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The sport is corrupt, disgrace, outside agencies need to get involved in this.

TheLeprechaun wrote:Call me crazy but I scored that for Canelo. He landed the more eye catching shots throughout the fight and I thought GGG was coming forward and hitting fresh air for most of the night.

Crazy

Kilburn wrote:Scoring aside how was the fight overall as a spectacle? Did it live up to the hype?

excellent fight. Both elite fighters but it was a straight robbery

jamesmcdonnell wrote:118-110, what a joke. disgusting. GGG was classy not to call it out. Canelo, you classless, ginger pudendum, about how you should have won. Rematch, kick his ass proper.

I'm as disgusted as you but in fairness to Canelo what's he gonna say. It was close enough for him to subjectively maybe think he shaded it especially as he landed several clean crisp power shots.

Even though we all knew the judges probably wouldn't let Canelo lose, that one scorecard was so fvcking outrageous it's made me so angry I can't sleep.

Wrong just very wrong GGG won that fight.

CaptainSpacerod wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:118-110, what a joke. disgusting. GGG was classy not to call it out. Canelo, you classless, ginger pudendum, about how you should have won. Rematch, kick his ass proper.

I'm as disgusted as you but in fairness to Canelo what's he gonna say. It was close enough for him to subjectively maybe think he shaded it especially as he landed several clean crisp power shots.

Even though we all knew the judges probably wouldn't let Canelo lose, that one scorecard was so fvcking outrageous it's made me so angry I can't sleep.

Have an angry wank. It'll sort you out.

Nightmare Roy wrote:

TheLeprechaun wrote:Call me crazy but I scored that for Canelo. He landed the more eye catching shots throughout the fight and I thought GGG was coming forward and hitting fresh air for most of the night.

Crazy

Off the top of my head I gave Canelo the first 3 and 9,10,11. I thought he won those rounds clearly. So for me thats 6 rounds for Canelo. Can you argue with any of these rounds and say they are clear GGG rounds? I'm just going from memory here but there were a couple of other rounds that I thought Canelo had a good shout of winning.Those ones just stand out because they were two blocks of three rounds.

Seems to me like you just scored it based on how you thought it would go.

Canelo had moments but he couldnt hold back from the constant breaks and the eye catching stuff wasnt coming enough. I thought Golovkin was landing significantly more based on the output disparity, and he never seemed bothered enough for Canelos shots too be considered particularly effective

TheLeprechaun wrote:

Nightmare Roy wrote:

TheLeprechaun wrote:Call me crazy but I scored that for Canelo. He landed the more eye catching shots throughout the fight and I thought GGG was coming forward and hitting fresh air for most of the night.

Crazy

Off the top of my head I gave Canelo the first 3 and 9,10,11. I thought he won those rounds clearly. So for me thats 6 rounds for Canelo. Can you argue with any of these rounds and say they are clear GGG rounds? I'm just going from memory here but there were a couple of other rounds that I thought Canelo had a good shout of winning.Those ones just stand out because they were two blocks of three rounds.

1 Canelo
2 Canelo
3 GGG close
4 GGG
5 GGG
6 GGG
7 GGG
8 GGG
9 Canelo close
10 GGG
11Canelo
12Canelo close

I'd love to see Adelaide's fvckin card

And 'eye catching shots' was always the easy way out for Canelo ...there goes scoring rounds on balance!

TheLeprechaun wrote:

Nightmare Roy wrote:

TheLeprechaun wrote:Call me crazy but I scored that for Canelo. He landed the more eye catching shots throughout the fight and I thought GGG was coming forward and hitting fresh air for most of the night.

Crazy

Off the top of my head I gave Canelo the first 3 and 9,10,11. I thought he won those rounds clearly. So for me thats 6 rounds for Canelo. Can you argue with any of these rounds and say they are clear GGG rounds? I'm just going from memory here but there were a couple of other rounds that I thought Canelo had a good shout of winning.Those ones just stand out because they were two blocks of three rounds.

I'm inevitably going from memory as well, but I'll definitely take issue with your version of events. A flurry of eye-catching shots, not many of which land, do not equal a round in the bag - I hate it when I see people slipping into this mindset. From 7 onwards GGG was clearly dictating where the fight went, had the far better work-rate (yes, some missed, but he was still connecting far more regularly and frequently than Alvarez) and was landing that thudding jab consistently.
I'm honestly amazed that anyone could score that for Canelo - he was so clearly flustered, tired and had lost control before the halfway stage. Don't fall into the trap of awarding him rounds just because he perked up a bit in the11th and 12th. He did better, but GGG was still clearly dictating. The only thing I give him props for is heart and chin, as I thought he was on the way out from the 7th.

He through a few eye catching shots each round, GGG pummelled him the rest of the time, it wasn't even close, one of the worst robberies I've ever seen.

Nightmare Roy wrote:He through a few eye catching shots each round, GGG pummelled him the rest of the time, it wasn't even close, one of the worst robberies I've ever seen.

Exactly. I'd expect Canelo fan boys who don't know boxing to be influenced by that, but no-one on this board.

Deserter wrote:

Nightmare Roy wrote:He through a few eye catching shots each round, GGG pummelled him the rest of the time, it wasn't even close, one of the worst robberies I've ever seen.

Exactly. I'd expect Canelo fan boys who don't know boxing to be influenced by that, but no-one on this board.

As i said before I had GGG winning it but it wasn't a one sided beatdown. I'd categorize it as close but still definitive,

Gary Lockett's no Canelo fanboy is he. Khan and Lillis had it close also.

I feel bad for Golovkin as an athlete if he clearly won, although I'd probably be guilty of trying to score close rounds against him too as I just can't get on with that dull boxing style. Hence why I avoided the PPV.

Anyway time to head downstairs to watch the BT Sport show from last night.

CaptainSpacerod wrote:

Deserter wrote:

Nightmare Roy wrote:He through a few eye catching shots each round, GGG pummelled him the rest of the time, it wasn't even close, one of the worst robberies I've ever seen.

Exactly. I'd expect Canelo fan boys who don't know boxing to be influenced by that, but no-one on this board.

As i said before I had GGG winning it but it wasn't a one sided beatdown. I'd categorize it as close but still definitive,

Gary Lockett's no Canelo fanboy is he. Khan and Lillis had it close also.

Khan was always gonna have it close due to the fact he got his head removed by Canelo

rematch, kick his arse.

Nightmare Roy wrote:He through a few eye catching shots each round, GGG pummelled him the rest of the time, it wasn't even close, one of the worst robberies I've ever seen.

The eye catching shots are all that matter!

Eye catching!

EYE CATCHING

Seriously though, it was competitive, but GGG deserved at least 7 and up to 9 rounds IMO. 8-4 seems the most 'right' to me.

TheLeprechaun wrote:

Nightmare Roy wrote:

TheLeprechaun wrote:Call me crazy but I scored that for Canelo. He landed the more eye catching shots throughout the fight and I thought GGG was coming forward and hitting fresh air for most of the night.

Crazy

Off the top of my head I gave Canelo the first 3 and 9,10,11. I thought he won those rounds clearly. So for me thats 6 rounds for Canelo. Can you argue with any of these rounds and say they are clear GGG rounds? I'm just going from memory here but there were a couple of other rounds that I thought Canelo had a good shout of winning.Those ones just stand out because they were two blocks of three rounds.

Learn how to score rounds then.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:rematch, kick his arse.

Canelo is good enough to be competitive, and he can clearly take the shots. I just dont think Golovkin will be able to beat him thoroughly enough to get it against the real son of judges.

Another year older too

CaptainSpacerod wrote:

Deserter wrote:

Nightmare Roy wrote:He through a few eye catching shots each round, GGG pummelled him the rest of the time, it wasn't even close, one of the worst robberies I've ever seen.

Exactly. I'd expect Canelo fan boys who don't know boxing to be influenced by that, but no-one on this board.

As i said before I had GGG winning it but it wasn't a one sided beatdown. I'd categorize it as close but still definitive,

Gary Lockett's no Canelo fanboy is he. Khan and Lillis had it close also.

It wasn't a one-sided beatdown, but from round 5 onwards there was clearly only going to be one winner. It was definitive, hence the outrage, particularly at Byrd's scorecard.

Nightmare Roy wrote:The sport is corrupt, disgrace, outside agencies need to get involved in this.

The card was a disgrace and I thought GGG won. But...

If it was corrupt, why not hand in a 115-114 card for Canelo (which is believable if generous) rather than the ludicrous standout score which has been submitted?

If you get a goalkeeper to go easy you expect a few attempts for crosses that go amiss and a slow reaction to a deflected shot; not throwing the ball into the net half a dozen times.

I had GGG winning rnd 1 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 and 12,this shit is makin me not wanna watch boxing,de ka hiya and his brown envelopes is killing boxing

Funny how disproportionately the incompetent cards benefit the money fighter....

110-118 for canelo? What was that judge smoking? Was that tge one with de la hoya right behind them checking their prostate with both his hands on their shoulders?