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Not a fan of Northcutt yet to be honest. Too groomed, not a proper fighter yet. I'm sure with his athletic ability he'll be back in a big way but there'll be manier tough MFs thinking they'll have the beating of him if they can test his heart.

The Rumble fight was a disappointment. Bader's takedown attempt was desperate. Should have moved around a bit on the feet first. Didn't want to take punches from Rumble standing so ended up Getting KO'd on the mat.

danamba7 wrote:Not a fan of Northcutt yet to be honest. Too groomed, not a proper fighter yet. I'm sure with his athletic ability he'll be back in a big way but there'll be manier tough MFs thinking they'll have the beating of him if they can test his heart.

The Rumble fight was a disappointment. Bader's takedown attempt was desperate. Should have moved around a bit on the feet first. Didn't want to take punches from Rumble standing so ended up Getting KO'd on the mat.

Probably pretty terrifying for anyone to stand with Rumble for any amount of time. The dude is ferocious.

Problem with the LHW division is that there's too clear a hierarchy now:

1. Jones
2. Cormier
3. Rumble
4. Bader

There's a pretty huge gap between each of them. Makes for a pretty unexciting division.

Impractical Poster wrote:

danamba7 wrote:Not a fan of Northcutt yet to be honest. Too groomed, not a proper fighter yet. I'm sure with his athletic ability he'll be back in a big way but there'll be manier tough MFs thinking they'll have the beating of him if they can test his heart.

The Rumble fight was a disappointment. Bader's takedown attempt was desperate. Should have moved around a bit on the feet first. Didn't want to take punches from Rumble standing so ended up Getting KO'd on the mat.

Probably pretty terrifying for anyone to stand with Rumble for any amount of time. The dude is ferocious.

Very true. But it was a poor TD attempt from a good wrestler. Mind you Rumble is too so just a better fighter all round.

jujigatame wrote:Problem with the LHW division is that there's too clear a hierarchy now:

1. Jones
2. Cormier
3. Rumble
4. Bader

There's a pretty huge gap between each of them. Makes for a pretty unexciting division.

True whereas it used to be one of the most stacked 5-6 years ago.

I wonder when Jones is coming back. Even with Jones the division is stale, without him it's even worse.

jujigatame wrote:Problem with the LHW division is that there's too clear a hierarchy now:

1. Jones
2. Cormier
3. Rumble
4. Bader

There's a pretty huge gap between each of them. Makes for a pretty unexciting division.

Gustaf is still an interesting fighter. Very close fights with 1 and 2 but obviously he got smashed by Rumble. Still I have him above Bader anyway.

Deadendgeneration wrote:

jujigatame wrote:Problem with the LHW division is that there's too clear a hierarchy now:

1. Jones
2. Cormier
3. Rumble
4. Bader

There's a pretty huge gap between each of them. Makes for a pretty unexciting division.

Gustaf is still an interesting fighter. Very close fights with 1 and 2 but obviously he got smashed by Rumble. Still I have him above Bader anyway.

Glover is still an interesting top guy as well.

Bendo has official signed with Bellator. That awful Reebok deal strikes again.

jujigatame wrote:Problem with the LHW division is that there's too clear a hierarchy now:

1. Jones
2. Cormier
3. Rumble
4. Bader

There's a pretty huge gap between each of them. Makes for a pretty unexciting division.

Gustaffson is surely above Bader, even if he is 1-3 in his last 4. Was very unlucky not to get the decision against Jones, and a very narrow loss to Cormier. There was some rumors of him fighting Rashad Evans a while back, that'd be an interesting fight at this point

jujigatame wrote:Bendo has official signed with Bellator. That awful Reebok deal strikes again.

Its sad but true, it's been a test that needed to happen at some stage to see if a major brand could work well in a big organisation and unfortunately its going to damage the UFC while its in place.

But the more it hits them the better it benefits the other organisations like Bellator, RIZIN, ONE championship, KSW, BAMMA, they get the names that get sick of the reebok deal so in a way its working for everyone else.

Impractical Poster wrote:

danamba7 wrote:Not a fan of Northcutt yet to be honest. Too groomed, not a proper fighter yet. I'm sure with his athletic ability he'll be back in a big way but there'll be manier tough MFs thinking they'll have the beating of him if they can test his heart.

The Rumble fight was a disappointment. Bader's takedown attempt was desperate. Should have moved around a bit on the feet first. Didn't want to take punches from Rumble standing so ended up Getting KO'd on the mat.

Probably pretty terrifying for anyone to stand with Rumble for any amount of time. The dude is ferocious.

Its staggering when you think a few years ago the man was competing at welterweight, as soon as he let himself fight at a comfortable weight the man became a force to reckoned with.

northern wrote:

jujigatame wrote:Bendo has official signed with Bellator. That awful Reebok deal strikes again.

Its sad but true, it's been a test that needed to happen at some stage to see if a major brand could work well in a big organisation and unfortunately its going to damage the UFC while its in place.

But the more it hits them the better it benefits the other organisations like Bellator, RIZIN, ONE championship, KSW, BAMMA, they get the names that get sick of the reebok deal so in a way its working for everyone else.

This stinks. I hope this thing gets sorted out before more fighters jump ship. As a fan, I want all the top fighters under one roof.

northern wrote:

Impractical Poster wrote:

danamba7 wrote:Not a fan of Northcutt yet to be honest. Too groomed, not a proper fighter yet. I'm sure with his athletic ability he'll be back in a big way but there'll be manier tough MFs thinking they'll have the beating of him if they can test his heart.

The Rumble fight was a disappointment. Bader's takedown attempt was desperate. Should have moved around a bit on the feet first. Didn't want to take punches from Rumble standing so ended up Getting KO'd on the mat.

Probably pretty terrifying for anyone to stand with Rumble for any amount of time. The dude is ferocious.

Its staggering when you think a few years ago the man was competing at welterweight, as soon as he let himself fight at a comfortable weight the man became a force to reckoned with.

Yeah. I'm glad he's up at this weight. He's a monster. And now that he's taking his wrestling seriously, he just may get that title. I still want to see Bones/Rumble.

Impractical Poster wrote:
Yeah. I'm glad he's up at this weight. He's a monster. And now that he's taking his wrestling seriously, he just may get that title. I still want to see Bones/Rumble.

Hey I agree with you completely too, Bones vs. Rumble would be the must buy PPV for the year for me.
I think Jones would edge it but there's always that question could Johnson stop jones via KO or dominate him as a wrestler

Impractical Poster wrote:

northern wrote:

jujigatame wrote:Bendo has official signed with Bellator. That awful Reebok deal strikes again.

Its sad but true, it's been a test that needed to happen at some stage to see if a major brand could work well in a big organisation and unfortunately its going to damage the UFC while its in place.

But the more it hits them the better it benefits the other organisations like Bellator, RIZIN, ONE championship, KSW, BAMMA, they get the names that get sick of the reebok deal so in a way its working for everyone else.

This stinks. I hope this thing gets sorted out before more fighters jump ship. As a fan, I want all the top fighters under one roof.

Have to admit I'm a fan of the big fights that could happen if they were all under one banner but at the same time I'm not a fan of business coming first, this Reebok deal interferes, the men at the top interfere and it ruins the sport because the big fights never happen.

The fights I'm hoping for next in the UFC is McGregor vs. Edgar, Aldo vs. Sanchez at lightweight or Aldo vs. Swanson at featherweight, Nick Diaz vs. Matt Brown, Bisping vs. Rockhold (if Bisping can beat Silva), Jones vs Johnson, Gustaffson vs bader, Arlvoski vs rothwell

northern wrote:

Impractical Poster wrote:

northern wrote:
Its sad but true, it's been a test that needed to happen at some stage to see if a major brand could work well in a big organisation and unfortunately its going to damage the UFC while its in place.

But the more it hits them the better it benefits the other organisations like Bellator, RIZIN, ONE championship, KSW, BAMMA, they get the names that get sick of the reebok deal so in a way its working for everyone else.

This stinks. I hope this thing gets sorted out before more fighters jump ship. As a fan, I want all the top fighters under one roof.

Have to admit I'm a fan of the big fights that could happen if they were all under one banner but at the same time I'm not a fan of business coming first, this Reebok deal interferes, the men at the top interfere and it ruins the sport because the big fights never happen.

The fights I'm hoping for next in the UFC is McGregor vs. Edgar, Aldo vs. Sanchez at lightweight or Aldo vs. Swanson at featherweight, Nick Diaz vs. Matt Brown, Bisping vs. Rockhold (if Bisping can beat Silva), Jones vs Johnson, Gustaffson vs bader, Arlvoski vs rothwell

Good list but I'd take Bisping Rockhold out. I like Bisping but not sure he gets past Silva and if he does, I think Rockhold beats him comfortably again.

I'd also add El Cucuy Vs Khabib.

Impractical Poster wrote:

northern wrote:

jujigatame wrote:Bendo has official signed with Bellator. That awful Reebok deal strikes again.

Its sad but true, it's been a test that needed to happen at some stage to see if a major brand could work well in a big organisation and unfortunately its going to damage the UFC while its in place.

But the more it hits them the better it benefits the other organisations like Bellator, RIZIN, ONE championship, KSW, BAMMA, they get the names that get sick of the reebok deal so in a way its working for everyone else.

This stinks. I hope this thing gets sorted out before more fighters jump ship. As a fan, I want all the top fighters under one roof.

I agree, that's the problem with boxing, too much completion, now usually that's a good thing, just Not in combat sports, boxing- too many weight classes, promotors and world titles, it just ruins everything.
That being said, this reebok deal seems toxic, zuffa need to do something about it ASAP, before it does anymore damage.
How long does the deal last for does anyone know ?

Dana White has commented on the Bendo situation, saying the deal the UFC offered him was far superior on the condition that he won a title. Then of course he goes on to say Bendo is a great guy and he wishes him luck.

It's like he can't help himself from being a passive-aggressive tool. The guy is 32 years old, on the downside of his career but still borderline top 10 at 170 and borderline top 5 at 155. As good as he is, there's little chance of him winning a title again. But you make him sound like some sort of coward because he wants guaranteed money instead of a contract full of incentives he'll never make?

Henderson vs. Koreshkov signed for a Bellator card in April.

Good fight, I got Henderson by decision.

The fighters to watch in Bellator are Liam Mcgeary and Michael Page. I feel both of these guys would compete very well in the UFC. Page would be especially beneficial for Dana to sign.

Impractical Poster wrote:The fighters to watch in Bellator are Liam Mcgeary and Michael Page. I feel both of these guys would compete very well in the UFC. Page would be especially beneficial for Dana to sign.

Michael Page an ex semi contact points fighter, hands down style, fast as you like and flashy, would be great to see him in the UFC see how he handles the top grapplers?

Page is very exciting. A bit of a bum-crusher in his own right but that's forgivable considering he's only been in the sport a few years. His next opponent (Fernando Gonzalez) is a solid step up, too.

McGeary I'm not 100% sold on. It's good to see a guy who attacks so aggressively off his back, but his last 2 fights were not super impressive victories. I think Davis will absolutely dominate him.

jujigatame wrote:Page is very exciting. A bit of a bum-crusher in his own right but that's forgivable considering he's only been in the sport a few years. His next opponent (Fernando Gonzalez) is a solid step up, too.

McGeary I'm not 100% sold on. It's good to see a guy who attacks so aggressively off his back, but his last 2 fights were not super impressive victories. I think Davis will absolutely dominate him.

You're right. Unfortunately, like most Brits at the moment, they may fall short at the highest level. I had high hopes for Manuwa, but he didn't even put up much of a fight against the top guys. Disappointing. Till and Page have potential but I still don't see a UFC champ from the UK. Shame because if it really blows up here, the UFC will have another Ireland.

I read a article today saying Roy Nelson has been fighting for 26k purses at times, and has only made around 900,000 in his entire career, I gotta say that's pretty fucked up.