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Counter-puncher wrote:

orbtastic wrote:

Counter-puncher wrote: good question. that whole snowflake/ pixellated aesthetic doesn't do much for me.

looks even worse on a bigger/higher def TV.

yeah, in hindsight its a good job your bro's such a peasant, good point.

leforge wrote:

JimJim2009 wrote:Toks Owoh vs Tony Conquest for the Southern Area cruiserweight title.

That fight should be support to Mckenzie v Evans commonwealth fight rather than being on seprate shows.

Final round wrote:Can we merge the two allegedly threads?

Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:

Final round wrote:Can we merge the two allegedly threads?

Done

BIGMARK wrote:I understand why Frank and his team have done this but IMO it's looking short term more than long term especially as promoters like Meaty Mick now have broken onto to open TV and Matchrooms fan friendly/modern approach seems to be paying off.

iamasadlittleboy wrote:Rawling is garbage, Bunce annoy me and would Allegedly Channel please get some researchers so their staff stop making some school boy errors?

Amazingly I think some of these have come from Steve Lillis (who should know better!):
Prior to Donaire v Narvaez:
"Narvaez has never fought outside of Argentina" (He'd fought in France and Italy)
"Should they have let Narvaez out of Argentina earlier?" (They let him out of Argentina as early as 2002)
"Can Narvaez carry his power up, he has stopped 19 guys before" (Narvaez wasn't a power puncher at 115 so what power did they expect him to carry up to 118? He'd stopped 1 of his previous 6 opponents)

Talking about Chavez Jr:
"Chavez has defended his title once against Ryan Rhodes" (He'd also defended against Gomez)

During highlights of Glazkov v Peret:
"Peret fought Tyson Fury in a kilt" (It was Marcel Zeller who fought in a kilt)

During Melendez v Bahktin:
"I'd award Bahktin 120 points" (It was a 10 round fight)

Talking about Katsidis:
"Katsidis lost on points to Marquez" (Nope Marquez stopped him in the 9th round)

Talking after the Molitor fight:
"Get Quigg in with Molitor it'll get him a world ranking" (Quigg is ranked by 3 of the world bodies already)

Talking about Bute:
"The Super 6, these were all well known names, Bute weren't" (Bute was a hell of a lot more well known than Ward or Dirrell and was on par with Froch)


Whilst these are only little things they add up and you sort of wonder if they just say any old crap thinking everyone ill go "they know what they are talking about"

steve689 wrote:I reckon that whatever happens, it's going to be fun while it lasts, for however long that is.

My SKY+ has been clogged up for days now, there's almost too much boxing on at the moment. My missus is going nuts

steve689 wrote:I reckon that whatever happens, it's going to be fun while it lasts, for however long that is.

My SKY+ has been clogged up for days now, there's almost too much boxing on at the moment. My missus is going nuts

exittored wrote:

steve689 wrote:I reckon that whatever happens, it's going to be fun while it lasts, for however long that is.

My SKY+ has been clogged up for days now, there's almost too much boxing on at the moment. My missus is going nuts

Steve it's great to have you posting on boxrec again or at least a more regular basis, i joined in May 2003 and i always found your posts back then amongst the best and most spot on.

Back on topic, i think what Box notion really have to do to make this channel a success is to get it in as many pubs, nightclubs and casinos as possible. Obviously their subscription fee's will be alot more then £10 a month but a hell of a lot less then paying for premiership football which most places just can't afford nowadays.

I'd say to break even they'd probably need around 25,000 home subscribers plus around 5,000 bar/pub/casinos subscribers which they'd probably want by the end of june 2012, added to that is their income from advertising which must be pretty low at the moment.

That's around £1,000,000 revenue a month to run a tv channel which includes putting on 7 domestic small shows and 1 big one, added to that about 4 international boxing shows.

I guess people had the same fears about premiership football dying when it went exclusively to SKY Sports, although boxing won't be as big it could grow over the years and revive the sport again.

exittored wrote:

steve689 wrote:I reckon that whatever happens, it's going to be fun while it lasts, for however long that is.

My SKY+ has been clogged up for days now, there's almost too much boxing on at the moment. My missus is going nuts

Steve it's great to have you posting on boxrec again or at least a more regular basis, i joined in May 2003 and i always found your posts back then amongst the best and most spot on.

Back on topic, i think what Box notion really have to do to make this channel a success is to get it in as many pubs, nightclubs and casinos as possible. Obviously their subscription fee's will be alot more then £10 a month but a hell of a lot less then paying for premiership football which most places just can't afford nowadays.

I'd say to break even they'd probably need around 25,000 home subscribers plus around 5,000 bar/pub/casinos subscribers which they'd probably want by the end of june 2012, added to that is their income from advertising which must be pretty low at the moment.

That's around £1,000,000 revenue a month to run a tv channel which includes putting on 7 domestic small shows and 1 big one, added to that about 4 international boxing shows.

I guess people had the same fears about premiership football dying when it went exclusively to SKY Sports, although boxing won't be as big it could grow over the years and revive the sport again.

exittored wrote:Didn't even realise they were doing the whole BUTE vs JOHNSON card.

You have to give it to Warren, he making it very easy to subscribe to Allegedly channel at end of month. Good domestic and world boxing for a few pints, can't say NO to that.

leforge wrote:

exittored wrote:

steve689 wrote:I reckon that whatever happens, it's going to be fun while it lasts, for however long that is.

My SKY+ has been clogged up for days now, there's almost too much boxing on at the moment. My missus is going nuts

Steve it's great to have you posting on boxrec again or at least a more regular basis, i joined in May 2003 and i always found your posts back then amongst the best and most spot on.

Back on topic, i think what Box notion really have to do to make this channel a success is to get it in as many pubs, nightclubs and casinos as possible. Obviously their subscription fee's will be alot more then £10 a month but a hell of a lot less then paying for premiership football which most places just can't afford nowadays.

I'd say to break even they'd probably need around 25,000 home subscribers plus around 5,000 bar/pub/casinos subscribers which they'd probably want by the end of june 2012, added to that is their income from advertising which must be pretty low at the moment.

That's around £1,000,000 revenue a month to run a tv channel which includes putting on 7 domestic small shows and 1 big one, added to that about 4 international boxing shows.

I guess people had the same fears about premiership football dying when it went exclusively to SKY Sports, although boxing won't be as big it could grow over the years and revive the sport again.

Don't think pubs and bars will pay extra for a boxing channel.

iamasadlittleboy wrote:

exittored wrote:

steve689 wrote:I reckon that whatever happens, it's going to be fun while it lasts, for however long that is.

My SKY+ has been clogged up for days now, there's almost too much boxing on at the moment. My missus is going nuts

Steve it's great to have you posting on boxrec again or at least a more regular basis, i joined in May 2003 and i always found your posts back then amongst the best and most spot on.

Back on topic, i think what Box notion really have to do to make this channel a success is to get it in as many pubs, nightclubs and casinos as possible. Obviously their subscription fee's will be alot more then £10 a month but a hell of a lot less then paying for premiership football which most places just can't afford nowadays.

I'd say to break even they'd probably need around 25,000 home subscribers plus around 5,000 bar/pub/casinos subscribers which they'd probably want by the end of june 2012, added to that is their income from advertising which must be pretty low at the moment.

That's around £1,000,000 revenue a month to run a tv channel which includes putting on 7 domestic small shows and 1 big one, added to that about 4 international boxing shows.

I guess people had the same fears about premiership football dying when it went exclusively to SKY Sports, although boxing won't be as big it could grow over the years and revive the sport again.

Would the pay off of keeping it free long term and getting a higher viewership (and as a result better advertising payments) out weigh going subscription?...

BIGMARK wrote:

exittored wrote: Back on topic, i think what Box notion really have to do to make this channel a success is to get it in as many pubs, nightclubs and casinos as possible. Obviously their subscription fee's will be alot more then £10 a month but a hell of a lot less then paying for premiership football which most places just can't afford nowadays.
I'd say to break even they'd probably need around 25,000 home subscribers plus around 5,000 bar/pub/casinos subscribers which they'd probably want by the end of june 2012, added to that is their income from advertising which must be pretty low at the moment.
That's around £1,000,000 revenue a month to run a tv channel which includes putting on 7 domestic small shows and 1 big one, added to that about 4 international boxing shows.

I guess people had the same fears about premiership football dying when it went exclusively to SKY Sports, although boxing won't be as big it could grow over the years and revive the sport again.

I have always had the feeling that Sky are somehow involved with Allegedly channel. I know Bunce said they wouldn't let Sky fighters on his show but there seems a lot stuff going both ways. The Cleverley- Bellew fight was given coverage on Ringside and Tony was even a guest on Saturday fight night before the fight. Add this to the way that some boxing media / ex fighters are working on both channels something seems strange especially when Sky have never been so accommodating in the past.

IRLangmaid25 wrote:

exittored wrote:Didn't even realise they were doing the whole BUTE vs JOHNSON card.

You have to give it to Warren, he making it very easy to subscribe to Allegedly channel at end of month. Good domestic and world boxing for a few pints, can't say NO to that.

I did not either until I saw that the whole programme was 273minutes long and took up about 5% of the memory of my SkyPLus HD Box Box, which is not good when you consider that the Sky Box here at Langmaid Towers is usually hovering in the mid 30% of space left due to the we record alot of stuff in HD, especially with crap that my mum likes to watch such as Downton Abbey and I have got about two episodes of Boardwalk Empire to get rid off.

gobbles wrote:

leforge wrote:

exittored wrote: Steve it's great to have you posting on boxrec again or at least a more regular basis, i joined in May 2003 and i always found your posts back then amongst the best and most spot on.

Back on topic, i think what Box notion really have to do to make this channel a success is to get it in as many pubs, nightclubs and casinos as possible. Obviously their subscription fee's will be alot more then £10 a month but a hell of a lot less then paying for premiership football which most places just can't afford nowadays.

I'd say to break even they'd probably need around 25,000 home subscribers plus around 5,000 bar/pub/casinos subscribers which they'd probably want by the end of june 2012, added to that is their income from advertising which must be pretty low at the moment.

That's around £1,000,000 revenue a month to run a tv channel which includes putting on 7 domestic small shows and 1 big one, added to that about 4 international boxing shows.

I guess people had the same fears about premiership football dying when it went exclusively to SKY Sports, although boxing won't be as big it could grow over the years and revive the sport again.

Don't think pubs and bars will pay extra for a boxing channel.

Really? I know lots of pubs that pay for Racing UK

MachoMan09 wrote:Boxing's future in this country should be in the hands of the BBBofC and they should have enough foresight and clout to develop a suitable strategy to halt the decline of boxing and ideally initiate a re-growth. In my view they are far too weak an organisation.

exittored wrote:

bengulnaci1 wrote:Yeah but I have been ripped off by Warren's crap and PPV's for a long time. It feels strange having to give this man more money after the various piss poor events he got me to pay for years ago.

It's not Warrens channel, he's just the main promoter at the moment for the fights on the channel but the more the channel grows the more promoters will be brought to the channel.

Also remember Box notion will aslo be showing the best international cards from Goldenboy, Toprank, Dibella entertainment, Main Events, Gary shaw promotions and other promoters plus action from European, Japanese, Mexican and all around the world.