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Re: Povetkin tests Positive for illegal substance
Posted: 16 May 2016, 10:15
by asdfjkl
PsychoGamerTwo wrote:asdfjkl wrote:PsychoGamerTwo wrote:
Yeah, in 2012, but not 2014 when the russian (ice)hockey-team tested positive. And it doesn't even matter if the Dutch won Gold or not.
Schippers suddenly went way better, got more muscly, a bigger jaw, and acne. Typical.
Couldn't really care what you think like i sound, sorry.
Oh ice hockey now? You simply chose a completely different sport even? Also, Schippers was already selected for the top when she was a 12 year old lol. But you just randomly select based on looks or someone is on peds? Oke, sounds like very very reliable! Obviously I haven't changed my mind about what you sound like to me.
Should've known, since there was no regular hockey at 2014 Winter Olympics.
200m Sprint, her best time was 22 seconds, then suddenly running 21,6s record, instead of small progress towards it. Sounds legit. If you had any idea how hard it is, to increase THAT much if you're already on your limits... but sure, hard training does this, along with getting acne & a chin like a man, right? Don't even bother replying, not going to read your nonsense again.
Lol, I spoke about hockey, you could have at least realised that hockey isn't even played during the winter olympics at all lol. It's you who should have realised, how could you ever expect me to realise you ment an entire differend sport as what you were talking about? You're the one who's making stuff up, not me, I just keep on talking about the facts.
Re: Povetkin tests Positive for illegal substance
Posted: 16 May 2016, 10:17
by asdfjkl
foxdog1923 wrote:asdfjkl wrote:foxdog1923 wrote:
He's so stupid, he should've taken no drugs unless he was sick. If your well why take drugs.
Povetkin was thought to be ducking Wilder last year and Povetkin said it was Wilder that was ducking but now look. It looks like Povetkin is doing everything to make this fight not happen.
Wilder has done NOTHING WRONG so if you even look at Wilder to put some blame you are stupid like Povetkin.
Like Wilder has never taken an asparine, Wilder has continually tried to avoid top contenders. Povetkin is below the marge of 1 microgram (which is what's acceptable for WADA as far as I know) by a factor 15.
What are you stupid? Povetkin tested positive. Wilder tested negative so fuk up you idiot. There's no fight because of Povetkin. You fail to understand that, your brain doesn't understand.
Yea, lol, they found evidence of something that everybody on the planet knew ages ago. Let's make water illegal and then prove Wilder drunk water 5 years ago! Despite Povetkin used it ages ago, he's still far under any limit ever used. That's also the reason the fight hasn't been off, unlike some media suggests, but postphoned.
Re: Povetkin tests Positive for illegal substance
Posted: 16 May 2016, 10:25
by SaadOffTheDeck
Why do you keep pretending that something that would enhance every attribute of boxing is harmless?
Re: Povetkin tests Positive for illegal substance
Posted: 16 May 2016, 10:28
by SaadOffTheDeck
Lol, what an idiot.
Re: Povetkin tests Positive for illegal substance
Posted: 16 May 2016, 10:29
by asdfjkl
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Why do you keep pretending that something that would enhance every attribute of boxing is harmless?
Assuming you're talking to me, even that hasn't been proven at all...
Re: Povetkin tests Positive for illegal substance
Posted: 16 May 2016, 10:53
by runner_phob
Let's see what WBC says. Vargas is allowed to fight Salido in spite of testing positive for clenbuterol, because California AC believes that it was from Mexican meat. WBC didn't interfere allowing the Athletic Commission to decide. Here, we have some Russian AC which of course wouldn't object against the fight. Will WBC show double standards ?
Re: Povetkin tests Positive for illegal substance
Posted: 16 May 2016, 12:09
by SaadOffTheDeck
asdfjkl wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Why do you keep pretending that something that would enhance every attribute of boxing is harmless?
Assuming you're talking to me, even that hasn't been proven at all...
Yes, I was, and it absolutely has. You're embarrassing yourself. Aspirin wouldn't give you more power, chin and activity. More oxygen does.
Re: Povetkin tests Positive for illegal substance
Posted: 16 May 2016, 13:16
by asdfjkl
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:asdfjkl wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Why do you keep pretending that something that would enhance every attribute of boxing is harmless?
Assuming you're talking to me, even that hasn't been proven at all...
Yes, I was, and it absolutely has. You're embarrassing yourself. Aspirin wouldn't give you more power, chin and activity. More oxygen does.
Yup, but meldonium isn't oxygen, as you might know.
Re: Povetkin tests Positive for illegal substance
Posted: 16 May 2016, 13:28
by ttornado
It'll be interesting to see what the verdict of the Sharapova hearing is.
Re: Povetkin tests Positive for illegal substance
Posted: 16 May 2016, 13:30
by ttornado
asdfjkl wrote:
Yup, but meldonium isn't oxygen, as you might know.
Meldonium stimulates glucose metabolism which is the method of increased energy.
Re: Povetkin tests Positive for illegal substance
Posted: 16 May 2016, 13:41
by SaadOffTheDeck
asdfjkl wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:asdfjkl wrote:
Assuming you're talking to me, even that hasn't been proven at all...
Yes, I was, and it absolutely has. You're embarrassing yourself. Aspirin wouldn't give you more power, chin and activity. More oxygen does.
Yup, but meldonium isn't oxygen, as you might know.
It produces more oxygen. That's what it's for.
Re: Povetkin tests Positive for illegal substance
Posted: 16 May 2016, 14:02
by asdfjkl
ttornado wrote:asdfjkl wrote:
Yup, but meldonium isn't oxygen, as you might know.
Meldonium stimulates glucose metabolism which is the method of increased energy.
Just like pretty much any food?
Re: Povetkin tests Positive for illegal substance
Posted: 16 May 2016, 14:03
by asdfjkl
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:asdfjkl wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Yes, I was, and it absolutely has. You're embarrassing yourself. Aspirin wouldn't give you more power, chin and activity. More oxygen does.
Yup, but meldonium isn't oxygen, as you might know.
It produces more oxygen. That's what it's for.
Nope, it doesn't.
Re: Povetkin tests Positive for illegal substance
Posted: 16 May 2016, 14:07
by foxdog1923
asdfjkl wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:asdfjkl wrote:
Yup, but meldonium isn't oxygen, as you might know.
It produces more oxygen. That's what it's for.
Nope, it doesn't.
It's banned for a reason. Water and food is not banned. Do you understand now? 1 + 1 = 2 do you understand?
Re: Povetkin tests Positive for illegal substance
Posted: 16 May 2016, 14:08
by SaadOffTheDeck
asdfjkl wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:asdfjkl wrote:
Yup, but meldonium isn't oxygen, as you might know.
It produces more oxygen. That's what it's for.
Nope, it doesn't.

Re: Povetkin tests Positive for illegal substance
Posted: 16 May 2016, 14:09
by SaadOffTheDeck
foxdog1923 wrote:asdfjkl wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
It produces more oxygen. That's what it's for.
Nope, it doesn't.
It's banned for a reason. Water and food is not banned. Do you understand now? 1 + 1 = 2 do you understand?
He doesn't think increased stamina is beneficial to fighters.
Re: Povetkin tests Positive for illegal substance
Posted: 16 May 2016, 14:10
by drunkenpiper36
Apparently the fights back on.
Re: Povetkin tests Positive for illegal substance
Posted: 16 May 2016, 14:14
by foxdog1923
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:foxdog1923 wrote:asdfjkl wrote:
Nope, it doesn't.
It's banned for a reason. Water and food is not banned. Do you understand now? 1 + 1 = 2 do you understand?
He doesn't think increased stamina is beneficial to fighters.
He's an over the top Povetkin fan and is childish about Povetkin being caught out. He use to rant on here about Wilder ducking Povetkin and prolonging their fight which could've happened a lot earlier this year but now that it's his boy Povetkin that's halting proceedings, he Clutches at straws and tries to fault Wilder. Immature.
Re: Povetkin tests Positive for illegal substance
Posted: 16 May 2016, 14:16
by SaadOffTheDeck
drunkenpiper36 wrote:Apparently the fights back on.
Huh? Wilder is on his way back to the states.
Re: Povetkin tests Positive for illegal substance
Posted: 16 May 2016, 14:17
by SaadOffTheDeck
foxdog1923 wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:foxdog1923 wrote:
It's banned for a reason. Water and food is not banned. Do you understand now? 1 + 1 = 2 do you understand?
He doesn't think increased stamina is beneficial to fighters.
He's an over the top Povetkin fan and is childish about Povetkin being caught out. He use to rant on here about Wilder ducking Povetkin and prolonging their fight which could've happened a lot earlier this year but now that it's his boy Povetkin that's halting proceedings, he Clutches at straws and tries to fault Wilder. Immature.

Re: Povetkin tests Positive for illegal substance
Posted: 16 May 2016, 14:19
by asdfjkl
foxdog1923 wrote:asdfjkl wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
It produces more oxygen. That's what it's for.
Nope, it doesn't.
It's banned for a reason. Water and food is not banned. Do you understand now? 1 + 1 = 2 do you understand?
It's banned for no reason but annoy Russians.
Exactly and @ SaadOffTheDeck, it hasn't even been proven that it helps your stamina. Also, an aspirine helps your stamina as well.
It's like an activist crying about nuclear energy beïng dangerous with a scientist in front of him eating a banana saying this banana is radioactive!
Re: Povetkin tests Positive for illegal substance
Posted: 16 May 2016, 14:20
by ttornado
asdfjkl wrote:
Just like pretty much any food?
Not like food.
It causes energy production from glucose to be favoured over that from fat.
This gives the user an increase in stamina.
l-Carnitine biosynthesis enzyme γ-butyrobetaine hydroxylase and carnitine/organic cation transporter type 2 (OCTN2) are the main known drug targets of meldonium, and through inhibition of these activities meldonium induces adaptive changes in the cellular energy homeostasis. Since l-carnitine is involved in the metabolism of fatty acids, the decline in its levels stimulates glucose metabolism and decreases concentrations of l-carnitine related metabolites, such as long-chain acylcarnitines and trimethylamine-N-oxide.
Re: Povetkin tests Positive for illegal substance
Posted: 16 May 2016, 14:21
by SaadOffTheDeck
asdfjkl wrote:foxdog1923 wrote:asdfjkl wrote:
Nope, it doesn't.
It's banned for a reason. Water and food is not banned. Do you understand now? 1 + 1 = 2 do you understand?
It's banned for no reason but annoy Russians.
Exactly and @ SaadOffTheDeck, it hasn't even been proven that it helps your stamina. Also, an aspirine helps your stamina as well.
It's like an activist crying about nuclear energy beïng dangerous with a scientist in front of him eating a banana saying this banana is radioactive!
The drug is designed for people with poor circulation and heart issues. Those people need more oxygen in their cells. Why the fornicate do you think athletes were using it?
Re: Povetkin tests Positive for illegal substance
Posted: 16 May 2016, 14:22
by asdfjkl
ttornado wrote:asdfjkl wrote:
Just like pretty much any food?
Not like food.
It causes energy production from glucose to be favoured over that from fat.
This gives the user an increase in stamina.
l-Carnitine biosynthesis enzyme γ-butyrobetaine hydroxylase and carnitine/organic cation transporter type 2 (OCTN2) are the main known drug targets of meldonium, and through inhibition of these activities meldonium induces adaptive changes in the cellular energy homeostasis. Since l-carnitine is involved in the metabolism of fatty acids, the decline in its levels stimulates glucose metabolism and decreases concentrations of l-carnitine related metabolites, such as long-chain acylcarnitines and trimethylamine-N-oxide.
Yea lol, or it makes the user look like a fatty who burns all the glucose instead of the fat?
Re: Povetkin tests Positive for illegal substance
Posted: 16 May 2016, 14:27
by ttornado
asdfjkl wrote:
Yea lol, or it makes the user look like a fatty who burns all the glucose instead of the fat?
Favouring the production of energy from glucose is not the same as inhibiting the production of energy from fat.