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coneye wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 18:21 Whats the argument about I got confused too many big words being thrown about

I'm getting cognitive acid reflux.

GreenLightning wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 18:20

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 18:18

Lol, weeeaaak bruh

There are loads and loads of different tests which test various types of thought that show clear differences in performance.

And there are loads of studies that show why that is the case

Which is exactly the issue I'm raising--why are there these differences. Why has that offended you so much when you admit the differences and further reaffirm their existence by trying to explain them? You have missed my point over and over and of course gone the 'you're a racist! you're a liar!' snowflake route

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 18:23

GreenLightning wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 18:20



And there are loads of studies that show why that is the case

Which is exactly the issue I'm raising--why are there these differences. Why has that offended you so much when you admit the differences and further reaffirm their existence by trying to explain them? You have missed my point over and over and of course gone the 'you're a racist!' snowflake route

Why would you raise that issue when It has been documented time and time and time again, NOTHING to do with cognitive advantages of one race over the other

The old "I'm just asking questions" shit

Your dog whistles are obvious mate, don't try pullin fly ones on me, and by the way, I said my I.Q score was "near-genius" not "genius", don't you have any reading comprehension?

oogiebe wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 18:22

coneye wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 18:21 Whats the argument about I got confused too many big words being thrown about

I'm getting cognitive acid reflux.

Can someone give Big John a ring and ask him who he thinks is smarter than the average bear , I'm sure he'll have an answer

I raised the issue of cognitive performance because it easily relatable to the discussion already being had on athletic performance. And you are case in point of my initial comment, that one is seen as okay to have but the other attracts moaning and snowflaking and 'racism! liar!', including getting to you so much that it drew you from your forum slumber

Again the funny thing is that you have throughout been moaning and saying I'm a liar for bringing up something which you fully admit exists. Clearly the work of a near genius

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 18:30 I raised the issue of cognitive performance because it easily relatable to the discussion already being had on athletic performance. And you are case in point of my initial comment, that one is seen as okay to have but the other attracts moaning and snowflaking and 'racism! liar!', including getting to you so much that it drew you from your forum slumber

Again the funny thing is that you have throughout been moaning and saying I'm a liar for bringing up something which you fully admit exists. Clearly the work of a near genius

Hahahaha oh please son, don't flattery ourself by thinking you personally are getting to me, but your ignorance sure does, because it's dangerous.

You named a bunch of tests that showed racial disparities in results, I showed studies that documented that the results were not based on a direct correlation of race to intelligence, you havn't provided one. You keep saying "but the tests say..." and I'm saying "but the studies of those tests say you're objectively wrong" and all you can respond with is "snowflake"

GreenLightning wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 18:35

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 18:30 I raised the issue of cognitive performance because it easily relatable to the discussion already being had on athletic performance. And you are case in point of my initial comment, that one is seen as okay to have but the other attracts moaning and snowflaking and 'racism! liar!', including getting to you so much that it drew you from your forum slumber

Again the funny thing is that you have throughout been moaning and saying I'm a liar for bringing up something which you fully admit exists. Clearly the work of a near genius

Hahahaha oh please son, don't flattery ourself by thinking you personally are getting to me, but your ignorance sure does, because it's dangerous.

You named a bunch of tests that showed racial disparities in results, I showed studies that documented that the results were not based on a direct correlation of race to intelligence, you havn't provided one. You keep saying "but the tests say..." and I'm saying "but the studies of those tests say you're objectively wrong" and all you can respond with is "snowflake"

Omg, it's almost like, you are providing an explanation for exactly what I was discussing as having possibly many different explanations, and possibly not having any inborn racial cause at all despite clearly different results by race! Wow, better call me a racist and liar for that and for merely wanting to discuss what may be behind the results and why we can talk physical athletics but not mental athletics

Truly such a rationally guided near genius

Such a perfect example of what I was talking about earlier, thanks mate you really show what I meant.

By the way, anyone who just skipped to the end here without reading the previous posts, I highly advise not wasting your time with those , in fact leave this thread right now

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 18:36

GreenLightning wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 18:35

Hahahaha oh please son, don't flattery ourself by thinking you personally are getting to me, but your ignorance sure does, because it's dangerous.

You named a bunch of tests that showed racial disparities in results, I showed studies that documented that the results were not based on a direct correlation of race to intelligence, you havn't provided one. You keep saying "but the tests say..." and I'm saying "but the studies of those tests say you're objectively wrong" and all you can respond with is "snowflake"

Omg, it's almost like, you are providing an explanation for exactly what I was discussing as having possibly many different explanations, and possibly not having any inborn racial cause at all despite clearly different results by race! Wow, better call me a racist and liar for that and for merely wanting to discuss what may be behind the results and why we can talk physical athletics but not mental athletics

Truly such a rationally guided near genius

Such a perfect example of what I was talking about earlier, thanks mate you really show what I meant.

Yes, I'm sure everybody reading this is definately on your side due to the overwhelming evidence you have brought to back up your claims of "clear cognitive differences between races" before completely backtracking on your original remarks.

"It may be a factor" No it is THE factor

again, going in circles son, so you have yet to answer my question, do you believe that there are cognitive differences between the races when outside factors are taken out?? Simple question

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 18:43 By the way, anyone who just skipped to the end here without reading the previous posts, I highly advise not wasting your time with those , in fact leave this thread right now

I recommend they read the whole thing so they can see what a goalpost switching race baiting moron you are, I'm confident enough, why aren't you?

GreenLightning wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 18:44

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 18:36

Omg, it's almost like, you are providing an explanation for exactly what I was discussing as having possibly many different explanations, and possibly not having any inborn racial cause at all despite clearly different results by race! Wow, better call me a racist and liar for that and for merely wanting to discuss what may be behind the results and why we can talk physical athletics but not mental athletics

Truly such a rationally guided near genius

Such a perfect example of what I was talking about earlier, thanks mate you really show what I meant.

Yes, I'm sure everybody reading this is definately on your side due to the overwhelming evidence you have brought to back up your claims of "clear cognitive differences between races" before completely backtracking on your original remarks.

"It may be a factor" No it is THE factor

again, going in circles son, so you have yet to answer my question, do you believe that there are cognitive differences between the races when outside factors are taken out?? Simple question

I've already given it, and you've acknowledged what I was claiming in terms of clear differences when it comes to the performances by race. You have merely tried to explain those differences. All those tests are performances of thought by the way. This equates to differences in cognitive perfomrance. It should not take a near genius to figure out that this is not the same at all as saying that some racial groups are innately more intelligent than others. Must be tough to struggle so much to grasp that mate.

Your snowflaking is exactly what I was talking about earlier and was anticipating, funny that you didn't seem remotely triggered by the talk of athletic performance though, even though that specifically singled out inborn superiority explanations

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 18:49

GreenLightning wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 18:44


Yes, I'm sure everybody reading this is definately on your side due to the overwhelming evidence you have brought to back up your claims of "clear cognitive differences between races" before completely backtracking on your original remarks.

"It may be a factor" No it is THE factor

again, going in circles son, so you have yet to answer my question, do you believe that there are cognitive differences between the races when outside factors are taken out?? Simple question

I've already given it, and you've acknowledged what I was claiming in terms of clear differences when it comes to the performances by race. You have merely tried to explain those differences. All those tests are performances of thought by the way. This equates to differences in cognitive perfomrance. It should not take a near genius to figure out that this is not the same at all as saying that some racial groups are innately more intelligent than others. Must be tough to struggle so much to grasp that mate.

Your snowflaking is exactly what I was talking about earlier and was anticipating, funny that you didn't seem remotely triggered by the talk of athletic performance though, even though that specifically singled out inborn superiority explanations

Except that it didn't You are the definition of the guy who is so far behind in the race he thinks he's in front. I said cognitive performance, not intelligence!! congnitive performance is a part of intelligence you dopey feckless twat so that's exactly what you've been saying all along.

Ah, yet again you struggle mate. Clearly all those tests involve performing on specific measures of thought. They are certainly cases of cognitive performance , that doesn't mean that it's any sort of innate racial factor explaining the differences or that they equate to or capture 'intelligence'

You are the one who has been lumping intelligence in btw and conflating it with other things

Why do you keep avoiding the question then, do you believe there are differences between the races in cognitive though taking out external factors, despite all of the evidence??

coneye wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 18:30

oogiebe wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 18:22
I'm getting cognitive acid reflux.

Can someone give Big John a ring and ask him who he thinks is smarter than the average bear , I'm sure he'll have an answer

LOL! Yeah, John Fury has an opinion on most everything. He's harmless thought. What's funny is we can further discuss this but the two racial cognitive mavens won't notice. I actually forgot what the thread was about!

GreenLightning wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 18:58 Why do you keep avoiding the question then, do you believe there are differences between the races in cognitive though taking out external factors, despite all of the evidence??

You mean innate, inborn racial differences? Like those mention earlier for athletics that you didn't mind? I'm open to the possibility if the evidence of that showed, as I'm guided by reason and not my fragile emotions, but I haven't been convinced yet that there are. What I am supporting though is having reasonable discussions and exchanges about it without reflexive crying of 'racism!' 'liar!' 'blah blah!'

Unfortunetly you just prove the point

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 19:00

GreenLightning wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 18:58 Why do you keep avoiding the question then, do you believe there are differences between the races in cognitive though taking out external factors, despite all of the evidence??

You mean innate, inborn racial differences? Like those mention earlier for athletics that you didn't mind? I'm open to the possibility if the evidence of that showed, as I'm guided by reason and not my fragile emotions, but I haven't been convinced yet that there are. What I am supporting though is having reasonable discussions and exchanges about it without reflexive crying of 'racism!' 'liar!' 'blah blah!'

Unfortunetly you just prove the point

Why do you discount that there have been countless studies on it and not a single one says that there is, you support "reasonable discussion" OK Dave Rubin, except it has been had, again, countless fornicating times, and the evidence has always, ALWAYS pointed against it, you talk about peoples emotional responses, I wonder why you, a man of reason and logic, does not accept that it has been disproven time, and time, and time, and time, and time again. Why are you "open to it" when it has been proven to be bollocks??? Maybe want to look at your own emotional biases yourself son

Yeah, I bet you're open to it, now show me some actual, proper, evidence that it's true, please

you amuse me little man, please stop ego stroking yourself, you are pitiful at most mate. My emotions are nothing to do with it, the evidence based fact is, I thought you guys were all about the facts and the logic? Why do you deny what has been proven over...and over...and over...and over...and over...and over again?? It doesn't make me emotional to argue with the likes of you, just makes me feel like im doing this but I think your agenda has been exposed and I don't think I wish to embarrass you any further, unless you warrant it

Only someone driven by their fragile emotions would just immediately close themselves off and not be open to something or willing to change their views if the evidence gave reason to be. Being rationale involves that instead of throwing a temper tantrum and throwing around the same old tired cries of racism. Of course I'll consider evidence presented and not be an emotional baby about it. One thing I'll give you, you sure excel in that later role, and at missing the fine points

Of course, athletic differences are all good though right, case in point provided by the almost genius

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 19:12 Only someone driven by their fragile emotions would just immediately close themselves off and not be open to something or willing to change their views if the evidence gave reason to be.

I'll just leave this here... seriously mate, DOZENS of studies, not a single one that backs up your case

Why are you so willing for "discussion" yet not willing to admit you are wrong despite the overwhelming evidence against your position? Sounds like an agenda to me, shall we have an open discussion as to why the sky the blue during the day and pink at sunset despite the fact that we know exactly why this is the case?? Why the fornicate should we discuss it? It's been scientifically proven


From what I've seen in this thread, I havn't seen any evidence that physiological differences make one nation or race better than another at any particular sport, it's more about what is pushed on them from a young age, the New Zealand rugby team being the best example, of course, I'm open to you showing me a study that refutes this..shall I hold my breath? Why do you keep talking about emotion? DOZENS, DOZENS, DOZENS, EVERY SINGLE STUDY proves you wrong mate, every single one, you cannot name one that proves you right.

Are Cubans just so genetically gifted that they become the best amateurs? Why them and not other hispanic nations? Why has Ireland always had a great national amateur team? Genetics?? Or because we have a great amateur boxing program?

Could have swore I saw Scotland thrash Samoa 34-0 today in the rugby, despite the fact Samoans are "genetically" big strong uber ultra supermen and Scots are skinny little buckfast drinking runts

You're like your fella Ben Shapiro :"Everything should be dictated by logic and not feelings"

Decent person :"Israel should stop murdering innocent people by the thousands"

Shapiro: "ANTI-SEMITISM!! Why do you hate JEWS so much??!!??!"

GreenLightning wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 20:43

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 19:12 Only someone driven by their fragile emotions would just immediately close themselves off and not be open to something or willing to change their views if the evidence gave reason to be.

I'll just leave this here... seriously mate, DOZENS of studies, not a single one that backs up your case

Why are you so willing for "discussion" yet not willing to admit you are wrong despite the overwhelming evidence against your position? Sounds like an agenda to me, shall we have an open discussion as to why the sky the blue during the day and pink at sunset despite the fact that we know exactly why this is the case?? Why the fornicate should we discuss it? It's been scientifically proven


From what I've seen in this thread, I havn't seen any evidence that physiological differences make one nation or race better than another at any particular sport, it's more about what is pushed on them from a young age, the New Zealand rugby team being the best example, of course, I'm open to you showing me a study that refutes this..shall I hold my breath? Why do you keep talking about emotion? DOZENS, DOZENS, DOZENS, EVERY SINGLE STUDY proves you wrong mate, every single one, you cannot name one that proves you right.

Are Cubans just so genetically gifted that they become the best amateurs? Why them and not other hispanic nations? Why has Ireland always had a great national amateur team? Genetics?? Or because we have a great amateur boxing program?


You're like your fella Ben Shapiro :"Everything should be dictated by logic and not feelings"

Decent person :"Israel should stop murdering innocent people by the thousands"

Shapiro: "ANTI-SEMITISM!! Why do you hate JEWS so much??!!??!"

My case is that:

-racial differences in performance on tests of thought differ, which you admit
-discussion of the issue and the causes of these results, no matter what they may be, should be open and free
-people go all snowflake on the issue though, throwing around 'racism!' , even when they seemingly don't care about physical differences , shown very well by this thread

And note that I have never once said there is an innate difference, or that one race is naturally more intelligent than others, so your snowflaking is in fact a bit bizarre. You clearly for whatever reasons you may have are triggered simply by the issue being raised, and that's caused you to totally just fling a bunch of stuff that is nonsense and hasn't been claimed etc. In one sentence you'll call me a liar for saying there are differences, and then the next you'll say that there are in fact differences that you then try to explain

I certainly haven't called anyone here anti-semetic or racist or anything of the sort, you though frost of course immediately start out with 'liar!' 'racist!' , obviously a man of emotion

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 20:49

GreenLightning wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 20:43

I'll just leave this here... seriously mate, DOZENS of studies, not a single one that backs up your case

Why are you so willing for "discussion" yet not willing to admit you are wrong despite the overwhelming evidence against your position? Sounds like an agenda to me, shall we have an open discussion as to why the sky the blue during the day and pink at sunset despite the fact that we know exactly why this is the case?? Why the fornicate should we discuss it? It's been scientifically proven


From what I've seen in this thread, I havn't seen any evidence that physiological differences make one nation or race better than another at any particular sport, it's more about what is pushed on them from a young age, the New Zealand rugby team being the best example, of course, I'm open to you showing me a study that refutes this..shall I hold my breath? Why do you keep talking about emotion? DOZENS, DOZENS, DOZENS, EVERY SINGLE STUDY proves you wrong mate, every single one, you cannot name one that proves you right.

Are Cubans just so genetically gifted that they become the best amateurs? Why them and not other hispanic nations? Why has Ireland always had a great national amateur team? Genetics?? Or because we have a great amateur boxing program?


You're like your fella Ben Shapiro :"Everything should be dictated by logic and not feelings"

Decent person :"Israel should stop murdering innocent people by the thousands"

Shapiro: "ANTI-SEMITISM!! Why do you hate JEWS so much??!!??!"

My case is that:

-racial differences in performance on tests of thought differ, which you admit
-discussion of the issue and the causes of these results, no matter what they may be, should be open and free
-people go all snowflake on the issue though, throwing around 'racism!' , even when they seemingly don't care about physical differences

And note that I have never once said there is an innate difference, or that one race is naturally more intelligent than others, so your snowflaking is in fact a bit bizarre. You clearly have been triggered simply by the issue being raised, and that's caused you to totally just fling a bunch of stuff that is nonsense and hasn't been claimed etc

I certainly haven't called anyone here anti-semetic or racist or anything of the sort, you though frost of course immediately start out with 'liar!' 'racist!' , obviously a man of emotion

NO! for the last time, it's not "open and free" it is irrefutably proven to be the opposite of what you say..SCIENCE..LOGIC..REASON the shit you say you value more than anything..irrefutably, we are about 50 posts between us on this topic and you havn't posted any evidence to support your case at all

I have, you called me a liar for example apparently because I couldn't show that differences in cognitive performance exist, yet then when I mention them you say you aren't denying that there are racial differences in the results of performances on mental tests and tests of cognition, which you then try to give explanation for. The near genius can't even follow his own posts

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Sep 2019, 20:54 I have, you called me a liar for example apparently because I couldn't show that differences in cognitive performance exist, yet then you say you aren't denying that there are racial differences on mental tests and tests of cognition. The near genius can't even follow his own posts

BECAUSE THE RESULTS OF THOSE TESTS AREN'T BASED ON ACTUAL CORRELATION BETWEEN RACE AND COGNITIVE ABILITY

Mate, please, just read the study I posted, you obviously havn't bothered, I thought you wouldn't, that's why I pasted the conclusion, you are a lazy troll who wants to claim shit without actually doing the research to prove it. I don;t blame you, there is no research out there that backs up your position at all.

And you call me a man of emotion... I almost feel sorry for you son

Can I suggest you throw in the towel because I feel like I'm beating the fornicate out of an overmatched opponent who can't fight back but just will not go down, I feel bad man, just yield, and think on how you were made a fool of today

LOL, so you are simply trying to say those differences in performance between racial groups is due to socioeconomic factors, which you as a near genius should know affirms that the difference actually exists. And you have already said you aren't denying it

If the near genius could actually understand my posts too, you'd know that I've said that the differences in result may well be down to socioeconomic factors you've mentioned. It is quite fasicniating that someone apparently so intelligent repeatedly fails to show even basic comprehension