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I totally agree. Trying to tie it simplistically to a blanket term like 'genetics' is bunk.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

ikorolev wrote:

Killer Kovalev wrote:I don;t know any sports that Blacks are better than whites at there hardly any.
Sprinting.. that't it.. but that comes under the umbrella of Athletics
Basketball ... maybe.

Whereas name the sports that Whites are better than Blacks at and we'd be here all day.

American football, basketball and track are the most popular sports in the U.S. not requiring expensive equipment at early stages, and they are all dominated by blacks.

This guy is a racist moron. Dont waste your breath ikorolev. Im putting him on ignore.

I think hes said enough to warrant a ban surely?

I agree. Also, he just spammed the forum with stupid threads.

Killer Kovalev wrote:Ikorolev your excuses about equipment and all that are total joke, I'm guessing your whole life s one big joke full of ifs/ coulds/maybes

Why can't you just accept that some races just aren't as good at other races at things.... Why can't you reamin in the present and not constantly look for pathetic excuses.

theres more black boxers than whites... yet whites have way more world champions.....
thats a stat. Not an if/ but /or maybe/ shoulda /would /coulda. equipment/20 years ago/ poverty/ popular/didn;t have porridge for breakfast/every excuse unde the sun

LOl any country in the world could say other sports are the reason for not producing as good boxers as they'd like, but only USA has stooped that low

Other boxing forums would have laughed you off with your outdated excuses that have been proven to be very wrong....

Why just narrow it to race? Let's drill further down to nations. Russians suck at soccer, that must be some national disability. Ukranians suck at hockey. It must be that mix of Polish and Turk blood which makes them so bad.

update. since i am one of the biggest boxing experts in the world and able to predict the future i will do so.

vasyl is gonne turn out as the best featherweight ever. while he hasnt as much firepower as salvador sanchez, i still feel prime vs prime he would beat him. i would see more difficulties against for example prince, cause of vasyl fast forward style running into a big punch and getting tkod by prince. but since prime prnce got technicly outclassed by barrera and vasyl is easily on the same level technicly as barrera, but yet with more power and way more athletic, i would favour vasyl over prince too.

as far as super flyweight and bantam, inoue is a super rare talent, this dude is the future of boxing, future p4p king. way too athletic for jofre or galaxy. dont get me wrong galaxy would have a puncher chance, cause he had featherweight kind of power, but overall inoue over anybody at that weight.

Heavyweight-Mike Tyson
Cruiserweight-Juan Carlos Gomez
Light Heavyweight-Roy Jones Jr.
Super Middleweight-Roy Jones Jr.
Middleweight-Roy Jones Jr.
Super Welterweight-Sugar Ray Robinson
Welterweight-Sugar Ray Robinson
Super Lightweight-Manny Pacquiao
Lightweight-Manny Pacquiao
Super Featherweight-Manny Pacquiao
Featherweight-Vasyl Lomachenko
Super Bantamweight-Guillermo Rigondeaux
Bantamweight-Naoya Inoue
Super Flyweight-Naoya Inoue
Flyweight-Roman Gonzales
Light Flyweight-Michael Carbajal
Minimumweight-Ricardo Lopez

HW John Ruiz
CR BJ Flores
LH Reggie Strickland
SM James Butler
M Morrade Hakkar
SW Ronald Wright
W Dick Eklund
SL Emanuel Augustus
L Richar Abril

... Just kidding.

Chepppaaa wrote:Heavyweight-Mike Tyson
Cruiserweight-Juan Carlos Gomez
Light Heavyweight-Roy Jones Jr.
Super Middleweight-Roy Jones Jr.
Middleweight-Roy Jones Jr.
Super Welterweight-Sugar Ray Robinson
Welterweight-Sugar Ray Robinson
Super Lightweight-Manny Pacquiao
Lightweight-Manny Pacquiao
Super Featherweight-Manny Pacquiao
Featherweight-Vasyl Lomachenko
Super Bantamweight-Guillermo Rigondeaux
Bantamweight-Naoya Inoue
Super Flyweight-Naoya Inoue
Flyweight-Roman Gonzales
Light Flyweight-Michael Carbajal
Minimumweight-Ricardo Lopez

wow,

man wrote:

Chepppaaa wrote:Heavyweight-Mike Tyson
Cruiserweight-Juan Carlos Gomez
Light Heavyweight-Roy Jones Jr.
Super Middleweight-Roy Jones Jr.
Middleweight-Roy Jones Jr.
Super Welterweight-Sugar Ray Robinson
Welterweight-Sugar Ray Robinson
Super Lightweight-Manny Pacquiao
Lightweight-Manny Pacquiao
Super Featherweight-Manny Pacquiao
Featherweight-Vasyl Lomachenko
Super Bantamweight-Guillermo Rigondeaux
Bantamweight-Naoya Inoue
Super Flyweight-Naoya Inoue
Flyweight-Roman Gonzales
Light Flyweight-Michael Carbajal
Minimumweight-Ricardo Lopez

wow,

This is the worst list ever on Boxrec
Beyond pathetic

You may as well just put Manny at every weight. 1 fight each at 35 & 40 was all it took!

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

ikorolev wrote:Kovalev was joking, and you are serious. If anything, blacks may be more talented in sports than whites. Your statement about Africa is wrong. The problem U.S. is facing is that talented blacks are going into football and basketball, as you can earm money easier in those sports, and they are way more popular than boxing.

Theres so many factors at play. Talented at what? Why do so many young black men in the U.S go into sport for instance? The lack of success in boxing fot african nations is mainly lack of facilities and opportunity though there have of course been some highly successful black african boxers.

Probably because of poverty rates among black Americans. (Not trying to be racist, just stating facts.)

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:You may as well just put Manny at every weight. 1 fight each at 35 & 40 was all it took!

young roy jones had not many fights at 154 at the beginning of his career, yet due too his super athletiscm & speed he would surely have beaten anybody, yes anybody.

i said it 100000 times, i will say it again: skills and physic beat opponents, not record, resume.

Chepppaaa wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:You may as well just put Manny at every weight. 1 fight each at 35 & 40 was all it took!

young roy jones had not many fights at 154 at the beginning of his career, yet due too his super athletiscm & speed he would surely have beaten anybody, yes anybody.

i said it 100000 times, i will say it again: skills and physic beat opponents, not record, resume.

Absolutely no way RJJ is top 5 at MW or LHW. Garbage list. Not that I expected any different from you.

Heavyweight - Joe Louis
Light Heavyweight - Archie Moore
Super Middleweight- Joe Calzaghe
Middleweight- Harry Greb
Welterweight - Jimmy McLarnin
Lightweight - Tony Canzoneri
Featherweight - Willie Pep
Bantamweight - Eder Jofre

VG_Addict wrote:

Chepppaaa wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:You may as well just put Manny at every weight. 1 fight each at 35 & 40 was all it took!

young roy jones had not many fights at 154 at the beginning of his career, yet due too his super athletiscm & speed he would surely have beaten anybody, yes anybody.

i said it 100000 times, i will say it again: skills and physic beat opponents, not record, resume.

Absolutely no way RJJ is top 5 at MW or LHW. Garbage list. Not that I expected any different from you.

question for you?

who would you favour in a fight, 91 jones vs hearns/mccallum at 154?

VG_Addict wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

ikorolev wrote:Kovalev was joking, and you are serious. If anything, blacks may be more talented in sports than whites. Your statement about Africa is wrong. The problem U.S. is facing is that talented blacks are going into football and basketball, as you can earm money easier in those sports, and they are way more popular than boxing.

Theres so many factors at play. Talented at what? Why do so many young black men in the U.S go into sport for instance? The lack of success in boxing fot african nations is mainly lack of facilities and opportunity though there have of course been some highly successful black african boxers.

Probably because of poverty rates among black Americans. (Not trying to be racist, just stating facts.)

Precisely - there are many factors at play. Sport has often been seen as a way out in the U.S for young men from black communities. The collegiate system offers scholarships and opportunities for huge earning potential to young athletes.