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Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - Postponed

Posted: 05 Jul 2016, 14:29
by wesshaw1985

Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - October 29th 2016

Posted: 05 Jul 2016, 14:46
by Exoddus
How can they fight in October? What's going to happen with Tyson Fury and his failed drugs test? :confused:

Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - October 29th 2016

Posted: 05 Jul 2016, 15:37
by Andrew
Exoddus wrote:How can they fight in October? What's going to happen with Tyson Fury and his failed drugs test? :confused:
Exactly, stuffs surely going to come out in the next few weeks

IE the massive case file from UKADs website like with other boxer violations

Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - October 29th 2016

Posted: 05 Jul 2016, 16:39
by Cyclops
To be quite honest I am looking forward to my ticket refund as I could do with the cash at the moment.

Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - October 29th 2016

Posted: 06 Jul 2016, 11:02
by MacTavish
Assume tickets will go back on sale?

Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - October 29th 2016

Posted: 07 Jul 2016, 13:01
by mullenman
Anybody else think this fight won't happen and if it does happen the arena won't be near full

Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - October 29th 2016

Posted: 07 Jul 2016, 13:09
by freddydoesdallas
mullenman wrote:Anybody else think this fight won't happen and if it does happen the arena won't be near full
Yes. This isn't capturing the publics imagination at all.

If it was priced competitively it would help.

Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - October 29th 2016

Posted: 07 Jul 2016, 13:11
by JimJim2009
mullenman wrote:Anybody else think this fight won't happen and if it does happen the arena won't be near full
Me. I didn't think the first one would happen either. I don't know what it is, but certain shows fall apart all too often and I wouldn't have any confidence buying a ticket for the oct 29th date. I expect Eddie will do his best to run a counter promotion too, to draw ticket buyers his way.

Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - October 29th 2016

Posted: 07 Jul 2016, 13:18
by mullenman
JimJim2009 wrote:
mullenman wrote:Anybody else think this fight won't happen and if it does happen the arena won't be near full
Me. I didn't think the first one would happen either. I don't know what it is, but certain shows fall apart all too often and I wouldn't have any confidence buying a ticket for the oct 29th date. I expect Eddie will do his best to run a counter promotion too, to draw ticket buyers his way.
If Eddie was involved in this fight it would be the biggest fight in the UK ever ever ever..
I think the promotion for this fight of the two premier heavyweights on the planet is awful

Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - October 29th 2016

Posted: 07 Jul 2016, 14:46
by mickey1975
A big problem here for the promoter is the many tickets bought for resale on the secondary market. The touts have had an insight now into how they were going and will be relieved to be only losing their booking fees and postage.

Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - October 29th 2016

Posted: 07 Jul 2016, 18:52
by Cyclops
At least if it does go ahead and there's about 100 of us and a bunch of crickets then we won't have to worry about our seats being nicked.

No queue at the bar, either.

I'm going to go and sit ringside.

Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - October 29th 2016

Posted: 08 Jul 2016, 02:35
by Andrew
mullenman wrote:
JimJim2009 wrote:
mullenman wrote:Anybody else think this fight won't happen and if it does happen the arena won't be near full
Me. I didn't think the first one would happen either. I don't know what it is, but certain shows fall apart all too often and I wouldn't have any confidence buying a ticket for the oct 29th date. I expect Eddie will do his best to run a counter promotion too, to draw ticket buyers his way.
If Eddie was involved in this fight it would be the biggest fight in the UK ever ever ever..
I think the promotion for this fight of the two premier heavyweights on the planet is awful
Not quite the biggest ever but Eddie ( with Sky) would make this a massive fight. The tickets are twice what Frampton and Quigg was. I think the interest is there for sure but I've read some 2nd tier tickets were £150. Really a fight of this magnitude should be sold out in a few days. First lineal heavyweight title fight in the UK since 1998 and before that it was 1966 !

Like you said can't see how people can have confidence getting tickets especially with the failed drugs test. Personally I don't think Fury will fight again I don't think he gives a s**t anymore.

Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - October 29th 2016

Posted: 08 Jul 2016, 04:28
by keithmoonhangover
freddydoesdallas wrote:
mullenman wrote:Anybody else think this fight won't happen and if it does happen the arena won't be near full
Yes. This isn't capturing the publics imagination at all.

If it was priced competitively it would help.
The numbers don't stack up for me if it's not on PPV and in a sell out stadium, which will only happen if the fight is held in Germany.

Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - October 29th 2016

Posted: 08 Jul 2016, 05:07
by deadpan
keithmoonhangover wrote:
freddydoesdallas wrote:
mullenman wrote:Anybody else think this fight won't happen and if it does happen the arena won't be near full
Yes. This isn't capturing the publics imagination at all.

If it was priced competitively it would help.
The numbers don't stack up for me if it's not on PPV and in a sell out stadium, which will only happen if the fight is held in Germany.
Absolutely. Surely Wlad would demand assurances that the drugs issue and/or ticket sales aren't going to render his training camp futile. Any 60k stadium in Germany sells out.

Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - October 29th 2016

Posted: 08 Jul 2016, 05:18
by freddydoesdallas
deadpan wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:
freddydoesdallas wrote:
Yes. This isn't capturing the publics imagination at all.

If it was priced competitively it would help.
The numbers don't stack up for me if it's not on PPV and in a sell out stadium, which will only happen if the fight is held in Germany.
Absolutely. Surely Wlad would demand assurances that the drugs issue and/or ticket sales aren't going to render his training camp futile. Any 60k stadium in Germany sells out.
The fight fans who would go to this event over here would probably travel over to Germany for it anyway

Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - October 29th 2016

Posted: 08 Jul 2016, 05:18
by keithmoonhangover
deadpan wrote: Absolutely. Surely Wlad would demand assurances that the drugs issue and/or ticket sales aren't going to render his training camp futile. Any 60k stadium in Germany sells out.
There's just something really strange about this whole thing IMO.

Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - October 29th 2016

Posted: 08 Jul 2016, 05:36
by mickey1975
The bottom line is Meaty Mick is not up to the job and unfortunately, neither are BN.

Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - October 29th 2016

Posted: 08 Jul 2016, 05:48
by freddydoesdallas
mickey1975 wrote:The bottom line is Meaty Mick is not up to the job and unfortunately, neither are BN.
What do you think needs to happen? Fury is pretty much a weekly story in the national newspapers so his profile couldn't be higher (it could of course be a bit more positive), Wladimir is an international superstar (recognition wise), it's the rightful heavyweight championship of the world, people do know about it but just don't seem to care.

It's a strange scenario

Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - October 29th 2016

Posted: 08 Jul 2016, 06:11
by mickey1975
People just don't have allegedly.Tickets need to be at least reasonably priced. If me and Cigano are thinking twice then what's everyone else thinking? 5 pals of mine got flights to Germany, hotel, a bit of spending money and ticket for the price of a lower tier seat...

Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - October 29th 2016

Posted: 08 Jul 2016, 06:17
by Cyclops
mickey1975 wrote:The bottom line is Meaty Mick is not up to the job and unfortunately, neither are BN.
Hennessy is terrible anybody can see that. It's good that the Fury's are loyal to him but when you think of other fighters he's had they didn't go anywhere really until they left him. I don't really care who promotes who so forgive me if I'm wrong but didn't he have DeGale fighting in shopping centres and wasn't Carl Froch with him when couldn't get arrested despite facing murderer's row?

Warren's not been great recently either, despite box-nation being a good channel: BJS has to cancel shoes and feign injury because nobody gives a rats ass about him. These are good fighters, world champs, but can't get fights, can't sell out venues, don't have the right PR to make people like them, aren't advertised properly, venues are overpriced or in shit locations...

Eddie Hearn, for all his faults, is at least an engaging talker and sells the shit out of his fighters. You can see why people want to be with him.

Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - October 29th 2016

Posted: 08 Jul 2016, 06:37
by keithmoonhangover
freddydoesdallas wrote:
mickey1975 wrote:The bottom line is Meaty Mick is not up to the job and unfortunately, neither are BN.
What do you think needs to happen? Fury is pretty much a weekly story in the national newspapers so his profile couldn't be higher (it could of course be a bit more positive), Wladimir is an international superstar (recognition wise), it's the rightful heavyweight championship of the world, people do know about it but just don't seem to care.

It's a strange scenario
Fury has never been a big ticket seller, the first fight was as dull as the paintwork on a ten year old Corse and Fury has upset a lot of people. Put them all together and it's not pretty. I've always been a Fury fan and I predicted him winning a world title, but I have no appetite for a rematch.

Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - October 29th 2016

Posted: 08 Jul 2016, 07:21
by Loftgroov
I doubt this fight will ever happen, for a few reasons.

I'm not sure Fury's heart is in it and that he really cares if it goes ahead. Also I suspect its falling well short on the original commercial expectations. The TV money isn't there and event tickets didn't exactly fly off the shelves.

The fight has been poorly promoted really and has failed to capture the wider public imagination.

I just reckon Fury thinks "eff it".....

Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - October 29th 2016

Posted: 08 Jul 2016, 07:54
by mickey1975
We won't know until a month before the fight. It probably seems a good idea to him now it's 16 weeks away.

Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - October 29th 2016

Posted: 08 Jul 2016, 09:38
by mickey1975
Bonte now saying he doesn't care what Fury tweets, no date or venue has been agreed.

Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - October 29th 2016

Posted: 08 Jul 2016, 10:06
by freddydoesdallas
mickey1975 wrote:Bonte now saying he doesn't care what Fury tweets, no date or venue has been agreed.
Not going to happen is it. Fury is going to be pickpocketed by the sanctioning bodies for his titles too and will probably never lose one, or defend one, in the ring