Is the Fury v Parker going to be a hard sell?

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Naandrew wrote:
Boxerbeetle wrote:Do we know what's happening with tv coverage yet? Can't remember seeing anything confirmed?
Itv box office has been mentioned and is listed in this site.

IMO this fight would be a disaster on PPV.
It will be in Parker's home country for sure.
Which is why I was so interested in the undercard.
I usually have to pitch PPV's to management and this is going to be a tough sell :maybe:
I've got approval already for Canelo/GGG and AJ/Pulev. Not sure how to add this, given the underwhelming undercard....
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Naandrew wrote:
Boxerbeetle wrote:Do we know what's happening with tv coverage yet? Can't remember seeing anything confirmed?
Itv box office has been mentioned and is listed in this site.

IMO this fight would be a disaster on PPV.
Totally agree with this , how many ppv buys do ITV expect this to do ?

I'm surprised the powers that be at the channel have taken this on .
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bigjack wrote:
afcmarshall wrote:
Manchester Hitman wrote:Slightly different situation but I ended up basically at ringside for Haye- Chisora. We bought tickets at the back on the floor/pitch but we got there early and the security was so lax We kept creeping forward without being challenged until We got to about 5 rows down. Just before the main event the people who paid for our seats turned up so we had to move, but the heavens opened up and everybody stood up from then on leaving the seating in chaos and we ended gping even further forward to just behind Frank W and co.
did this for Eubank Abraham

What,it rained inside the arena ? :lol:
Haye v Chisora was at Upton Park, outside.
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MarkMcBurney wrote:
bigjack wrote:
afcmarshall wrote: did this for Eubank Abraham

What,it rained inside the arena ? :lol:
Haye v Chisora was at Upton Park, outside.

I know but Eubank v Abraham wasn't
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Manchester Hitman wrote:Slightly different situation but I ended up basically at ringside for Haye- Chisora. We bought tickets at the back on the floor/pitch but we got there early and the security was so lax We kept creeping forward without being challenged until We got to about 5 rows down. Just before the main event the people who paid for our seats turned up so we had to move, but the heavens opened up and everybody stood up from then on leaving the seating in chaos and we ended gping even further forward to just behind Frank W and co.
The security literally said they weren't going to bother searching us and told us to go buy all our beers for the night in an off license on some estate across the road. To this day I can't recall a more enjoyable, good natured night at the boxing.
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With only 6 weeks to go isn’t it about time that Hennessey stops stuffing his face with greggs sausage rolls and tells us what tv station this fight will be on, I’m guessing ITV haven’t taken the fight as they would of announced it by now so who does that leave for Hennessey to work with?

Why the fury’s are sticking by him is beyond me, surely if he cant get TV this fight can’t happen then where does that leave Hughie. 4000 tickets sold aint going to cover the $3 million purse.

Hughie should of stayed with Frank, least he would of known that the fight would more than likely go ahead.

He really is the worst promoter out there, he never keeps us the fans updated.
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I think they will have to go free to air - maybe
Channel 5 or Dave etc
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How has Hennessey made his money ? or has he not got any ?

it cannot be from boxing
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was telling my brother about Parker v Fury yesterday, the questions I received back ranged from "is that tysons brother" ? to "who is joseph parker" ?to "wadya mean its a world title fight I thought Joshua was champ " ?
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littlepug wrote:was telling my brother about Parker v Fury yesterday, the questions I received back ranged from "is that tysons brother" ? to "who is joseph parker" ?to "wadya mean its a world title fight I thought Joshua was champ " ?
He is :OhYes:
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sweetscience wrote:How has Hennessey made his money ? or has he not got any ?

it cannot be from boxing
Davina style fitness DVD's
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Manchester Hitman wrote:I think they will have to go free to air - maybe
Channel 5 or Dave etc
Doubt C5 will pick it up live as almost certain to clash with their pathetic highlights of L1 & L2. They will get more viewers to that than hughie v parker even if it is a title fight.
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Wonder if fwank will answer the phone if Mick calls ?

Also wonder how long Hughie's contract with mick runs for. I think some management contracts automatically renew or extend if the fighter becomes a champ, and I've wondered sometimes what the rush is with Hughie. There's absolutely no need to rush him into a world title fight. That isn't necessarily a reason not to, but if you're gonna go for this at this early stage of his life, you owe it to your fighter to prepare him right. All seemed rosy for price when he was bowling over domestic opposition easily but it didn't prepare him for the step up. If Hughie gets knocked out badly by Parker it will be interesting to see what happens next from a management perspective.
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Can’t see C5 picking it up and even if they or Dave do the fee they pay still wont be enough to pay the main event fight, the only way Hennessey would of have had any chance to pay for this fight is PPV, but then again if it is on PPV I can see it bombing, the fight is not interesting at all, just look at how many tickets are left on the seating plan on the eventim website, hennessey must be laying awake at night worrying and i bet you the tickets that aren’t available are out with the undercard so 50% of them will comeback.

Hope Hennessey has deep pockets if not he is going to be screwed, can see him pulling the fight with at least 2 weeks to go.
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Manchester Hitman wrote:I think they will have to go free to air - maybe
Channel 5 or Dave etc
Cant help but think they should have done a deal with Haye/Dave in the first place

Free tv (surely better then using a PPV platform and noone watching?).
Winner vs Haye can be announced at the end of the night. (Good for everyone involved?)
The fighters signed to Hayemaker Ringstar that need a debut & the couple extra guys in the Fury camp make a better undercard then the one shown for this fight on boxrec imo...
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JimJim2009 wrote:Wonder if fwank will answer the phone if Mick calls ?

Also wonder how long Hughie's contract with mick runs for. I think some management contracts automatically renew or extend if the fighter becomes a champ, and I've wondered sometimes what the rush is with Hughie. There's absolutely no need to rush him into a world title fight. That isn't necessarily a reason not to, but if you're gonna go for this at this early stage of his life, you owe it to your fighter to prepare him right. All seemed rosy for price when he was bowling over domestic opposition easily but it didn't prepare him for the step up. If Hughie gets knocked out badly by Parker it will be interesting to see what happens next from a management perspective.
Hughie is still, as of right now, featured on Warren's website as one of his fighters. There's been no press to state that Hughie has left Warren, and Warren clearly did sign him. I assume there's some sort of co-promotional deal going on somewhere, and if Hughie has indeed left Warren it seems very odd, (not to say utterly amateur hour) for him to still be there, front and centre, on Warren's own site, if Warren has nothing to do with him anymore. Remember, Warren made the purse bids for the cancelled fight in New Zealand.

I know there have been situations in the past where to the untrained eye it can appear Warren is promoting a fighter when in fact he's essentially promoting the fact that the fighter is on BN, (this was often the case with Tyson), again, a TV deal doesn't even seem to be nailed down for this.

Just a total promotional mess.
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I literally just check this to see if the fight is still going ahead...
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Glass Joe wrote:Can’t see C5 picking it up and even if they or Dave do the fee they pay still wont be enough to pay the main event fight, the only way Hennessey would of have had any chance to pay for this fight is PPV, but then again if it is on PPV I can see it bombing, the fight is not interesting at all, just look at how many tickets are left on the seating plan on the eventim website, hennessey must be laying awake at night worrying and i bet you the tickets that aren’t available are out with the undercard so 50% of them will comeback.

Hope Hennessey has deep pockets if not he is going to be screwed, can see him pulling the fight with at least 2 weeks to go.
It will be PPV in NZ which should generate about £400,000 because it is a whopping £22 a pop. As seat sales and some sponsorship and they should scrape by.
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The last fight that was cancelled was around $3m in purse bids - now they are scraping but for £400k in half empty arena.

Something not adding up - Peter Fury said they'd spent £60k advertising the other day alone.

No TV deal - arena not even 50% full - very little undercard of note - getting Parker exposure aside I don't know why this is even taking place in the UK.
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Some good info regarding this fight from "Boxing Squared"".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5lLLhR5mRM

Bigs ups to him for getting out and asking the hard queations.
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3132DW wrote:The last fight that was cancelled was around $3m in purse bids - now they are scraping but for £400k in half empty arena.

Something not adding up - Peter Fury said they'd spent £60k advertising the other day alone.

No TV deal - arena not even 50% full - very little undercard of note - getting Parker exposure aside I don't know why this is even taking place in the UK.
Is that right ? That the total purses for both guys is around £400k ?
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KiwiRider wrote:
Glass Joe wrote:Can’t see C5 picking it up and even if they or Dave do the fee they pay still wont be enough to pay the main event fight, the only way Hennessey would of have had any chance to pay for this fight is PPV, but then again if it is on PPV I can see it bombing, the fight is not interesting at all, just look at how many tickets are left on the seating plan on the eventim website, hennessey must be laying awake at night worrying and i bet you the tickets that aren’t available are out with the undercard so 50% of them will comeback.

Hope Hennessey has deep pockets if not he is going to be screwed, can see him pulling the fight with at least 2 weeks to go.
It will be PPV in NZ which should generate about £400,000 because it is a whopping £22 a pop. As seat sales and some sponsorship and they should scrape by.
60k to promote the event isn’t going to help one bit, if no one is interested in the fight or fighters then they will not spend money on buying a ticket and TV will not spend big money on buying the rights to the fight and with 6 weeks to go it’s defo not looking good for hennessey or the fury’s.

anyone with half a brain can see once you add all of the undercard purses and event costs you must be looking at around £3 million to pay everyone and a few thousand sold tickets and and 400k PPV in new zealand ain’t going to cover that. so where is hennessey getting the cash from?

It looks like yet again hennessey will not delivered for his fighter, when are these guys going to realise that he is the worst promoter out there with no clue on how to promote an event. when was the last time did we hear from hennessey about this fight apart from the press conference, at least hearn and warren would be getting themselves out there to promote the event.

hennessey might as well of saved the 60k on advertising and spent it in greggs, least he would of got some enjoyment out of it before flushing it down the toilet!
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Glass Joe wrote:
KiwiRider wrote:
Glass Joe wrote:Can’t see C5 picking it up and even if they or Dave do the fee they pay still wont be enough to pay the main event fight, the only way Hennessey would of have had any chance to pay for this fight is PPV, but then again if it is on PPV I can see it bombing, the fight is not interesting at all, just look at how many tickets are left on the seating plan on the eventim website, hennessey must be laying awake at night worrying and i bet you the tickets that aren’t available are out with the undercard so 50% of them will comeback.

Hope Hennessey has deep pockets if not he is going to be screwed, can see him pulling the fight with at least 2 weeks to go.
It will be PPV in NZ which should generate about £400,000 because it is a whopping £22 a pop. As seat sales and some sponsorship and they should scrape by.
60k to promote the event isn’t going to help one bit, if no one is interested in the fight or fighters then they will not spend money on buying a ticket and TV will not spend big money on buying the rights to the fight and with 6 weeks to go it’s defo not looking good for hennessey or the fury’s.

anyone with half a brain can see once you add all of the undercard purses and event costs you must be looking at around £3 million to pay everyone and a few thousand sold tickets and and 400k PPV in new zealand ain’t going to cover that. so where is hennessey getting the cash from?

It looks like yet again hennessey will not delivered for his fighter, when are these guys going to realise that he is the worst promoter out there with no clue on how to promote an event. when was the last time did we hear from hennessey about this fight apart from the press conference, at least hearn and warren would be getting themselves out there to promote the event.

hennessey might as well of saved the 60k on advertising and spent it in greggs, least he would of got some enjoyment out of it before flushing it down the toilet!
Yeah it will be expensive to put on the show and unfortunately Mick Hennessy just doesn't have deep pockets. Hennessy Sports only had £70k in the bank last accounts and his two companies combined have a negative value of -£1m. Let's hope a good TV deal can be announced or this will be a struggle. Cant believe FW isn't involved or at least doesn't appear to be as he would have done things far better.
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Mark Lloyd wrote:
Glass Joe wrote:
KiwiRider wrote: It will be PPV in NZ which should generate about £400,000 because it is a whopping £22 a pop. As seat sales and some sponsorship and they should scrape by.
60k to promote the event isn’t going to help one bit, if no one is interested in the fight or fighters then they will not spend money on buying a ticket and TV will not spend big money on buying the rights to the fight and with 6 weeks to go it’s defo not looking good for hennessey or the fury’s.

anyone with half a brain can see once you add all of the undercard purses and event costs you must be looking at around £3 million to pay everyone and a few thousand sold tickets and and 400k PPV in new zealand ain’t going to cover that. so where is hennessey getting the cash from?

It looks like yet again hennessey will not delivered for his fighter, when are these guys going to realise that he is the worst promoter out there with no clue on how to promote an event. when was the last time did we hear from hennessey about this fight apart from the press conference, at least hearn and warren would be getting themselves out there to promote the event.

hennessey might as well of saved the 60k on advertising and spent it in greggs, least he would of got some enjoyment out of it before flushing it down the toilet!
Yeah it will be expensive to put on the show and unfortunately Mick Hennessy just doesn't have deep pockets. Hennessy Sports only had £70k in the bank last accounts and his two companies combined have a negative value of -£1m. Let's hope a good TV deal can be announced or this will be a struggle. Cant believe FW isn't involved or at least doesn't appear to be as he would have done things far better.
The fact it's not even been mentioned on BT/BN would indicate they ain't covering the event.
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I can't post a picture from Farcebook on here, but on Parker's page is a snap of him with Malik Scott. Scott looks in the shape of his life and his arms are huge! The guy looks about 10% more muscular all over. He looks nothing like the guy who lost to Wilder and Ortiz.
Joseph's sparring has been going well, no problems from the shoulder or elbow so far.
It might have been Huey last time with an injury, but Joe has had a few niggles too.
Both guys are obviously training hard, I do think Parker being based in Vegas may give him more options regarding sparring partners.
Anyone know who Huey is sparring with at the moment, or is he still chopping wood and shagging sheep in the back country?
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