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Re: haye vs valuev round by round

Posted: 07 Nov 2009, 19:01
by BAMBI
From London...

i nearly fainted!! LOL

loved the anti climax!!


Ruiz v Haye next!!

Re: haye vs valuev round by round

Posted: 07 Nov 2009, 19:02
by 15829
you can tell kalle has got options to promote hayes next three fights, made up for haye but I had the same as the 1st judge 114-114

Re: haye vs valuev round by round

Posted: 07 Nov 2009, 19:03
by PompeyScot
Coco wrote:
tonyevs wrote:How can Haye get a decision so clearly .. when Dirrel who put on a better masterclass of the same tactics recently lost?

I`m just amazed he got that .. happy for him ... but truly amazed.

Us Brits have have a condecending view that we are the bastians of fair play, but the UK is probably the hardest place in the world to get treated right
Probably a fair point actually, thinking about it.

Re: haye vs valuev round by round

Posted: 07 Nov 2009, 19:03
by Floyd
U.F.O wrote:How pathetic was Valuev,
You can say that Haye was negitive all you like, but Valuev is one of the most one dimesion fighter in history
Valuev is 7 feet tall. In all honesty what more dimensions could he have at that size.

Re: haye vs valuev round by round

Posted: 07 Nov 2009, 19:04
by Wax On
Wooooooooo. Get the fook in. Wasn't sure he'd won it, nice to see the big wookie on queer street in the 12th. Well done David Haye. Exciting times ahead for British boxing goong forward. Which is more than David did tonight!!

Re: haye vs valuev round by round

Posted: 07 Nov 2009, 19:04
by Ilya Muromets
whicker wrote:
tonyevs wrote:How can Haye get a decision so clearly .. when Dirrel who put on a better masterclass of the same tactics recently lost.
Boxing judging is subjective- no deeper answer than that is needed.

Yeah, subjective. Subject to how much money passes under the table.

You don't win a championship belt by running away all night. As they say, BULLSHIT.

Re: haye vs valuev round by round

Posted: 07 Nov 2009, 19:04
by hurlock
about time!!!about time the krauts got shafted!!suppose it's handy having richard schaefar in the corner :wink:
haye well held back & im glad he got the nod :OhYes:

Re: haye vs valuev round by round

Posted: 07 Nov 2009, 19:05
by whicker
Where the judges FROM Germany? no?

Re: haye vs valuev round by round

Posted: 07 Nov 2009, 19:06
by Ilya Muromets
whicker wrote:Where the judges FROM Germany? no?

Makes no difference. Mafiya crosses borders. Money talks internationally with the mobsters.

Re: haye vs valuev round by round

Posted: 07 Nov 2009, 19:06
by dazzer
well done david haye still can not believe he rocked the giant

Re: haye vs valuev round by round

Posted: 07 Nov 2009, 19:06
by Ketchel
The same type of judges that loved Sven Ottke.

Re: haye vs valuev round by round

Posted: 07 Nov 2009, 19:07
by hurlock
golden boy :TU:

Re: haye vs valuev round by round

Posted: 07 Nov 2009, 19:07
by gemmell
BAMBI wrote:From London...

i nearly fainted!! LOL

loved the anti climax!!


Ruiz v Haye next!!

haye will destroy ruiz.haye was blatnetly injured and that is the only way to beat valuev in an ugly fight

Re: haye vs valuev round by round

Posted: 07 Nov 2009, 19:07
by Floyd
x2x wrote:
whicker wrote:Where the judges FROM Germany? no?

Makes no difference. Mafiya crosses borders. Money talks internationally with the mobsters.
Why do you even bother watching boxing then?

Re: haye vs valuev round by round

Posted: 07 Nov 2009, 19:09
by DG.
And the new!
:OhYes:

Re: haye vs valuev round by round

Posted: 07 Nov 2009, 19:10
by tonyevs
Both guys were cack to be honest.
But all Haye did from round 1 until round 12 was skit about pot-shotting. What a poor advert for championship heavyweight boxing.

I don’t go for conspiracies. But this fight does raise an eyebrow.
I’m very glad Haye won. Even though I don’t agree with the decision.

If Germany can be so fair and accommodating to a visiting boxer. Lets hope that one day Britain will be also. How good would it to have unbiased decisions and no booing of the visitors .. Or his national anthem.

Re: haye vs valuev round by round

Posted: 07 Nov 2009, 19:10
by SnoopyLoopy
luckily for haye the bent fat f*ck paul thomas wasn't judging. he's in the pocket of the germans (scoring dimitrenko vs chambers even).

i don't feel sorry for valuev, he lost to holyfield clearly and shouldn't have had the title.

Re: haye vs valuev round by round

Posted: 07 Nov 2009, 19:11
by Deno1986
Typical Valuev fight except he usually gets the decision. Bit strange after the final bell, Haye looked like he knew he won it and Valuev looked like he knew he lost which is strange when Valuev fights in Germany. Kalle Sauerland more or less ignored Valuev and was licking the hole of Haye. Mmmm conspiracy maybe, Kalle knows Haye is the moneymaker and I believe he has rights for his next few fights, almost like Haye got the hometown decision in Germany!! Well done to Haye though, looking forward to seeing him up against one of the Klits.

Re: haye vs valuev round by round

Posted: 07 Nov 2009, 19:16
by fluxstuff
If you can't see the difference between Dirrell's negative performance and Haye's defensive one, then you probably shouldn't try scoring the fights.

Haye wasn't especially active, but Valuev wasn't landing anything. Haye's shots were sharper and more effective.

There's no way to beat Valuev impressively - he's just so big and effective at what he does - it's always going to be nip and tuck. It was a close fight - why do people have to start shouting robbery all the time.

Re: haye vs valuev round by round

Posted: 07 Nov 2009, 19:18
by hurlock
all the pundits backed valuev ,but were sitting on the fence :!:

Re: haye vs valuev round by round

Posted: 07 Nov 2009, 19:18
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
I think Valuev just wasnt landing for the most part, you cant win rounds by not landing, nothing wrong with that decision but a terrible terrible viewing spectacle

Re: haye vs valuev round by round

Posted: 07 Nov 2009, 19:20
by Quixall
tonyevs wrote:Both guys were cack to be honest.
But all Haye did from round 1 until round 12 was skit about pot-shotting. What a poor advert for championship heavyweight boxing.

I don’t go for conspiracies. But this fight does raise an eyebrow.
I’m very glad Haye won. Even though I don’t agree with the decision.

If Germany can be so fair and accommodating to a visiting boxer. Lets hope that one day Britain will be also. How good would it to have unbiased decisions and no booing of the visitors .. Or his national anthem.
moan moan moan

How on earth you had that for valuev, I don't know

Re: haye vs valuev round by round

Posted: 07 Nov 2009, 19:20
by crusader
fluxstuff wrote:If you can't see the difference between Dirrell's negative performance and Haye's defensive one, then you probably shouldn't try scoring the fights.

Haye wasn't especially active, but Valuev wasn't landing anything. Haye's shots were sharper and more effective.

There's no way to beat Valuev impressively - he's just so big and effective at what he does - it's always going to be nip and tuck. It was a close fight - why do people have to start shouting robbery all the time.

Why don't you educate us than flux? They both landed more, hurt their man, and ran for the most part. What did Haye do that was so much different?

Re: haye vs valuev round by round

Posted: 07 Nov 2009, 19:21
by tonyevs
[quote="fluxstuff"]
If you can't see the difference between Dirrell's negative performance and Haye's defensive one, then you probably shouldn't try scoring the fights.

quote]

How is one regarded as negative and the other defensive? they were almost identical tactics.

Not get involved at all, and pot shot to steal rounds. Unless you watched something else of course?

Re: haye vs valuev round by round

Posted: 07 Nov 2009, 19:21
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
Quixall wrote:
tonyevs wrote:Both guys were cack to be honest.
But all Haye did from round 1 until round 12 was skit about pot-shotting. What a poor advert for championship heavyweight boxing.

I don’t go for conspiracies. But this fight does raise an eyebrow.
I’m very glad Haye won. Even though I don’t agree with the decision.

If Germany can be so fair and accommodating to a visiting boxer. Lets hope that one day Britain will be also. How good would it to have unbiased decisions and no booing of the visitors .. Or his national anthem.
moan moan moan

How on earth you had that for valuev, I don't know
Both guys didnt do much, I had it to Haye about 8-4, but he only slightly outlanded Valuev in most the rounds he won, he ran, threw about half the shots of the Russian and Valuev landed decent shots occasionally and worked the jab