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Re: Tommy Hearns Vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr
Posted: 16 Dec 2017, 15:12
by elmersalsa
Kalan wrote: ↑14 Dec 2017, 14:46
golden oldie wrote: ↑14 Dec 2017, 06:12
Name these " PLENTY " of 147 - 154 fighters that Hearns failed to KO
You can't read moron... I said there's plenty Welterweights, Super Welterweights, and Middleweights Hearns failed to KO.
Starting with the Welterweights he failed to KO, there's: Alfonso Hayman.... Ray Leonard.... Mike Colbertt.... Wilfred Benitez.... Luigi Minchillo.... Earnie Singletary.... Doug DeWitt.... Marvin Hagler.... Murry Sutherland.... etc.
Hearns failed to KO opponents in 19 fights... Leonard failed to KO 15.... Hager failed to KO 15.... Iran Barkley failed to KO 36 of his opponents....which is MOST of his opponents....but he got rid of Hearns in 3 rounds by stretching the China-chin.... Mayweather owns a higher KO ratio than Barkley... Hearns was a lot weaker at 147 than 160---but got knocked out at both weights. Mayweather was never knocked off his feet.... knocked down.... knocked out.... or beaten.
Wilfred Benitez was certainly a China-chin who got blasted out of his career at an early age because he couldn't hang with punchers and was easy to hit.... Leonard floored Benitez with a jab which Hearns lacked the power to do... Hearns also lacked the power to KO Benitez, - who was knocked out by 2nd raters who few people have ever heard of.
The Hitman broke his right hand in the Benitez' fight. He beat Benitez much easier than Sugar Ray. He used the jab very well.
Re: Tommy Hearns Vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr
Posted: 16 Dec 2017, 16:45
by Kalan
Nonsense.... Leonard battered Benitez, knocked him down with a powerful left jab, and stopped him.
Hearns won a Majority Decsion and Leonard scored a KO.... He softened Benitez up for Hearns.
Re: Tommy Hearns Vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr
Posted: 16 Dec 2017, 19:25
by Controversial
elmersalsa wrote: ↑16 Dec 2017, 15:12
The Hitman broke his right hand in the Benitez' fight. He beat Benitez much easier than Sugar Ray. He used the jab very well.
Yes from round 8 onwards Hearns fought pretty much one handed, he hardly threw his right.
Re: Tommy Hearns Vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr
Posted: 17 Dec 2017, 21:53
by Kalan
Controversial wrote: ↑16 Dec 2017, 19:25
elmersalsa wrote: ↑16 Dec 2017, 15:12
The Hitman broke his right hand in the Benitez' fight. He beat Benitez much easier than Sugar Ray. He used the jab very well.
Yes from round 8 onwards Hearns fought pretty much one handed, he hardly threw his right.
Poor tender handed Tommy.... Breaking his hands on the head of Wilfred Benitez and failing to stop him??? .... I can see Tommy breaking his hands on Hagler's steel knob... but Benitez was knocked out a few times, so it makes you wonder.
Floyd has a very hard head....though he didn't try to drive it through a brick wall like Hagler
Re: Tommy Hearns Vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr
Posted: 17 Dec 2017, 23:08
by Kalan
golden oldie wrote: ↑17 Dec 2017, 22:12
Kalan wrote: ↑17 Dec 2017, 21:53
Floyd has a very hard head....though he didn't try to drive it through a brick wall like Hagler
For someone who loves to cry FOUL, particularly when it comes to Lewis turning Klitchko's face into Pizza, why would you want Mayflower to use his HEAD against another fighter to gain an advantage?
Just asking.
Having cuts on your left eyelid and cheek... both ripped open from a single palm slash... doesn't make you a pizza face.
Floyd was never noted for head butting Dumb Dumb.... He used his head for THINKING not a speed bag for Hagler.
Mayweather was known for making butts out of guys who couldn't defend the incoming -- such as Hearns...
Re: Tommy Hearns Vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr
Posted: 19 Dec 2017, 04:50
by Kalan
You can't read idiot... I said Floyd DIDN'T try to drive [his head] through a brick wall like Hagler [DID]
And Lewis's fouls on Vitali can be seen on the video with the first 2 right hand punches Lewis threw in the 3rd... He was looking to inflict cuts and open them,.. Hence, with Vitali winning the fight on all scorecards he should have won by TD 6.
Re: Tommy Hearns Vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr
Posted: 19 Dec 2017, 10:48
by IKSRTFO
Kalan wrote: ↑17 Dec 2017, 23:08
golden oldie wrote: ↑17 Dec 2017, 22:12
Kalan wrote: ↑17 Dec 2017, 21:53
Floyd has a very hard head....though he didn't try to drive it through a brick wall like Hagler
For someone who loves to cry FOUL, particularly when it comes to Lewis turning Klitchko's face into Pizza, why would you want Mayflower to use his HEAD against another fighter to gain an advantage?
Just asking.
Having cuts on your left eyelid and cheek... both ripped open from a single palm slash... doesn't make you a pizza face.
Floyd was never noted for head butting Dumb Dumb.... He used his head for THINKING not a speed bag for Hagler.
Mayweather was known for making butts out of guys who couldn't defend the incoming -- such as Hearns...
The Vaseline between rounds was going right through his eyelid. You could've stuck your finger through those holes.
Re: Tommy Hearns Vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr
Posted: 20 Dec 2017, 19:50
by Kalan
The Klitschko Bros retired sitting on 50 million or more each old-n-moldie... And Joshua will make 10 X that at the very least... Of course you think everybody who's much better off mentally, emotionally, financially, and appearance wise than yourself is a fukking idiot you jealous, hateful bastard... You save your idolatry for a B-movie star who got his ass whipped by a rusted out Welterweight who was coming off a 3-year-layoff with no tuneup fights...
The top Middleweights looked so big, threatening and powerful at that point that the beaten Hagler fled into retirement.
Re: Tommy Hearns Vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr
Posted: 21 Dec 2017, 02:32
by Kalan
Hagler did.... He effectively retired after Leonard boxed his ass off... He never fought again...
Leonard did fight... cleverly picking his spots over the next few years to get max return out of min risk.
Re: Tommy Hearns Vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr
Posted: 21 Dec 2017, 10:32
by Ambling Alp II
Bringing back that old chestnut are we?
Re: Tommy Hearns Vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr
Posted: 26 Dec 2017, 22:38
by rolobor
how can i view old fights?
Re: Tommy Hearns Vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr
Posted: 26 Dec 2017, 23:08
by gilgamesh
They're not hard to find. Try Youtube
Re: Tommy Hearns Vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr
Posted: 27 Dec 2017, 15:41
by Kalan
golden oldie wrote: ↑21 Dec 2017, 14:09
Kalan wrote: ↑21 Dec 2017, 02:32
Hagler did.... He effectively retired after Leonard boxed his ass off... He never fought again...
Leonard did fight... cleverly picking his spots over the next few years to get max return out of min risk.
A month after Hagler's formal retirement in June 1988 Leonard would announce another comeback.
Only in a perverted mind could retirements of convenience to avoid any perceived threat, be classed as " clever "
Which might well explain why you have so much admiration for boxings second best known ducker Floyd Mayflower.
Boxing is a business more than a sport... There are clever boxers - and there are clever businessmen...
Everyone wanted to fight Leonard and Mayweather because of the money was so big - so they got to pick and choose who they wanted to fight.... Most of it's image building.... Foreman probably did the best job of this in his 2nd career....
George became everybody's favorite uncle... a perpetually smiling, joking, laid back individual who became huge box office... He never would have gotten the Moorer fight otherwise because he stepped in front of a lot of higher ranked Heavyweights who wanted Moorer... George defended the Title against guys of his own choosing -- like Crawford Grimsley and the Heavyweight Title soon became splintered up again...
But it made no difference to the public... Foreman was still introduced on Talk Shows as "OK folks, we have a very special guest tonight... Please give a warm welcome to the Heavyweight Champion of the World - GEORGE FOREMAN!!!"
I don't like the business aspect of Boxing or the favoritism .... but you have to admire guys who are that slick at it.
Re: Tommy Hearns Vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr
Posted: 28 Dec 2017, 00:45
by NateJR
Not going to find many people as high on Floyd as yours truly. With that being said, Hearns is the worst stylistic matchup possible for Floyd. A tall rangy guy with a excellent jab, who can box, yet knock you out with one shot. I don't see Floyd beating Hearns. I will give Floyd credit and say his great defense carries him to see the final bell, but I have a hard time seeing him beating the naturally bigger and rangier fighter.
Floyd Uncle Rodger said it himself, to beat Floyd you need a great jab. You don't beat Floyd without a great jab. Hearns was a master of using the jab and setting up big shots behind it.
Re: Tommy Hearns Vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr
Posted: 29 Dec 2017, 15:19
by Kalan
There're a lot of British Talk Shows as well.... They're low budget and generate tons of money for the hosts.... and publicity for stars who need to get their names, faces, and personalities out there while boosting their box office appeal... The North American Market is HUGE and getting bigger... Canny operators take advantage of it... Oprah is a billionaire.
Leonard, Mayweather, and Foreman were 3 of the shrewdest businessmen to come along in the sport.
Re: Tommy Hearns Vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr
Posted: 30 Dec 2017, 05:12
by Kalan
Ali has a great legacy with his stand against the insanely stupid Viet Nam War.... In the "Land of the Free" you have freedom of choice, and that boosted his popularity more than anything.... It's a shame he couldn't defend himself better and avoid so many punches to the head so his speech wasn't impaired.... He might have been as big a commercial success as George Foreman.... Anthony Joshua might do even better if he gets into the American market.
Re: Tommy Hearns Vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr
Posted: 30 Dec 2017, 08:43
by Tomasino
golden oldie wrote: ↑18 Dec 2017, 08:19
Kalan wrote: ↑17 Dec 2017, 23:08
golden oldie wrote: ↑17 Dec 2017, 22:12
For someone who loves to cry FOUL, particularly when it comes to Lewis turning Klitchko's face into Pizza, why would you want Mayflower to use his HEAD against another fighter to gain an advantage?
Just asking.
Having cuts on your left eyelid and cheek... both ripped open from a single palm slash... doesn't make you a pizza face.
Floyd was never noted for head butting Dumb Dumb.... He used his head for THINKING not a speed bag for Hagler.
Mayweather was known for making butts out of guys who couldn't defend the incoming -- such as Hearns...
I fukking love it. Now you are even arguing with you own description of Mayweather's hard head and his ability to drive it through brick walls. Keep licking the windows numpty.
The most hilarious part of your arrogant imbecility is if Vitali Klitchko himself told you that Lennox DIDN'T thumb his eye, or slash his face with the palm of the glove, you would tell him he doesn't know what the fuk he is talking about. Which is why you are seen as a sick joke by most on here.
Then again I suppose you could always impress him with some cock and bull story about killing Tommy Hearns with one punch, because of course he would definitely be gullible enough to believe you.
If Vitali gave Big Kolon any back chat he’d knock him spark with a back hander, the way Wilt used to treat him back in the day...
Re: Tommy Hearns Vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr
Posted: 30 Dec 2017, 22:22
by Kalan
Any big Heavyweight with a very strong chin can absorb a middleweight's punch.... Golovkin has never been wobbled by anybody in his own weight division... What's a Featherweight going to do for him jackass???