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buster007 wrote:I believe it looks like he is shaking his head in being annoyed at being put on his ass.

nobody here knows what was said or whether geale could comprehend what exactly the ref said.

the fact the ref had to help him to stay on his feet, and his eyes were gone, tell me he was in queer land and did not quit.

some people just prefer to label him a quitter without really knowing.

The way I saw it was, Daniel is back on his feet at approx 4. The ref continues the count to 8, he then instructs Daniel " come to me ''. He repeats twice more " come to me ''. On the third request by the ref Daniel shakes his head. The Ref has no option fight over.
Was Daniel shaking his head in the universal sign of NO because he was pissed off, maybe.
I believe Daniel was concussed and had no idea what was going on. Glad the ref stopped it. It would have got ugly.

It's astonishing really, what if Mayweather did the same thing as Geale did in the GGG fight and shake his head and refs stops his fight against Mosley , i guarantee all these Aussie posters would be ridiculing Mayweather calling him a quitter etc.

Heaven forbid an Aussie Golden boy quits

Axl wrote:

buster007 wrote:I believe it looks like he is shaking his head in being annoyed at being put on his ass.

nobody here knows what was said or whether geale could comprehend what exactly the ref said.

the fact the ref had to help him to stay on his feet, and his eyes were gone, tell me he was in queer land and did not quit.

some people just prefer to label him a quitter without really knowing.

The way I saw it was, Daniel is back on his feet at approx 4. The ref continues the count to 8, he then instructs Daniel " come to me ''. He repeats twice more " come to me ''. On the third request by the ref Daniel shakes his head. The Ref has no option fight over.
Was Daniel shaking his head in the universal sign of NO because he was pissed off, maybe.
I believe Daniel was concussed and had no idea what was going on. Glad the ref stopped it. It would have got ugly.

A fighter who has just been smashed by a big puncher like GGG, struggles to his feet and is noticeably disoriented is a soft target for armchair experts. It was inconclusive what Geale was thinking and how many referees he was seeing during that 5 seconds or so the referee had to assess him and adjudicate the fight should be stopped.

Kelandbeave wrote:It's astonishing really, what if Mayweather did the same thing as Geale did in the GGG fight and shake his head and refs stops his fight against Mosley , i guarantee all these Aussie posters would be ridiculing Mayweather calling him a quitter etc.

Heaven forbid an Aussie Golden boy quits

The facts are that Golovkin dropped him with a solid shot. Geale gets to his feet. The referee checks on him and asked Geale if he can continue. Geale shakes his head NO. They are the facts.

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Axl wrote:

buster007 wrote:I believe it looks like he is shaking his head in being annoyed at being put on his ass.

nobody here knows what was said or whether geale could comprehend what exactly the ref said.

the fact the ref had to help him to stay on his feet, and his eyes were gone, tell me he was in queer land and did not quit.

some people just prefer to label him a quitter without really knowing.

The way I saw it was, Daniel is back on his feet at approx 4. The ref continues the count to 8, he then instructs Daniel " come to me ''. He repeats twice more " come to me ''. On the third request by the ref Daniel shakes his head. The Ref has no option fight over.
Was Daniel shaking his head in the universal sign of NO because he was pissed off, maybe.
I believe Daniel was concussed and had no idea what was going on. Glad the ref stopped it. It would have got ugly.

A fighter who has just been smashed by a big puncher like GGG, struggles to his feet and is noticeably disoriented is a soft target for armchair experts. It was inconclusive what Geale was thinking and how many referees he was seeing during that 5 seconds or so the referee had to assess him and adjudicate the fight should be stopped.

Not it's not, he shook his head, it hurts i know, but you need to get over it.

Looks like Geale was not 158lbs a month out from the fight.... Francis was right and the so called experts wrong.

“I wish it was true,” Geale says with a laugh before putting the rumors to bed, “I was well over 158.”

1. If Geale has no intention of continuing the bout, he stays down, gets counted out, fight over.
2. Geale is up at 4. Instinct and pride kick in. Clear indication he wants to continue.
AT NO POINT did the ref ask if Geale wanted to continue. Geale was asked to come forward to the ref so the ref could assess his condition.
He was asked three times to come forward to the ref. On the third time he shakes his head, ref interprets this as either; I can't continue or
I don't understand whats happening, Ref has no option, fight over. Good stoppage.
We all know what would have happened if the ref continues the fight. Even Geale knew, he offered no protest at the stoppage.
Concussion reactions are different. From my experience you struggle to comprehend what exactly just happened.
I believe Geale was heavily concussed and cannot be judged by his immediate reactions.

Francis75 wrote:

Kelandbeave wrote:It's astonishing really, what if Mayweather did the same thing as Geale did in the GGG fight and shake his head and refs stops his fight against Mosley , i guarantee all these Aussie posters would be ridiculing Mayweather calling him a quitter etc.

Heaven forbid an Aussie Golden boy quits

The facts are that Golovkin dropped him with a solid shot. Geale gets to his feet. The referee checks on him and asked Geale if he can continue. Geale shakes his head NO. They are the facts.

Very factual statement there. The way I saw it was he got to his feet, was shaking his head in frustration or and the ref stopped the bout. Either way the end was inevitable but dont for one minute call Geale a quitter. A quitter stays down for the ten count.

Kelandbeave wrote:Looks like Geale was not 158lbs a month out from the fight.... Francis was right and the so called experts wrong.

“I wish it was true,” Geale says with a laugh before putting the rumors to bed, “I was well over 158.”

The "so called experts" are Fight Network, the source of the information:

WBC middleweight Champion Miguel Cotto (39-4-0, 32 KOs) fights Daniel Geale (31-3, 16 KOs), on June 6 in Brooklyn, New York.

The Champion was 164.8 lbs, while the title contender was 158 lib. The limit of the division is 160lib.

http://fightnetwork.com/news/55940:cott ... -weigh-in/

Funny how one minute your attitude is:
"Every boxer lies so i don't take notice of pre-fight interviews from anyone regardless if i like them or not."

Yet next minute you are quoting and believing a fighter in Geale:
“I wish it was true,” Geale says with a laugh before putting the rumors to bed, “I was well over 158.”

Just proves my point, you can't believe anyone. Thanks for the apology

Kelandbeave wrote:Just proves my point, you can't believe anyone. Thanks for the apology

I just proved how you make blanket statements one minute and then totally contradict them, and yourself, the next

Like a Boss wrote:

Kelandbeave wrote:Just proves my point, you can't believe anyone. Thanks for the apology

I just proved how you make blanket statements one minute and then totally contradict them, and yourself, the next

Kid you are clutching at straws, take boxers statements with a grain of salt, allow yourself to think outside the square

Kelandbeave wrote:

Like a Boss wrote:

Kelandbeave wrote:Just proves my point, you can't believe anyone. Thanks for the apology

I just proved how you make blanket statements one minute and then totally contradict them, and yourself, the next

Kid you are clutching at straws, take boxers statements with a grain of salt, allow yourself to think outside the square

Careful you don't continue to contradict yourself

kid this, kid that?

u will be hard pressed to find someone who will bother having a discussion with u if u keep patronizing them like this.

Kelandbeave wrote:Looks like Geale was not 158lbs a month out from the fight.... Francis was right and the so called experts wrong.

“I wish it was true,” Geale says with a laugh before putting the rumors to bed, “I was well over 158.”

Yep they should NEVER doubt what Francis says.

Of course 158 a month before the fight was complete nonsense and some believed it. Unbelieveable.

Francis75 wrote:

Kelandbeave wrote:Looks like Geale was not 158lbs a month out from the fight.... Francis was right and the so called experts wrong.

“I wish it was true,” Geale says with a laugh before putting the rumors to bed, “I was well over 158.”

Yep they should NEVER doubt what Francis says.

Of course 158 a month before the fight was complete nonsense and some believed it. Unbelieveable.

"The Champion was 164.8 lbs, while the title contender was 158 pounds. The limit of the division is 160 pounds".

http://fightnetwork.com/news/55940:cott ... -weigh-in/

Take your grievances up with Fight Network

The WBC where Daniel Geale will contest the title against Miguel Cotto on June 6th, have Geale rated at #6:

Champion . Miguel Cotto

Interim Champion . Gennady Golovkin

1 . Jorge Sebastian Heiland (Argentina) INTL
2 . Tureano Johnson (US) SILVER
3 . Billy Joe Saunders (GB) COMM/BBB C
4 . Sergio Martinez (Argentina)
5 . Martin Murray (GB)
6 . Daniel Geale (Australia)
7 . Ryota Murata (Japan)
8 . Sergio Mora (US)
9 . Jonathan Gonzalez (P. Rico)
10 . Arif Magomedov (Russia)
11 . Curtis Stevens (US)
12 . Tony Jeter (US) FECARBOX
13 . Andrey Meryasev (Russia) BALTIC
14 . Avtandil Khurtsidze (Ukraine)
15 . Dominic Wade (US)

http://wbcboxing.com/wbceng/ratings?layout=edit&id=145

The WBA currently have Daniel Geale rated #7:

Super Champion : Gennady Golovkin
World Champion : Daniel Jacobs

1. Chris Eubank Jnr.
2. Willie Monroe Jnr.
3. Arif Magomedov
4. Caleb Truax
5. Dmitry Chudinov
6. Tureano Johnson
7. Daniel Geale
8. Billy Joe Saunders
9. David Lemieux
10. Martin Murray
11. Sergio Mora
12. Domenic Wade
13. Les Sherrington
14. Antoine Douglas
15. Tony Jeter

(note Sherro at 13)

http://www.wbanews.com/wba-ranking

Daniel Geale Embarks on New Jersey Training Camp

WBC title contender, Aussie Daniel Geale (31-3, 16 KO´s) who's slated to fight WBC middleweight Champion Miguel Cotto (39-4, 32 KO´s) is already working away in the US for their New York bout on June 6th.

During the next weeks, Geale will be training in North Bergen, New Jersey.

“I'm here in the United States with my working team. I'm excited for this new opportunity, and that's why we will have a really tough training camp in New Jersey,” Daniel promised.

"Gary Shaw has get me a great gym and I'm going to start sparring immediately.

I'll tune back in at the weigh in, other than that, I'm giving this thread a wide berth

took u 8 pages to decide huh? lol.

Kelandbeave wrote:I'll tune back in at the weigh in, other than that, I'm giving this thread a wide berth

We wait with baited breath, for your positive and yet "matter of fact" opinions, and continuous ignorance to bare facts.

Thanks for the permission......who is the man of 131 posts ? And why does he think he's of importance.

Contribution 0!

Geale needs to put a clinic on as people have stated, and is conceivable if he is honestly still relevant.

Here's my take on his last 5 or so fights, and why his dropped a SD, and rounds in his wins when he shouldn't have.

He's fighting still toe to toe, and not moving and setting and breaking the rhythm of his opponent when he's thrown his 5 or 6 punch combo, and catching them when he moves and they trying to leave a receipt, this is where he use to break fighters down.

He needs to fight all 12 rounds, his last 5 fights are indicative of the fact he's taken every 3 or so rounds off allowing his opponent a chance to not only get back into the fight, but allowing a case for judges to score the round against him, nothing left in the tank is exactly the approach he needs to take, if in fact others are right.

Forget Germany here, This is the US, where he has no wins there as of yet, I believe he beat Barker, or at least Barker didn't take the title from him, but hey, i'm not claiming insurance, however Geale has himself to blame for letting it get that close and for not closing the fight out in the 6th. I also said Barker would without doubt not live up to champion standard and loss in his first defence, I was right.

How he beats Cotto: Setup punch's 5 or 6 combo's, and move, loading up when Cotto try's to close in and offer a reciet, and move again, offer no chance for cotto to hit him more than 10 times a round, which he has the footwork to do, and frustrate him for 8 rounds solid. Do what you will there after but there can be no rounds taken off and output moderate to heavy, with Geale using size difference for distance, agility and effective aggression.

Today's presser

Geale will host a New York City media workout as he makes preparations for his title challenge against Puerto Rican legend
Cotto.

WHEN: Tuesday, May 19, 2015

TIME: 11:30 AM ET - Media Check In

12:00 PM ET - Workout Begins

WHERE: Mendez Boxing Gym

23 East 26th Street New York, NY

Axl wrote:

buster007 wrote:I believe it looks like he is shaking his head in being annoyed at being put on his ass.

nobody here knows what was said or whether geale could comprehend what exactly the ref said.

the fact the ref had to help him to stay on his feet, and his eyes were gone, tell me he was in queer land and did not quit.

some people just prefer to label him a quitter without really knowing.

The way I saw it was, Daniel is back on his feet at approx 4. The ref continues the count to 8, he then instructs Daniel " come to me ''. He repeats twice more " come to me ''. On the third request by the ref Daniel shakes his head. The Ref has no option fight over.
Was Daniel shaking his head in the universal sign of NO because he was pissed off, maybe.
I believe Daniel was concussed and had no idea what was going on. Glad the ref stopped it. It would have got ugly.

Tend to agree this gif(3rd version)shows Geale reeling backwards into the ropes. He was probably disorientated and didn't know there was only 20 odd seconds left in the round.

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