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Re: Cardiff RBR
Posted: 17 May 2014, 17:15
by Final round
gilgamesh wrote:Final round wrote:gilgamesh wrote:Good performance for Cleverly, it was another particularly quick stoppage, but it seemed inevitable nonetheless.
Nevertheless good Cleverly looks good at Cruiserweight. I can see him having some success there.
tbf I think Corbin had taken enough, so fair stoppage. Up to that point though I'm not sure Cleverley looked like he had much CW poke in his punch..
I don't think it would've made any difference to the outcome of the fight if Corbin had been allowed to stick around so I won't argue with you, but this explains why so many of you guys think the Arreola-Stiverne 2 stoppage was too late. You guys are used to referees jumping the gun, and stopping fights very early. Basically at the first or second sign of a guy being stunned.
I would have stopped Arreola after the second KD, he could barely stand up straight. Corbin was finished nothing early about it.
Re: Cardiff RBR
Posted: 17 May 2014, 17:18
by gilgamesh
Final round wrote:gilgamesh wrote:
That's very true. I've only seen Tony a few times, but he's never really impressed me much. I think Cleverly could take him.
He already has done ;;-)
Well he could do it again

Re: Cardiff RBR
Posted: 17 May 2014, 17:19
by lefty
FFS i missed the thing where Froch pulled Groves across the table lol
Re: Cardiff RBR
Posted: 17 May 2014, 17:20
by gilgamesh
Final round wrote:
I would have stopped Arreola after the second KD, he could barely stand up straight. Corbin was finished nothing early about it.
I won't argue with that, but I don't feel like he took all that much punishment after rising from the 2nd knockdown he only got hit with about 3 or 4 more clean shots after that out of about 9 or 10, but I certainly wouldn't be calling for Jack Reiss to be banned from the sport or anything like some fans did. I felt like the stoppage was reasonably done, and it was a VERY high stakes fight so there was a lot on the line. Understandable that Reiss gave Arreola a fighting chance.
I don't have any real problem with the stoppage in Cleverly vs Corbin. It just seems like early stoppages are the norm in the UK.
Re: Cardiff RBR
Posted: 17 May 2014, 17:21
by gilgamesh
columbo wrote:FFS i missed the thing where Froch pulled Groves across the table lol
I did too. That sounds f*cking crazy. Blows HBO's "Face Off" shows away

Re: Cardiff RBR
Posted: 17 May 2014, 17:23
by lefty
Have you seen Lee Selby before, Gil?
Re: Cardiff RBR
Posted: 17 May 2014, 17:27
by Boxing Prospect
What do we know about this Mexican chap?
Re: Cardiff RBR
Posted: 17 May 2014, 17:27
by Final round
gilgamesh wrote:Final round wrote:
I would have stopped Arreola after the second KD, he could barely stand up straight. Corbin was finished nothing early about it.
I won't argue with that, but I don't feel like he took all that much punishment after rising from the 2nd knockdown he only got hit with about 3 or 4 more clean shots after that out of about 9 or 10, but I certainly wouldn't be calling for Jack Reiss to be banned from the sport or anything like some fans did. I felt like the stoppage was reasonably done, and it was a VERY high stakes fight so there was a lot on the line. Understandable that Reiss gave Arreola a fighting chance.
I don't have any real problem with the stoppage in Cleverly vs Corbin. It just seems like early stoppages are the norm in the UK.
Yeah we do have a early stoppage rep and rightly so in some bad cases. I agree with you the calling for Jack Reiss to be banned was overboard but as a ref the boxers health is in their hands and timing is crucial. Arreola looked finished after kd 2with nothing else to offer and that was exactly the case, I suppose the extra few punches just underlined it for people but they weren't entirely necessary..
Sometimes the ref has to stick his neck out and end the show. for the fighters sakes. Not the fans.
Re: Cardiff RBR
Posted: 17 May 2014, 17:27
by lefty
Boxing Prospect wrote:What do we know about this Mexican chap?
Sod all.
Re: Cardiff RBR
Posted: 17 May 2014, 17:29
by Boxing Prospect
I felt Arreola should have been stopped after the second knockdown and thing Corbin just gave up so no complain here...though I tend to dislike fighters in the chief support who don't turn up to win...
Re: Cardiff RBR
Posted: 17 May 2014, 17:31
by lefty
Hallings commentary in unbearable.
Re: Cardiff RBR
Posted: 17 May 2014, 17:32
by lefty
Still think Donaire would do a number on Selby although I think the latter does have decent ability.
Re: Cardiff RBR
Posted: 17 May 2014, 17:32
by Boxing Prospect
columbo wrote:Still think Donaire would do a number on Selby although I think the latter does have decent ability.
Donaire's not gonna get past Vetyeka ;)
Re: Cardiff RBR
Posted: 17 May 2014, 17:37
by lefty
I wonder how Selby would fare against Marvin sonsona.
Re: Cardiff RBR
Posted: 17 May 2014, 17:42
by gilgamesh
Boxing Prospect wrote:columbo wrote:Still think Donaire would do a number on Selby although I think the latter does have decent ability.
Donaire's not gonna get past Vetyeka ;)
Hey how about that. Someone else is picking Vetyeka?

Re: Cardiff RBR
Posted: 17 May 2014, 17:42
by lefty
I'm not convinced that Selby is a legitimate world class fighter to be honest.
Re: Cardiff RBR
Posted: 17 May 2014, 17:43
by lefty
gilgamesh wrote:Boxing Prospect wrote:columbo wrote:Still think Donaire would do a number on Selby although I think the latter does have decent ability.
Donaire's not gonna get past Vetyeka ;)
Hey how about that. Someone else is picking Vetyeka?

In all honesty I can really comment! I havent got round to watching Vetyeka yet. I missed the John fight.
Re: Cardiff RBR
Posted: 17 May 2014, 17:44
by Boxing Prospect
Think I was the only one to have money on V12 to beat John!
Think the Yordan performance was better though
Re: Cardiff RBR
Posted: 17 May 2014, 17:45
by lefty
Boxing Prospect wrote:Think I was the only one to have money on V12 to beat John!
Think the Yordan performance was better though
What kind of fighter is he?
Re: Cardiff RBR
Posted: 17 May 2014, 17:47
by chad
Boxing Prospect wrote:What do we know about this Mexican chap?
He's a pretty boy who probably gets more fanny than I do
Re: Cardiff RBR
Posted: 17 May 2014, 17:48
by Final round
chad wrote:Boxing Prospect wrote:What do we know about this Mexican chap?
He's a pretty boy who probably gets more fanny than I do
How much do you get exactly?
Re: Cardiff RBR
Posted: 17 May 2014, 17:49
by lefty
chad wrote:Boxing Prospect wrote:What do we know about this Mexican chap?
He's a pretty boy who probably gets more fanny than I do
Well that's not hard....
Re: Cardiff RBR
Posted: 17 May 2014, 17:49
by Boxing Prospect
columbo wrote:Boxing Prospect wrote:Think I was the only one to have money on V12 to beat John!
Think the Yordan performance was better though
What kind of fighter is he?
Against Yordan he was a boxer-move against John he looked more like an in the pocket boxer IIRC. He's a clever counter puncher though can be made to look lazy. Think a bit of a hybrid who can do a lot depending on the opponent though. I'd avoid his fight with Hasegawa as both were...looking for the other to lead.
Re: Cardiff RBR
Posted: 17 May 2014, 17:50
by ShadrachSimmo
columbo wrote:I'm not convinced that Selby is a legitimate world class fighter to be honest.
He's not. It's as simple as that.
Re: Cardiff RBR
Posted: 17 May 2014, 17:51
by Boxing Prospect
Selby looked amazing against British opponents but...yeah...he doesn't look great here despite the commentators sucking him off