soon as July of this year.

As we all know, Margarito along with his trainer and father figure Javier Capetillo are suspended by the California State Atlethic Commission and subsequently by every other state in the union for illegal hand wraps that were discovered prior to his loss of the WBA welterweight title at the fists of “Sugar” Shane Mosley last January.

“Yes, there is talks of me fighting here in Tijuana in the summer. They have said that it might be against Carlos Baldomir or a Russian,” Margarito said to me in passing a week and a half ago at “Tijuana Thunder”. “They want me to get ranked by the WBC so I can go after Andre Berto.”

The “they” mentioned could only be his promoters Top Rank and in the Mexico fight, Zanfer Promotions, the Mexican faction of the Arum empire.

As far as the Russian mentioned by the “Tijuana Tornado”, it might be WBC #9 ranked Ivan “The Terrible” Kirpa (23-1, 15KO). Baldomir is not currently ranked by the WBC as one of their top ten welterweights but at one point the Gaucho fighter was the WBC welterweight champion before being dethroned by Floyd Mayweather Jr.

It has been confirmed to exclusively to SDFights.com by an official of the Tijuana Boxing Comission that Zanfer Promotions does in fact have a date reserved for the summer.

After Margarito’s trainer Javier Capetillo worked the corner of “Panchito” Arce, Jorge “Travieso” Arce’s brother, earlier this year it has been said in the corridors of the state capitol that his license will not be reinstated by the CSAC in January of 2010 when his suspension is over.

The CSAS considers it a slap in the face for Capetillo to work a corner after he was suspended.

You can only speculate that the CSAC would feel the same way about Margarito fighting in July a mere ten minutes from the border that Mexico shares with the state that suspended him.

According to Bob Arum, Top Rank will not hold a promotion in the state of California as long as the comission up holds the suspension of the former champion.

I for one, would like to see Margarito fight again. Whether its in Tijuana or north of the border, that is a choice he and his team have to make. It is obvious that Margarito’s purse would be much higher in the United States and I find it hard to understand why Margarito would jeopardize higher pay in the future for the opportunity to fight in Tijuana.

He must have much to prove.

.....I just put "stompin at the savoy" on my desktop. Thanks for that!

BoxBuzz wrote:.....I just put "stompin at the savoy" on my desktop. Thanks for that!

Had you heard it before?

The Song...yes....that rendition? No.....and that arrangement is as good as it gets!

BoxBuzz wrote:The Song...yes....that rendition? No.....and that arrangement is as good as it gets!

That has always been my favored rendition of that tune...

kikibalt wrote:Tornado Sighting!
April 8, 2009 by Felipe Leon

The rumor swirling around Tijuana, MX, is that the former three time welterweight champion and SDFights.com #1 ranked Antonio “Tijuana Tornado” Margarito will be fighting in his hometown as soon as July of this year.

As we all know, Margarito along with his trainer and father figure Javier Capetillo are suspended by the California State Atlethic Commission and subsequently by every other state in the union for illegal hand wraps that were discovered prior to his loss of the WBA welterweight title at the fists of “Sugar” Shane Mosley last January.

“Yes, there is talks of me fighting here in Tijuana in the summer. They have said that it might be against Carlos Baldomir or a Russian,” Margarito said to me in passing a week and a half ago at “Tijuana Thunder”. “They want me to get ranked by the WBC so I can go after Andre Berto.”

The “they” mentioned could only be his promoters Top Rank and in the Mexico fight, Zanfer Promotions, the Mexican faction of the Arum empire.

As far as the Russian mentioned by the “Tijuana Tornado”, it might be WBC #9 ranked Ivan “The Terrible” Kirpa (23-1, 15KO). Baldomir is not currently ranked by the WBC as one of their top ten welterweights but at one point the Gaucho fighter was the WBC welterweight champion before being dethroned by Floyd Mayweather Jr.

It has been confirmed to exclusively to SDFights.com by an official of the Tijuana Boxing Comission that Zanfer Promotions does in fact have a date reserved for the summer.

After Margarito’s trainer Javier Capetillo worked the corner of “Panchito” Arce, Jorge “Travieso” Arce’s brother, earlier this year it has been said in the corridors of the state capitol that his license will not be reinstated by the CSAC in January of 2010 when his suspension is over.

The CSAS considers it a slap in the face for Capetillo to work a corner after he was suspended.

You can only speculate that the CSAC would feel the same way about Margarito fighting in July a mere ten minutes from the border that Mexico shares with the state that suspended him.

According to Bob Arum, Top Rank will not hold a promotion in the state of California as long as the comission up holds the suspension of the former champion.

I for one, would like to see Margarito fight again. Whether its in Tijuana or north of the border, that is a choice he and his team have to make. It is obvious that Margarito’s purse would be much higher in the United States and I find it hard to understand why Margarito would jeopardize higher pay in the future for the opportunity to fight in Tijuana.

He must have much to prove.

ME TOO

Antonio Margarito and his trainer dug themselves into a deep hole. The respect they lost with fans was shared by even a more bitterness. A loss of face within the boxing community.

I posted after the Mosley fight that I'd like to see Tony pick himself up after this. At first I was very upset by what he did. But what is this guy to do? Go around with a scarlet letter on his gloves all his life? For himself and his family,if nothing else,he has to try a comeback. Even if it is a dissapointment, he has to step into the ring again. He'll be clean this time. That will be a plus to start off with.

Tijuana is the best place to begin. He'll have the Tijuaneros in his corner. If he wins,then he proceeds. It's not a thing right now of winning back a championship. It's one step at a time.

Tony Margarito isn't the only fighter that's sinned inside the ropes. Didn't Sugar Shane have a little help with the needle with one of his fights? I want to see Tony come back. Winning the championship isn't important right now.

Tony's biggest victory will be over himself.

kikibalt wrote:

BoxBuzz wrote:The Song...yes....that rendition? No.....and that arrangement is as good as it gets!

That has always been my favored rendition of that tune...

Frank
It was good that you put up Charlie Christian.He was the first great electric guitar artist along with Les Paul who invented the instrument. Benny Goodman was very open minded about intergrating his orchestra. He performed with Charlie a lot. Later Lionel Hampton,Teddy Wilson,and Wardell Gray took their solos with Goodman.

Charlie Christian died young of TB. Had he lived we certainly would have heard more of his genius.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLz4vYCW97Y

Charlie Christian

SWING TO BOP

Mintons was a joint in Harlem that the cats would go to after the ballrooms in Manhattan closed. White and black musicians would take the bandstand at places like Minton's and Teddy's Hill

BoxBuzz wrote:.....I just put "stompin at the savoy" on my desktop. Thanks for that!

Hey Buzzer
Still got the good music goin' through your head? Me and Frank are keepin' our end up over here.