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Lenny wrote:It's finally happened. There is more sense in 2 pages on the current scene thread on this than in 9 over here (although still with a few nut jobs)
It's a sad day

I had tickets to the original announced date and as I was coming over from Ireland lost money on the flights, hotel allowed cancellation beforehand so that was ok.

The real sickener to me and anyone else who had booked is the fact that with both the Fury and the Charr fights been cancelled Eventim do not refund booking fees which over both fights adds up to almost 500k and that figure doesn't include the un-refundable postage costs for each ticket holder

the picture does not indicate haye is verp poorly as has been described. he has an 02 cannulae sat slightly up his nose which just augments the air he breathes. his right arm is in a special combi sling type think. the drip in his left hand is capped which tells us he is drinking fluids etc ok.

as for 5 hours surgery.....complete, toss. A shoulder replacement takes 2 hours at most. the majority of minimally invasive shoulder types of surgery take 40 min - 90 min job. Im guessing the 5 hours if from leaving the ward and getting back there, thats realistic.

I'm lest vested than I used to be but I will point out to those who strongly believe Haye "obliterates" Fury, and those who proclaim its all about "levels" or perhaps point to Fury being knocked over by Cunningham.

Haye was on the floor from a cuff from the French cruiserweight on which most of his reputation has been built. That remains his signature performance.


I thought Valuev beat him, I didn't see the Sugar Ray Leonard genius everyone else applied to that performance.

Haye is a brave guy. He fought Valuev, took some guts for a Cruiser except a 45 year old Holyfield had already done it and got jobbed. So did Ruiz and of course the fella with hepitatus did it with far more engagement than Haye...before Haye.

Beyond that what do we have, Barrett, Bonin, Harrison, Chisora and his sham versus Klitschko. Murderers row. Michael Sprott could beat the first three now.

But all that aside, and even accepting the consensus that Haye is faster, hits harder, more experienced, better pedigree etc - it doesn't mean shit if his hearts not in it.

And one thing you can say about Fury - regardless of opponent, his preparation, fitness, lack of experience etc - he loves a fight and is the best fighter I've seen when he's fucked. Think he has natural reserves of guts Haye, at this point, simply doesn't have.

Don't doubt Haye's injured.

But I think he fancies ONE more FIGHT with all the PRIZES on the line and Haye KNOWS his body is failing and his heart isn't in it.

Fury doesn't offer PRIZES or an easy knock over.

Time to sort the shoulder out once and for all. Fight Klitschko in May just before the World Cup.

Why didn't Price take the money and fight him on Channel 5?

Was it because Price was busy accumulating about 9 fights in three years on Sky?

Just heard Peter Fury interviewed on Talksport.

Main points :

Haye sent his poorly picture to the press.

The press phoned Mick Hennessy who in turn phoned the Fury's yesterday to let them know that the fight was off !

Peter Fury said that they never expected the fight to go ahead.

He said that the only way that Fury could get out of his contractual obligation to fight Tyson was via injury.

He reckons that there has been an issue for a while and now Haye has taken this opportunity to get it sorted now.

He also did not say that Haye was scared of Fury, but that he reckons Haye will not retire. He believes that Haye has been offered a fight with Vitali and this has promprted his actions.

He ended the interview by saying that Fury / Haye will never happen.

Not only that, but no "Team Fury" boxer will ever fight a "Team Hay/Booth" boxer.

I'm not Fury's biggest fan but I have to say I do feel for him here.

He was basically a week away from earning £5m prior to Haye's first pull out and now the fight isn't happening at all. God knows how much the guy must have spent on that Belgian training camp also. Probably about £100k at least when sparring fees, travel costs, gym costs etc are factored in.

Sickening for Fury.

Teddy's Toupee wrote:No, a joke's a joke but palooka doesn't use brothels and his neighbours don't run a crack-house/of ill-repute. He does work hard and he is a thoughtful individual (who has skysports).

Oh but they do and the Sky Sports remark is the pertinent point

SteveDow wrote:I'm not Fury's biggest fan but I have to say I do feel for him here.

He was basically a week away from earning £5m prior to Haye's first pull out and now the fight isn't happening at all. God knows how much the guy must have spent on that Belgian training camp also. Probably about £100k at least when sparring fees, travel costs, gym costs etc are factored in.

Sickening for Fury.

I am Fury's biggest fan, but I'm rational enough to know that Haye has lashed the cash on training camps just the same. Fury chartered a jet and hired a fleet of Rollers, that's his problem, not Haye's.

Grafton Acrylic wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:I am Fury's biggest fan

I thought Horse was Fury's "biggest fan" ?

Horse

The difference is, I'm not blinded by it. I've been saying Fury is a future world champion since I first saw him.

But the difference is that Haye has probably made about 15-20m in his career whereas Fury would barely have made a tenth of that and probably will never get the chance again. He certainly wouldn't earn anything like 5m if he fought a Klitschko without a belt.

By the way, I feel sorry for Haye also but I'm just saying I feel for Fury since he's missed out on the payday of a lifetime.

SteveDow wrote:But the difference is that Haye has probably made about 15-20m in his career whereas Fury would barely have made a tenth of that and probably will never get the chance again. He certainly wouldn't earn anything like 5m if he fought a Klitschko without a belt.

By the way, I feel sorry for Haye also but I'm just saying I feel for Fury since he's missed out on the payday of a lifetime.

I feel sorry for both of them too mate. They've both just seen the biggest payday available to them disappear. I don't see either of them getting £5,000,000 for fighting anyone else.

bripez wrote:Just heard Peter Fury interviewed on Talksport.

Main points :

Haye sent his poorly picture to the press.

The press phoned Mick Hennessy who in turn phoned the Fury's yesterday to let them know that the fight was off !

Peter Fury said that they never expected the fight to go ahead.

He said that the only way that Fury could get out of his contractual obligation to fight Tyson was via injury.

He reckons that there has been an issue for a while and now Haye has taken this opportunity to get it sorted now.

He also did not say that Haye was scared of Fury, but that he reckons Haye will not retire. He believes that Haye has been offered a fight with Vitali and this has promprted his actions.

He ended the interview by saying that Fury / Haye will never happen.

Not only that, but no "Team Fury" boxer will ever fight a "Team Hay/Booth" boxer.

I could believe that Haye has had an underlying shoulder injury and has decided to get it fixed now in order to get him out of a fight with fury if he has been offered a fight with one of the klitschkos. That doesnt sound in anyway mental conspiracy theorising to me.

Big question is do David Haye fans care if Haye is pulling out of a fight with Fury to fight Vitali Klitschko instead? because i sure as hell dont, i honestly believe Fury was just a hand picked opponent by the hayemaker camp and the fight was a mismatch anyway (the betting odds reflect that) and my sole reason for not buying tickets was because i didnt think it would go past 5 or 6 rounds. Sure it would have been entertaining in the novelty sense but Haye v Vitali is a proper fight.

If someone said to me right now pick a fight to watch Haye v Fury or Haye v Vitali Klitschko i would be booking tickets to germany thats for sure.

Finn wrote:

bripez wrote:Just heard Peter Fury interviewed on Talksport.

Main points :

Haye sent his poorly picture to the press.

The press phoned Mick Hennessy who in turn phoned the Fury's yesterday to let them know that the fight was off !

Peter Fury said that they never expected the fight to go ahead.

He said that the only way that Fury could get out of his contractual obligation to fight Tyson was via injury.

He reckons that there has been an issue for a while and now Haye has taken this opportunity to get it sorted now.

He also did not say that Haye was scared of Fury, but that he reckons Haye will not retire. He believes that Haye has been offered a fight with Vitali and this has promprted his actions.

He ended the interview by saying that Fury / Haye will never happen.

Not only that, but no "Team Fury" boxer will ever fight a "Team Hay/Booth" boxer.

I could believe that Haye has had an underlying shoulder injury and has decided to get it fixed now in order to get him out of a fight with fury if he has been offered a fight with one of the klitschkos. That doesnt sound in anyway mental conspiracy theorising to me.

Big question is do David Haye fans care if Haye is pulling out of a fight with Fury to fight Vitali Klitschko instead? because i sure as hell dont, i honestly believe Fury was just a hand picked opponent by the hayemaker camp and the fight was a mismatch anyway (the betting odds reflect that) and my sole reason for not buying tickets was because i didnt think it would go past 5 or 6 rounds. Sure it would have been entertaining in the novelty sense but Haye v Vitali is a proper fight.

If someone said to me right now pick a fight to watch Haye v Fury or Haye v Vitali Klitschko i would be booking tickets to germany thats for sure.

Well I went to Germany to watch Haye so can tell you from experience, don't do it. He did nothing all night and then started crying about his toe. Anyone who goes over for that, unless its just for a piss up, is mad. He doesn't even have a punchers chance with Vitali.

Finn wrote:

bripez wrote:Just heard Peter Fury interviewed on Talksport.

Main points :

Haye sent his poorly picture to the press.

The press phoned Mick Hennessy who in turn phoned the Fury's yesterday to let them know that the fight was off !

Peter Fury said that they never expected the fight to go ahead.

He said that the only way that Fury could get out of his contractual obligation to fight Tyson was via injury.

He reckons that there has been an issue for a while and now Haye has taken this opportunity to get it sorted now.

He also did not say that Haye was scared of Fury, but that he reckons Haye will not retire. He believes that Haye has been offered a fight with Vitali and this has promprted his actions.

He ended the interview by saying that Fury / Haye will never happen.

Not only that, but no "Team Fury" boxer will ever fight a "Team Hay/Booth" boxer.

I could believe that Haye has had an underlying shoulder injury and has decided to get it fixed now in order to get him out of a fight with fury if he has been offered a fight with one of the klitschkos. That doesnt sound in anyway mental conspiracy theorising to me.

Big question is do David Haye fans care if Haye is pulling out of a fight with Fury to fight Vitali Klitschko instead? because i sure as hell dont, i honestly believe Fury was just a hand picked opponent by the hayemaker camp and the fight was a mismatch anyway (the betting odds reflect that) and my sole reason for not buying tickets was because i didnt think it would go past 5 or 6 rounds. Sure it would have been entertaining in the novelty sense but Haye v Vitali is a proper fight.

If someone said to me right now pick a fight to watch Haye v Fury or Haye v Vitali Klitschko i would be booking tickets to germany thats for sure.

It doesn't sound like a mental conspiracy theory to me either though I'd not watch Haye again though I'm not really a fan of his.

Haye's career @ HW has been extremely anti-climactic.

keithmoonhangover wrote:

Grafton Acrylic wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:I am Fury's biggest fan

I thought Horse was Fury's "biggest fan" ?

Horse

The difference is, I'm not blinded by it. I've been saying Fury is a future world champion since I first saw him.

You also said Povetkin was going to knock out Klitschko aswell though to be fair