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sg1985 wrote:Tillman is a disgrace.

Before we get too carried away we do tend to have 1 scorecard like that in each WT fight in this country, I think there was 1 wide scorecard in the Pascal fight.

117-111 was too much. I scored it 116-112, but can really see it no bigger than that.

I gave Carl only 1 of the first 8 rounds I gave him the 9,10 and 11 also.

I'm pleased for Kessler he showed the bottle that some people has said he lacks - However, not the same fighter.

Credit to Froch - showed his chin..... he looked pale and I wonder if he was healthy - he didn't really go for it enough.

I can see the athletic ability of Ward & Dirrell getting them to the final of this thing. Green hasn't fought in the tournament yet, but i've seen enough of him to know he's very hot and cold.

This fight actually makes me interested in seeing Froch vs Calzaghe, if Joe is really going to come back.

Autobarn wrote:now froch MUST beat abraham.

that could be a great fight. maybe the high stakes will bring something extra out of him.

Very tough situation for Froch. Has this fight taken anything out of him and we he be able to take shots like that from AA? What I do know is that this was an epic fight and both men are warriors. Froch talks a lot of BS, but my god does he put on a show.

Kessler won but Tillman is a disgrace

Froch seriously needs to change his style up now, forgot the whole hands down thing IT DOES NOT WORK AT WORLD LEVEL it's been proved, his low workrate and leaky defence has been found out, Froch needs to adapt to Plan B now.

Asterix wrote:This fight actually makes me interested in seeing Froch vs Calzaghe, if Joe is really going to come back.

why would Calzaghe come out of retirement now hes lost, it wouldnt be big box office. Froch needs to win his next fight to stay in the competition. Calzaghe will never happen

crusader wrote:

Autobarn wrote:now froch MUST beat abraham.

that could be a great fight. maybe the high stakes will bring something extra out of him.

Very tough situation for Froch. Has this fight taken anything out of him and we he be able to take shots like that from AA? What I do know is that this was an epic fight and both men are warriors. Froch talks a lot of BS, but my god does he put on a show.

Abraham will make Froch his bitch, imo.

supacook2k wrote:

Asterix wrote:This fight actually makes me interested in seeing Froch vs Calzaghe, if Joe is really going to come back.

why would Calzaghe come out of retirement now hes lost, it wouldnt be big box office. Froch needs to win his next fight to stay in the competition. Calzaghe will never happen

I was just expressing my interest. Nothing more. No need to dispute it.

I feel that Froch could have done more in many rounds. Some rounds he was just happy to walk backwards and flick out a lazy jab and that just won't win you the points especially abroad. He didn't really use that many of his usually heavy rights to follow up. I don't know if it was just bacause I was watching on a small screen but alot of Carl's punches didn't seem to have his usual sting in them.

But it's not over yet, it has just made the super six very close and interesting indeed.

Great fight, im not a froch fan but the mans been in some entertaining fights.

Kessler by 2 maybe 3 rounds imo.

Kessler is still my favourite to win the tourney looks like he's nearly shaken the career threatening ring rust off.

AA is too economic to deal with kessler and he is starting to look sharp and fast again.

I think however froch is made for AA who we all now is the biggest puncher in the tourney.

Ward - Kessler final?

Debate going on if Froch would have got this if it was in England ..?

Probably .. England is the new home of bad decisions :(

Froch lost this clearly

Erm, if we're talking about the rights and wrongs of scoring, hasn't Froch lost both fights in this Super Six so far? If the scores were perhaps too wide tonight, let's not forget that Froch got a clear home towner against Dirrell.

Froch really needs to come out and make a statement against Abraham. That fight is going to be huge.

Ward or Dirrell have got this thing wrapped up. They're leagues above the Euros.

Froch needs a rocket up his arse.
ive been waiting for him to get into gear and never did.
To much standing around.
Well done Kessler. Gutted carl didnt raise his game I thought he could but obviously not

supacook2k wrote:

Asterix wrote:This fight actually makes me interested in seeing Froch vs Calzaghe, if Joe is really going to come back.

why would Calzaghe come out of retirement now hes lost, it wouldnt be big box office. Froch needs to win his next fight to stay in the competition. Calzaghe will never happen

I agree. This wasn't just a Kessler win, but a Calzaghe win. For Joe this will justify not fighting Froch. He can sit back in the knowledge that he beat Mikkel and Froch didn't and then he can get stuck back into whatever he has been doing with his retirement, i wonder what that is?

Watching the last round again, Froch had it by a mile.

Not that it would have made much difference

Exciting (would Kessler fall apart? Was Froch swinging his elbows about so much because he was auditioning for a part in an amateur dramatics society "Impersonate a tree gently swaying in the breeze" competition? It kept me on the edge of my seat, I tell you) yet somehow not memorable brawl, as in I don't think I'd ever want to see it again.

Kessler won by at least three or four.

The metronomic regularity of his jab, the fact that he at least has a rudimentary defence & the straight rights underneath Carl's wild-swinging left elbow did it; Froch didn't have another gear to go up near the end. You could see it on his face. When he pushed Kessler back behind two-handed punching he was boss but just didn't have enough in the tank.

Good fight though, Froch as ever proved a willing milling cove & Kessler is rather less psychologically weak than I suspected him to be after the Ward debacle.

tonyevs wrote:Debate going on if Froch would have got this if it was in England ..?

Probably .. England is the new home of bad decisions :(

Froch lost this clearly

I cant see him getting the decision in england. Especially not with the way the judges scored the fight.

The dirrell fight was close - i thought dirrell won but in a hometown against a world champion - never in a month of sundays would he have got the decision fighting like that in that situation.

Had it about 8-4 rds to Kessler winning a tough but deserved victory. No way would Froch have won that decision in England unless it was a robbery, he needs to accept the loss as a man and move on.

Froch just didnt do enough to win the rounds clearly whilst Kessler did.

Still don't think Kessler is elite by an means but he was all heart tonight and gave it everything he had so well done to him.

Eraserhead wrote:
Ward or Dirrell have got this thing wrapped up. They're leagues above the Euros.

Agree

Abraham v Froch could go either way also. Abraham does so little, that maybe even another lazy guy like Froch could do that little bit more ... but Abraham has definetly got the punch to ko Froch at any time.

The blueprint has been layed out on how to beat Froch .. Kessler used nothing but the basics. A good jab, high defence and fitness.

Ward and Dirrel in the final.

dannyhalifax wrote:Kessler won but Tillman is a disgrace

spot on

rhino222 wrote:kessler by ud.... probably fair. either by 1 or 2 points

thats the way i had it - 2 points.

114-114 same way i scored froch-dirrell

tonyevs wrote: Ward and Dirrel in the final.

What fun that will be.

I loathe Dirrell