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Re: Berto/Soto Karass and Undercard RBR.
Posted: 27 Jul 2013, 23:44
by Rover
59-55 JSK
Re: Berto/Soto Karass and Undercard RBR.
Posted: 27 Jul 2013, 23:45
by CheckHook
Really wouldn't want to see Berto in with a legit puncher, he seems so fragile and way too easy to hit.
Re: Berto/Soto Karass and Undercard RBR.
Posted: 27 Jul 2013, 23:45
by lefty
Hunter: "You a bad son of a gun! You could whoop him with one hand!"

Re: Berto/Soto Karass and Undercard RBR.
Posted: 27 Jul 2013, 23:45
by gilgamesh
I don't see how Berto is going to be able to be effective enough in this bout for them to carry on with this.
5-1 JSK, Berto's corner doesn't need to let this carry on if he doesn't make some impact in the next round.
Re: Berto/Soto Karass and Undercard RBR.
Posted: 27 Jul 2013, 23:46
by lefty
Karass looking like he's slowing down a bit now.
Re: Berto/Soto Karass and Undercard RBR.
Posted: 27 Jul 2013, 23:48
by lefty
SouthpawStephen wrote:columbo wrote:Karass looking like he's slowing down a bit now.
His conditioning may be his downfall.
Yeah you did say that earlier huh!
Re: Berto/Soto Karass and Undercard RBR.
Posted: 27 Jul 2013, 23:48
by lefty
SouthpawStephen wrote:It looks like all those PEDs have gone to Berto's eyes.

Re: Berto/Soto Karass and Undercard RBR.
Posted: 27 Jul 2013, 23:48
by gilgamesh
I thought Berto won the 7th. Maybe they should let it keep going a minute.
68-65 JSK
Re: Berto/Soto Karass and Undercard RBR.
Posted: 27 Jul 2013, 23:49
by Rover
diddy wrote:Berto stinks. I don't care if he wins this fight. He stinks.
He's not an elite welter.
Re: Berto/Soto Karass and Undercard RBR.
Posted: 27 Jul 2013, 23:49
by Rover
68-65 JSK
Re: Berto/Soto Karass and Undercard RBR.
Posted: 27 Jul 2013, 23:50
by lefty
Rover wrote:diddy wrote:Berto stinks. I don't care if he wins this fight. He stinks.
He's not an elite welter.
Maybe he should up to 154. Slightly easier comp up there aside from Canelo and a few others.
Re: Berto/Soto Karass and Undercard RBR.
Posted: 27 Jul 2013, 23:52
by Rover
78-74 JSK
Re: Berto/Soto Karass and Undercard RBR.
Posted: 27 Jul 2013, 23:52
by gilgamesh
Give Berto credit, he's fighting like he knows he can't afford to lose this one.
78-74 JSK, Berto's in deep
Re: Berto/Soto Karass and Undercard RBR.
Posted: 27 Jul 2013, 23:53
by Rover
columbo wrote:Rover wrote:diddy wrote:Berto stinks. I don't care if he wins this fight. He stinks.
He's not an elite welter.
Maybe he should up to 154. Slightly easier comp up there aside from Canelo and a few others.
I don't think he'd be elite there either.
Re: Berto/Soto Karass and Undercard RBR.
Posted: 27 Jul 2013, 23:54
by lefty
columbo wrote:Rover wrote:diddy wrote:Berto stinks. I don't care if he wins this fight. He stinks.
He's not an elite welter.
Maybe he should up to 154. Slightly easier comp up there aside from Canelo and a few others.
I don't think he'd be elite there either.[/quote]

Probably not but the comp isnt quite as fierce as it is in the 147 weight class.
Re: Berto/Soto Karass and Undercard RBR.
Posted: 27 Jul 2013, 23:55
by SpecialGuest
Rover wrote:diddy wrote:Berto stinks. I don't care if he wins this fight. He stinks.
He's not an elite welter.

That's for sure! Elite fighters don't block every punch with their faces.
Re: Berto/Soto Karass and Undercard RBR.
Posted: 27 Jul 2013, 23:56
by gilgamesh
7 rounds to 2 Soto Karass
Tough break for Berto, but for what it's worth I thought he was down 2 rounds to 1 when he had two good arms.
Re: Berto/Soto Karass and Undercard RBR.
Posted: 27 Jul 2013, 23:56
by crusader
87-83 SK
Re: Berto/Soto Karass and Undercard RBR.
Posted: 27 Jul 2013, 23:56
by Rover
88-83 JSK
Re: Berto/Soto Karass and Undercard RBR.
Posted: 27 Jul 2013, 23:57
by lefty
gilgamesh wrote:7 rounds to 2 Soto Karass
Tough break for Berto, but for what it's worth I thought he was down 2 rounds to 1 when he had two good arms.
He hasnt looked like winning this fight from the beginning to me. He's had good little spells here and there but nothing special.
Re: Berto/Soto Karass and Undercard RBR.
Posted: 27 Jul 2013, 23:58
by Rover
@columbo
Some of the 154 comp
Floyd
Canelo
Trout
Cotto
Lara
Molina
Kirkland (maybe)
Angulo
Pretty fierce.
Re: Berto/Soto Karass and Undercard RBR.
Posted: 28 Jul 2013, 00:00
by crusader
96-93 SK
Re: Berto/Soto Karass and Undercard RBR.
Posted: 28 Jul 2013, 00:00
by BROZO
SouthpawStephen wrote:I'm not buying Berto's claimed injury.
agreed
Re: Berto/Soto Karass and Undercard RBR.
Posted: 28 Jul 2013, 00:01
by lefty
Rover wrote:@columbo
Some of the 154 comp
Floyd
Canelo
Trout
Cotto
Lara
Molina
Kirkland (maybe)
Angulo
Pretty fierce.
There is but guys like Trout and Molina arent the biggest hitters which would benefit Berto I think.
Re: Berto/Soto Karass and Undercard RBR.
Posted: 28 Jul 2013, 00:01
by gilgamesh
columbo wrote:gilgamesh wrote:7 rounds to 2 Soto Karass
Tough break for Berto, but for what it's worth I thought he was down 2 rounds to 1 when he had two good arms.
He hasnt looked like winning this fight from the beginning to me. He's had good little spells here and there but nothing special.
No, I had him losing even early in the fight when he had two good arms. He lost the 1st and 3rd rounds on my card, his shoulder trouble started in the 4th I think.
8 to 2 Now. Seems hopeless for Berto, but he's game.